Get Rid of that Measle Ball!

JoeyInCali said:
It was made for freaking 3-cushion.
Not pool.
It plays frkn heavy and is annoying.

Red circle any day.
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I completely agree, it plays terrible. Get rid of it.

While we're at it can we get rid of rotation games and get back to one pocket and straight pool? I mean if we really wanna make things right. :thumbup:
 
Everyone says it's the same as the red circle but as someone who has played for 25 years and plays every day. i can't agree. It always takes me some adjustment to play with it. I don't know why but it reacts differently. My senses don't lie lol
 
Been playing with the pro cup balls for tournament play for all of this season now. They play completely differently.

That of course can be overcome but the reality is that in the "real world" the more traditional balls are still in use, meaning that practise is affected.

If I play with a practise partner unused to the pro cups, it is not valid practise as the other player is affected by the change in conditions. If I practise with the more traditional balls, my form is affected when playing tournaments.

As for the measles white, it serves no purpose for me whatsoever. It appears to serve little purpose for the TV either. Snooker seems to manage perfectly well without it.
 
I really dont know whats all the fuss with the Measle ball. I been playing with a set of TV Pro Cup since January. I have not clean any of the balls yet at all and my cue ball is still clean. No chalk on it.

Sometimes I might see a little spot with chalk on it from the shot I just took last, but it cleans out on its own on the felt I guess. Is not like is stuck to it. I do clean my felt once a month and shoot on it every day. The Measle I play with weights exactly like the rest of the object balls. Plays perfect and no problem with drawing!

When I play out of my house I never see a Measle ball and have no problem playing with a different cue ball and table. The only time I feel a difference is when I play on a barbox and those heavy low action cue balls.

I use master chalk may be thats why. Or maybe some of you guys like playing with a cue ball thats lighter than the object balls. Red Circle is lighter than object balls and therefore lighter than Measle.

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/balls.html#cue_ball_types
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=77517&page=5
 
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DogsPlayingPool said:
The measles ball is different from the red dot because they are made with different resins and go with different sets at different price points. The measles ball is a better ball, made with the Super Aramith Pro resin and is matched to the Super Aramith Pro Cup set. The red dot is a made with the cheaper Premier resin and goes with the Aramith Premier set.

The cue ball equivalent to the measles ball is the red logo ball. This is the ball that goes with the Super Aramith Pro set and is the same ball as the measles ball except for the graphics. The other ball that is identical and would make a good substitute would be (and here's where I don't get your Brunswick Cents joke) would be the Blue Circle ball, the one that comes with the Brunswick Centennials.

The Red Circle ball is Aramith;s generic cue ball, often used as a replacement. Unlike the three balls mentioned made with the Super Aramith Pro resin, it is made with the Super Aramith resein (not the Super Aramith PRO resin). It does not come standard with any ball set Aramith makes.

And yes, the above information is straight from Aramith.

As for weighing different cue balls, it largely means nothing. All Aramith balls are regulation - between 5.5 and 6.0 oz. The better sets are matched (Super Pros, Tournaments, and Centennials), meaning all the balls in the set are matched at the factory for weight, size, and color. But once you replace the cue ball, even with an identical model, all bets are off because it wasn't matched at the factory to the other balls. This is why any discussion of the measles playing different than the red logo or blue circle is usually meaningless. Even in a matched set, over time the balls will begin to vary in weight, usually with the cue ball being lighter than the others. So it doesn't matter if a particular Blue Circle weighs more or less than a given Measles ball. What matters most in how it plays (assuming the same resin as the object balls) is whether the CB is heavier, lighter, or the same as the object balls in the set.
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Best post in the thread.

The red circle cue ball is terrible. Usually the people that like them are the ones that don't have much of a stroke. The cue ball should always weigh the same as the rest of the set and be made from the same resin.

If you don't like the measle cue ball then use the one with the small logo instead.

The premier Aramith sets made with Duramith technology seem to stay cleaner as well.
 
alrighty... I am going to throw a wrench into this thread :D

I was in complete agreement about the measle ball in both regards (don't like how it plays, and it is a chalk magnet).

So I retired my measle ball and bought a couple of red circles (that play wonderful for me), and I rotate them weekly (wash full set, and both cueballs every two weeks, use one CB for one week, and then the 2nd the second week... because I'm lazy and don't want to wash them all weekly LOL).

ANYWAY... what I discovered, COMPLETELY by mistake, is the fact that your TIP makes a HUGE difference in the cleanliness of your CB. I have been a huge advocate for pressed triangles for quite a while (and I still believe, that when you have a good one, there isn't a med/hard tip that transfers spin as well as a pressed triangle), I had a new shaft made, and decided to try out some of the UltraSkin's that I had laying around.
ALSO a great tip (just wish I had ordered the hard instead of the med)

what I discovered, when I went to the Ultraskin, was that my cueball was HANDS DOWN... MUCH MUCH MUCH cleaner.
I didn't change chalk, I didn't change cleaning cycle, or product... the only thing that changed was the tip.
Some food for thought, that if you are plagued by dirty CB's... you might consider trying a different TIP

but in closing... I have to say that after spending several hours playing with a CYCLOP set... nothing stays cleaner than the CYCLOP CB... period.
If you can get used to the minor amount of translucency of the CB, it is a PHENOMINAL set!!!
 
It's so easy to develop incorrect perceptions about these kinds of things, and it doesn't really make sense why the measles ball would attract more chalk, that I'd really have to see it tested more systematically before I'd believe it. "This is how I feel so ban it" just isn't good enough.
 
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Fast Lenny said:
After watching Karl Boyes have cue ball cleaned nearly every rack and sometimes twice. I have watched a bunch of the matches the past few days from the World 9 Ball Championships and if you added all the cue ball cleaning during all the others it would not even come close. Lets just say he lost some fans, probably a few hundred easily.

Here is my solution for them to stop using this stupid training ball in pro events, it grabs chalk more then any other cue ball. Not sure why people are playing with this ball that was just used on ESPN to show spin to viewers many years ago but everyone jumped on it. It is time a cue ball is made that has a coating that resist holding chalk better without spots all over it, it is diseased! Players should demand that and the masses will buy that cue ball because it will be the best, a no or lower skid cue ball that has higher resistance to chalk. There could be more chalk sticking with the new chalks that are supposed to stick to your tip better but that also means more on the cue ball. There is no guarantees because skids are not always caused by the chalk and a bad stroke I believe.

You can send me a royalty check or thank me when it comes out. Leave the measle ball to ESPN, pool instructors and the carnival gaff pool tables.
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Never been a fan of the ball since it came out.:frown:
 
The measles ball is my cue ball of choice. I also never noticed it collects more chalk than other cue balls. Easy fix. Just rub it on the rail between games. Takes a coupe seconds. Maybe cleaning the table might help also.
 
People say the measel ball is heavier but I have heard the weight is the same as the red circle and red Aramith logo cue balls. :cool:
 
I've compared the measles to the Cyclops and the Cyclops wins hands down. After about a half hour of play the measles ball is just covered with blue dots and there's nothing on the Cyclops

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Finally an intelligent post based on fact. Thanks for the info.

I have the Super Aramith Pro Cup set and prefer the measles ball.



DogsPlayingPool said:
The measles ball is different from the red dot because they are made with different resins and go with different sets at different price points. The measles ball is a better ball, made with the Super Aramith Pro resin and is matched to the Super Aramith Pro Cup set. The red dot is a made with the cheaper Premier resin and goes with the Aramith Premier set.

The cue ball equivalent to the measles ball is the red logo ball. This is the ball that goes with the Super Aramith Pro set and is the same ball as the measles ball except for the graphics. The other ball that is identical and would make a good substitute would be (and here's where I don't get your Brunswick Cents joke) would be the Blue Circle ball, the one that comes with the Brunswick Centennials.

The Red Circle ball is Aramith;s generic cue ball, often used as a replacement. Unlike the three balls mentioned made with the Super Aramith Pro resin, it is made with the Super Aramith resein (not the Super Aramith PRO resin). It does not come standard with any ball set Aramith makes.

And yes, the above information is straight from Aramith.

As for weighing different cue balls, it largely means nothing. All Aramith balls are regulation - between 5.5 and 6.0 oz. The better sets are matched (Super Pros, Tournaments, and Centennials), meaning all the balls in the set are matched at the factory for weight, size, and color. But once you replace the cue ball, even with an identical model, all bets are off because it wasn't matched at the factory to the other balls. This is why any discussion of the measles playing different than the red logo or blue circle is usually meaningless. Even in a matched set, over time the balls will begin to vary in weight, usually with the cue ball being lighter than the others. So it doesn't matter if a particular Blue Circle weighs more or less than a given Measles ball. What matters most in how it plays (assuming the same resin as the object balls) is whether the CB is heavier, lighter, or the same as the object balls in the set.
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cleary said:
I prefer the measle ball to other cueballs personally.
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I, as well, prefer the measle ball.

It's been argued time and time again, that the red dot and the measle ball are the same weight. I believe the newer balls are the same weight. I also believe they play slightly different, in the fact that they may be different resins.

All in all, the cue ball is used by both players, so there is no advantage or disadvantage. The table, pocket size, cloth, humidity, rails, etc; all play a part in the difficulty of the game, not just a cue ball.
 
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