I've hit a baseball. I've run a marathon. 26.2 is harder, no comparison.
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I've hit a baseball. I've run a marathon. 26.2 is harder, no comparison.
Most LD shafts have a much longer pivot point then standard maple shafts. The pivot on my 314 is around 12 inches. The longer bridge is a "helping hand" on LD shafts.
TheThaiger
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Wrong. This forum languishes because of dullards, Bruce.
I only stalk gobshites and bullshitters. Talking of which, shouldn't you be telling us how brilliant you are? Haven't seen anything like that from you for, oh, at least 5 minutes.
Still, congrats on finally working out how to use the signature function. Constantly writing about chicken must have been as tiresome to write as it was to read.
Ready for a permanent ban?
You are wrong here! you are mixing aim between no english and with english, tip vs CB-OB aiming.
Ill clarify what I meant. The original post I was referring to, said some people had a hard time using LD shafts(post #5). It is my opinion that far too many people are using too short a bridge for these shafts. I find my 314 more accurate for me when using side english if I lengthen the bridge.
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I get what you meant. If you can find a cue with a pivot length the same as your natural bridge length you will stand a greater chance of making balls if you apply unintentional side spin.
This is very important to know when shopping for a break cue. You don't want a break cue that has the least deflection, instead you want a break cue that has a pivot length that is comfortable to bridge from when breaking. If you can find one, then your breaking will improve and you'll get cleaner hits on the head ball when you deviate from the vertical axis by accident. I believe the break is the most important shot in rotation games, so everyone should find the pivot point of their particular break cue.
Yes, yes, yes, and yes again!!!
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As far as stroke is concerned, everything before the final stroke
is just pre-shot routine imo. Look at Mike Davis for example, he
has one of the most disturbing strokes I've ever seen from a player on
his level.
What he does before the final stroke looks brutal till the last one
where he comes straight through the CB and runs out. I remember
seeing him play years ago thinking '' how the hell does this guy run out''.
Not until I really watched him carefully could see the final swing was
straight and clean.
is just pre-shot routine imo. Look at Mike Davis for example, he
has one of the most disturbing strokes I've ever seen from a player on
his level.
What he does before the final stroke looks brutal till the last one
where he comes straight through the CB and runs out. I remember
seeing him play years ago thinking '' how the hell does this guy run out''.
Not until I really watched him carefully could see the final swing was
straight and clean.
I hear you. This topic is hard to explain in writing. Maybe one day we meet, who knows.
Thanks.
With all due respect to John, I built my bridge length from Mosconi's little red book and Willie could play a little:wink: I don't remember ever having a problem getting around the table, even on a ten footer. I've used a six to eight inch bridge, occasionally going to, maybe, ten inches. I remember seeing Luther "Wimpy" Lassiter for the first and only time in 1985 and thought at the time that he had a longer bridge than most players at that time. I don't remember a lot of players using a long bridge before the arrival of Efren, Busty, and the rest of the Philippino crowd. I think lots of people copied what they did because it worked so well for them and they wanted to emulate them. Nobody will deny that Allan Hopkins' short stroke worked great for him for many years. I don't remember off hand the length of Hopkins' bridge. I think that, like many other things, bridge length is a personal choice. I was born with very short arms, hence my rather short stroke and maybe also my choice of a shorter bridge than most. No matter the length of a player's bridge, the important thing is to follow through on the shot.
Just my two cents, to which I'm entitled, it's my birthday
Just my two cents, to which I'm entitled, it's my birthday
Here is a thread where one of the greatest bank pool players to draw a breath gives advice to internet tough guys, and the internet tough guys tell the bank pool champion that he is wrong.
If you think Mr. Brumback is in error here, simply empty your retirement account, go to the 2015 DCC, and match up a bank pool game with your $500.00.
I just got back from the tournament in Olathe, KS. And basically to a man, every super high level player there held the cue towards the very back, and had a relatively long bridge. Mr. Brumback is giving out great advice to those who aspire to play pool at a high level.
I for one, eagerly await all of Mr. Brumback's "Tips from a Pro", and I take them to heart. I have already improved my game with his last one.
So I would like to thank Mr. Brumback for putting his knowledge out there, and I hope he continues to do it, as I value it immensely.
kollegedave
Here is a thread where one of the greatest bank pool players to draw a breath gives advice to internet tough guys, and the internet tough guys tell the bank pool champion that he is wrong.
If you think Mr. Brumback is in error here, simply empty your retirement account, go to the 2015 DCC, and match up a bank pool game with your $500.00.
I just got back from the tournament in Olathe, KS. And basically to a man, every super high level player there held the cue towards the very back, and had a relatively long bridge. Mr. Brumback is giving out great advice to those who aspire to play pool at a high level.
I for one, eagerly await all of Mr. Brumback's "Tips from a Pro", and I take them to heart. I have already improved my game with his last one.
So I would like to thank Mr. Brumback for putting his knowledge out there, and I hope he continues to do it, as I value it immensely.
kollegedave
but...but..., Dave, what if Wille Mosconi came back from the dead (or you just read in one of his books) that the key to pool was 1.) a grip 3-6" behind your cue's balance point and 2.) a bridge no more that 8" in length?
Lou Figueroa
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Depends on personal preference and shot requirements, too short or too long could lead to bad results, too short usually to a "half stroke" and too long usually to a missed target point.
Delicate balance always is the key.
Petros
Delicate balance always is the key.
Petros
Sorry Petros, i can challenge what you saying. But in a different post, maybe later.
Please remember I'm just offering my thoughts on my personal experience, which could never include every kind of approach.
Never hurts to see a different opinion, I'd be interested to see any further comments when possible.
Thanks for the reply.
Petros
I question anyone's ability to teach without taking the shot at hand in concerning how to do something.
Blanket, general statements as the above do more harm than good.
How can you have a long bridge jacked up shooting over a ball right next to th CB?
The cue motion has nothing to do with the bridge but your arm movement. Its about how well you can stroke. If you can onlybusevone type of stroke movement, you ate limiting yourself.
What about having to use the rail for a bridge at times and the CB is say 1/8 away from it.
Mosconi
This is just my opinion or observation here after reading Wilson's book (and having it help me immensely), seeing Olathe champions like Skyler Woodward and Joey Gray, and hearing the recent tip from our esteemed pro Mr. John Brumback: the majority of modern pros have longer bridges and they hold the cue at the very back. To me this is simply an observation that matches (sort of) the tip Mr. Brumback was providing the unwashed hoards in this thread.
I think it is possible for Mosconi, however well intentioned in his book, to be more of an exception and less of a rule. I don't feel like I play enough to be an exception.
It seems to me that those super old timers like Mosconi, Balsis, Crane, etc. all played with a more upright stance on slower tables with huge pockets, and in attire that was much more formal than what is customary today. Perhaps their environment and customs rewarded this upright stance, smaller bridge, and shorter grip?
In the last few weeks my straight pool runs have increased dramatically in high run and average run. I am having success with an approach that matches a more modern model of player.
Once I finished writing this, I realized I didn't press the reply button to lfigueroa's post. My post here was meant as a reply to lfigueroa's post.
kollegedave
This is just my opinion or observation here after reading Wilson's book (and having it help me immensely), seeing Olathe champions like Skyler Woodward and Joey Gray, and hearing the recent tip from our esteemed pro Mr. John Brumback: the majority of modern pros have longer bridges and they hold the cue at the very back. To me this is simply an observation that matches (sort of) the tip Mr. Brumback was providing the unwashed hoards in this thread.
I think it is possible for Mosconi, however well intentioned in his book, to be more of an exception and less of a rule. I don't feel like I play enough to be an exception.
It seems to me that those super old timers like Mosconi, Balsis, Crane, etc. all played with a more upright stance on slower tables with huge pockets, and in attire that was much more formal than what is customary today. Perhaps their environment and customs rewarded this upright stance, smaller bridge, and shorter grip?
In the last few weeks my straight pool runs have increased dramatically in high run and average run. I am having success with an approach that matches a more modern model of player.
Once I finished writing this, I realized I didn't press the reply button to lfigueroa's post. My post here was meant as a reply to lfigueroa's post.
kollegedave
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