Kamui ~ Step to how to install clear tip.

I got my Japanese hand tools and some new Navigator tips from Japan.
Very sharp knives! so I`m pretty cautious when using them. Took some figuring out what works best, but I found a technique that worked for me.
This is the result:
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100% Rack.

As a side, after I had a rather bad experience with our local billiard shop, that prompted me to delve into hand tipping. Over a period of a year of a year or so, I must have purchased every tip tool and Doo Dad available in the market place.

This was both bad and good. Bad in that I bought a lot of unnecessary tip tools and good, in the way of I was able to figure out that the KISS Method is the best.

With a sharp knife or cutter, and a couple of other inexpensive tools, and a few mistakes, anyone can learn to do a tip as well as the guy in the video or Kim has done.
Honestly, even with a Hightower Deluxe now, I am hard pressed to do better than what Kim did. Only difference might be that I can do it quicker with a lathe.

When you're talking lathes and tools or just hand tools in general, you get what you pay for and should never cheap out.

When hand tipping, you absolutely do not need to spend much more than 50 bucks at the most to do a decent job. Keep in mind that one of the most expensive tools that you will need is the Cue Top Sander. Everything else is well under a 20 dollar bill.

Obviously, the installer in the video doesn't use one but chances are, you will.

BTW, at this moment in time, I am not so sure that I am the person to be using any sharp tools. My wife bought me a huge roast today so I can make beef jerky. After the roast had been in the freezer a bit, I proceeded to trim some of the fat off the top.

Well, I got a piece of frozen fat, cutting towards myself, the fat balked, the knife slipped and I bled like a stuck pig for about 20 minutes.

The good part is, CA glue also works wonderful for closing wounds. A little deeper and I would have been getting out the sewing kit.
Amazing that I didn't waken the War Dept. when I said the Eff word really loud.

What tools do you use?
 
I got my Japanese hand tools and some new Navigator tips from Japan.
Very sharp knives! so I`m pretty cautious when using them. Took some figuring out what works best, but I found a technique that worked for me.
This is the result:

I'm wondering how much did you pay for your Navigator tips. :grin:
 
Has anyone tried installing their Kamui Black tip using this method? If so, please post your thoughts on it! I'm thinking of purchasing the items individually. I also read that this method doesn't work well with phenolic/break tips, will Kamui Black Hard be okay with it?

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhU0lYPEGKc

Kit:
http://www.seyberts.com/products/Deluxe_Tip_Replacement_Kit-984-277.html

For phenolic if you do not have a lathe, just use a chisel.
 
That Porper shaver is not the best tool for installing a tip, believe me I have tried...
 
That Porper shaver is not the best tool for installing a tip, believe me I have tried...

The big shaver works just fine, but the blade needs to be sharp. If its not you might as well be using a butter knife. And a "new" blade isnt necessarily a sharp blade.
Chuck
 
Sorry, mistake from my side, I wasn't able to watch the video that was behind the question.

My below answer refers to THAT video from 1st question when thread was starting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0TKkgHfL4s#t=103

Other methods "by hand" I do not recommend.

Installing a Kamui hard with this method is absolutely no problem!

Installing a breaktip principally works also, but the hardness of knive's steel must be high quality + your personal skills also --> better you do not try if not yet done.
 
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Has anyone tried installing their Kamui Black tip using this method? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhU0lYPEGKc
If so, please post your thoughts on it! I'm thinking of purchasing the items individually. I also read that this method doesn't work well with phenolic/break tips, will Kamui Black Hard be okay with it?

Kit:
http://www.seyberts.com/products/Deluxe_Tip_Replacement_Kit-984-277.html


Oh man, right now I've watched the video, what a KLUDGE !!! A violation pf tip and ferrule! Uuuuuaaaaaahhhhhhh
 
Wrong is nothing, you can do it of course like in the video where the guy uses the porper tool. But I bet the surface of the ferrule is not plane after sanding, and probably the tip also not. Then there is no protection tape to avoid glue getting in contact to the ferrule. Trimming the sides is too rough, and even when I install a tip by hand I do not have to sand the ferrule. So, of course you can do like this, but to me it is to rough, this is why I called it a violation. ;-)
 
Great job Kim. What is that round thing? Looks like crepe or an eraser, perhaps?

What tools do you use?

Before I got a lathe, I went stupid, bought and experimented with many tools no matter
what the cost.

I finally found the easiest way for myself was the same as in the video.
I would put the tip down against a cutting board. I used a very sharp knife to take the edges down with around the tip.

Wish that I would have seen the Japanese tools before that.

Once trimmed. I used either or both, the Porper Little Shaver to further trim the tip. Keep in mind that the Little Shaver is also a handy tool for Mushrooms.

And or, the Mushroom Grazer as in Seybert's video. That particular tool has a screw on the end so you can adjust the depth of the blade so it won't come in contact with the ferrule. Great idea, don't ya think.

The Black Porper tool also in the video. One has to be careful to the angle that you put the tip in as if it isn't proper, you will end up with a Cone Shaped tip.

The Nickel Shaper on the other end of the tool does a 100% job as well.

So:
Cue Top Sander.
Glue, preferably Loc Tite.
Box Cutter with a new sharp blade.
Porper Mushroom Grazer and whatever that other cylindrical black tool is called.
Sand paper
A piece of leather to burnish and a bit of Spit.
Low tack tape to tape the ferrule off with. Painters tape works ok.
BTW, Acetone is an option if you glue fingers together as I do on occasion.

So yes, a person can have all of that for hopefully around or under the 50 dollar mark.

No need to buy the most expensive tools available unless you really want to.

If I was still hand tipping, I would buy the same 2 tools as what Kim did and call it a day.
 
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