I think it is time for Poolplaya9 to turn in his badge, because no true devotee of Smorg would smear a good man like this.
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I think it is time for Poolplaya9 to turn in his badge, because no true devotee of Smorg would smear a good man like this.
KK, let's give him an hour to answer that one ;-)
http://www.americanbilliardradio.com/
Lou Figueroa
might as well
give him the link
too
lmao. If he doesn't post for an hour it's overwhelming evidence that ... he's washing his car.
WWED - What would Einstein do?
Probably go sit in a secluded area and work math problems.
It is advertisement. Still some of you FAIL to realize that an actual person or people are on the other side of your defamation.
CSI got plenty of (AZ) publicity with 37 threads about it, in the end they were vindicated as expected, it was but a teeny blip in the teeny world of pool, and some folks here got to get their rocks off predicting the demise of civilization with Mark as the anti-Christ leading the destruction.
What you would do is completely inconsequential as you are and will likely remain a "super nobody" in the pool world. Mark owes you no explanation at all. You probably didn't even buy the PPV which makes your opinion even more worthless. Those that did buy the PPV were treated to another world class match.
I mean it's cool that you give your opinion - the collective AZ brain trust is still a good resource for those in the business to draw on, but individual cells, like you, don't always realize that you are going way beyond your opinion and into defamation with your accusations. Not referring to this incident or anything you have said as I didn't bother to read most of it. Just pointing out that people who sit on their asses and contribute NOTHING to the pool world should consider perhaps giving those who do some well earned respect. Even Stu was careful to acknowledge Mark's contributions RESPECTFULLY while disagreeing with the decision.
But hey, all of us in the business know full well that today's world is one where everyone has the ability to put their opinions out there and find resonance. We know that some people will defame blithely and some maliciously. We are coming to terms with it.
We also understand that acknowledging those "trolls" only feeds them. It's like Bill Gates popping into a forum to address criticism. Trolls feel vindicated when they get a direct response from a giant. It's the best ego-boost on the planet for a nobody to write something that gets attention from a somebody. And unfortunately it's easier to wound (and thus get attention) with the tiny needles of speculative defamatory criticism than to get the requisite attention with the positive reinforcement of constructive dialog.
Mark is a person. He has feelings. Ozzy is a person, he has feelings. They worked their asses off to bring together a major event and yet because of one small issue some of you, with you as one of the main antagonists, have had a great week knocking them and their staff as if they are terrible people unfit to run an ice cream stand, from the little I have read among the 45 threads on this subject.
How about saying thank you to Mark and Ozzy and all the staff for keeping pool alive. Thanks to Justin and the crew he ran filming dozens of matches and all the support people and the refs who worked for free? How about making a thread about that?
Can't do it can you? Because drama sells more than kudos.
What would explain it is that someone was asking Mark about the decision, and Mark gave his reasoning. That's all.
I don't understand why that's so problematic to you. There were two choices for them. Someone asked why they didn't give a bye, and they explained why they didn't. It doesn't at all mean they changed their mind. It just means that they thought through some of the pros and cons of the two choices.
I listened, and I used the term bye because it was the correct term. They used the term in the exact same way as well.
Person A) Ralf is leaving, what should we do?
Person B) well, since someone has to advance from each group, and Shane has the next highest number of wins, Shane will take his place.
Person A) ok, cool, but Ko doesn't agree. He believes a bye is called for.
Person B) well, a bye is not consistent with the structure of this event as we have set it up. And besides, it would give the viewers one less match to view. No, we can't give him a bye .
Easy to explain. Easy (for most ) to understand.
Give me a break, I haven't smeared Mark. In fact my posts in this thread and on this topic have been far more supportive of Mark than anything. I said the evidence looks as if they were initially going to use one format, and then decided to use another. That is a true statement. I also said that their version of what then did, how and when, might be exactly how it actually went down. That is also a true statement. I also said a ton of other generally supportive stuff, and was respectful throughout.
there are now 70+/- threads on the BCA events, i'm not looking them up for you. your sources are:
LouF - talked to MG & said so
sjm - talked to MG & said so
pinklady - talked to MG & said so
MG - said so
perhaps KO was running around willy-nilly celebrating that he won by forfeit, which led to the conversation?
For most....:shrug:
takeitdown
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Ain't it sad how everyone in this country thinks they are a lawyer? Look if your decision discredits the sport and unfairly punishes a player then it's wrong. So just say you made a mistake WHICH HE DID and let's end this. There is nothing to be gained by debating this anymore...
JB your as big as troll as anybody and you routinely use this forum to bash your competitors aren't you the leading person on the banned list so I don't know what world you live in
I didn't start any of these several threads and since this was left to be the information chain and there was a lack of transparency from CSI this is what you end up with and it was predictable as the sun rise ,,, even though I'm a pool nobody I'm surely smart enough to know that
So you can either do something about it or live with it plain and simple ,,because it's never changing
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Nope pal, I am not a troll at all. I only respond. I don't bait.
I didn't say you started the threads but you are certainly one of the posters with a continued hard-on for Mark and CSI. CSI OWES you no transparency at all. NONE. You are not owed any sort of explanation in any degree about any decision they have made.
So while you didn't "start" any of the threads you sure added your opinion plenty of times to keep it going.
Oh, as for bashing my competitors routinely.......hardly. I respond to particular claims and make factual comparisons when warranted. What I do routinely however is to compliment my colleagues on their outstanding work when I am moved by that work. But then you don't notice the positive and revel in the negative so I wouldn't expect you to notice that or admit it if you did.
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The above comes from a different thread and says exactly the same thing I am trying to say but perhaps in a way that more people will get. Maybe my use of "changed your mind" caused confusion because you could read into that a connotation that it was an intentional change, but my point wasn't based on whether it was intentional or not. As Celtic says, there is an appearance that until after Ralf had left there was at least one person at CSI that thought Ko was getting a bye into the finals before they ultimately got on the page where they were operating under the format where there would be no bye. This is the change from one format to the other that I was referring to. It may have not been company wide, and it may not have been intended, but it appears that at least a portion of CSI personnel had to make a change in the format they were operating under.
Baloney.
They explained, repeatedly, how there could be no "bye" in an event in which the format dictated that one player advance from each group.
Lou Figueroa
It was a mistake that Mark owned up to on the stream.
Clearly, with a new format, Ralf bailing at the last second, him demanding immediate payment, and the coinciding problems in the other tournaments that also required immediate attention, it is completely understandable how it could happen... unless you are into conspiracy theories and just want to smear Mark.
Lou Figueroa
You don't bait that's laughable ,,, and yes JB I have seen your positive quotes too ,,
Your right they don't owe me anything nor do I owe them ,,,
However again this is a chat room where people are expressing their opinions some good some bad I really don't see what the big deal is ,,
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