Shane's racking "trick"

That's what I've been told by a few pros as well. It seems it's the "loser racks" rules that causes most of the problems. It's a lot easier to rig a slug rack for your opponent than it is to wire certain balls with gaps for yourself. That's the reason why Shane and Jayson decided to play "winner racks" at Turning Stone this year. Too much time cooking too many crooked and slug racks all week long there for my taste.

When Niels can demonstrate how to wire the wing ball every time using strategic gaps and a "chain reaction", I'll believe there's something to it. In the meantime, this is totally unfair to Shane IMO and I'm pretty pissed by all of these accusations myself. I can't imagine what Shane is going through today.

Couldn't agree more! Totally unfair and unprofessional to publicly malign a fellow player while the event is still going on with that player still playing. This was unprofessional and totally out of character for Niels.
 
That's what I've been told by a few pros as well. It seems it's the "loser racks" rules that causes most of the problems. It's a lot easier to rig a slug rack for your opponent than it is to wire certain balls with gaps for yourself. That's the reason why Shane and Jayson decided to play "winner racks" at Turning Stone this year. Too much time cooking too many crooked and slug racks all week long there for my taste.

When Niels can demonstrate how to wire the wing ball every time using strategic gaps and a "chain reaction", I'll believe there's something to it. In the meantime, this is totally unfair to Shane IMO and I'm pretty pissed by all of these accusations myself. I can't imagine what Shane is going through today.

This post is so spot on. Green to you bud
Let's do reach out to Neil's so he can demonstrate . After his accusation he owes that
 
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I interrupt this regularly scheduled program to say that one of this year's U.S. Open players said there is payout drama -- again -- at the Open. Say it isn't so! :eek:

Oh No

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You must be kidding Like this http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=306762 ?
More details please :D
 
Here's a little action smut from my on-site reporters :grin-square:

Robb Saez and Nick the Greek played a race to 25, 10-ball, with Robb getting the 8. Robb drilled him. :eek:

Then they played even, and Robb won that too. :o
 
Here's a little action smut from my on-site reporters :grin-square:

Robb Saez and Nick the Greek played a race to 25, 10-ball, with Robb getting the 8. Robb drilled him. :eek:

Then they played even, and Robb won that too. :o

I heard Robb say that he had an "ah ha" moment for lack of a better term about a year ago. It had to do with keeping his emotions in check instead of letting his anger cripple his game. He has really come into his own
 
Couldn't agree more! Totally unfair and unprofessional to publicly malign a fellow player while the event is still going on with that player still playing. This was unprofessional and totally out of character for Niels.

Absolutely right!

I'm sure that, with few exceptions, we all respect Niels and see him as behaving as professionally as can be.

In July, Ralf Souquet's shocking failure to show up for the CSI 8-ball semifinals against Ko Pin Yi in favor of catching a flight to China was, for many of us, the first time we could recall unprofessional behavior of any kind from Ralf.

In each case, however, a good track record doesn't mean we must condone an isolated act of unprofessional behavior. Niels and Ralf are highly professional ....... usually.
 
Every participant knew the rules and procedures prior to paying their entry fees...just saying...play your match...shake their hand win or lose...shut the hell up...
 
I interrupt this regularly scheduled program to say that one of this year's U.S. Open players said there is payout drama -- again -- at the Open. Say it isn't so! :eek:

Why am i not surprised???

They deserve it!

Tell the players to bend over and take it like a "MAN"

As often as members here have warned about the "Money" I don't want to hear it. Should be "NO COMMENT" from all involved and take what ever he gives you! He is gonna dress them up in panty hose first! LOL

http://youtu.be/4Spy3Nd2D6w


KD
 
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Why am i not surprised???

They deserve it!

Tell the players to bend over and take it like a "MAN"

As often as member here have warned about the "Money" I don't want to hear it. Should be "NO COMMENT" from all involved and take what ever he gives you! He is gonna dress them up in panty hose first! LOL

http://youtu.be/4Spy3Nd2D6w


KD

All the European industry members are now ridiculing American pool because of the problems with the Open. Then the kicker is the Bonus Ball saga. Then there's the IPT. And the beat goes on. We're now and continue to be the laughing stock of the pool world. :frown:

And then there's this.
 

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What amazes me is that Barry knows this before hand and then repeats by
1. Having a great event
2. Getting shitfaced drunk
3. Breaking the news only when it's time to pay
I think 3 has a big effect on 2.
 
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shane made balls on the break against nick during his last match, nick checked every rack...........still made balls so what tricks was he using????
 
What amazes me is that Barry knows this before hand and then repeats by
1. Having a great event
2. Getting shitfaced drunk
3. Breaking the news only when it's time to pay
I think 3 has a big effect on 2.

i just hope "NO ONE" was counting on that money any time soon?

God forbid they have a baby on the way!
God forbid the car needs gas to get back home!
god forbid the motel wants its money!

first player to flip out automatically gets labeled the "bad guy"! People say "How could one of the young players whoop up on old barry like that???" No one likes this stuff. I prefer no open then this mess. But, he thinks otherwise and players keep going for it!

KD
 
He's using the players as his own credit line. Even if/when he does pay up each and every time, how much longer before he doesn't? It can be due to health or any number of reasons. I wouldn't trust him with a dollar.. that is, if I expected to get it back every time.
 
shane made balls on the break against nick during his last match, nick checked every rack...........still made balls so what tricks was he using????

Since he's not able to hear as well as the rest of us, he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more aware of ball movements, and since he practices his break shot More than others, maybe it's time to bar players with such talents and practice routines so others more deserving can win, yeah right....It's pretty sad Ray, especially since I've supported and played in three different pro tours over my lifetime, and worked.... and the whining never stopped, it's difficult to NOT shake my head in disgust....samo/samo needs to disappear. I elect the reservation to take this Bull by wherever its needed, and make change.
 
shane made balls on the break against nick during his last match, nick checked every rack...........still made balls so what tricks was he using????

I would definitely like to hear Nick's comments on what he determined after inspecting Shane's racks. Like I said in an earlier post....I hope this all turns out to be bulls**t! A comment made by someone on Neils' s facebook post was (pparaphrasing here) American players come from a gambling mentality. It bothered me. Its another reason I won't gamble for anything more then a beer. Whether its true or not, that's what Europeans believe..... Americans are a lower form of life and play pool out of a gutter. A lot of it comes from they over estimate their self righteousness but even Americans view pool player that way. That has a lot to do with why this is exploding into a mess. Maybe Shane was doing nothing wrong...maybe he was. Still undetermined.
 
hmm

What I was trying to say was, they are all professionals, and people always look for a excuse when they lose. Some one said svb was fixing the rack? Nick checked every rack so did jay, he still won and still made balls on the break so I don't think trick racking /fixing the rack is why he wins, why can't it be because he practices more than the next guy. They all play under the same rules and within them rules, I guess no matter what rules and wat rack they use and no matter where they rack the 9 someone will always have something negative to say. Invent a table the racks the balls!!! Lol.


QUOTE=Island Drive;4931743]Since he's not able to hear as well as the rest of us, he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more aware of ball movements, and since he practices his break shot More than others, maybe it's time to bar players with such talents and practice routines so others more deserving can win, yeah right....It's pretty sad Ray, especially since I've supported and played in three different pro tours over my lifetime, and worked.... and the whining never stopped, it's difficult to NOT shake my head in disgust....samo/samo needs to disappear. I elect the reservation to take this Bull by wherever its needed, and make change.[/QUOTE]
 
Since he's not able to hear as well as the rest of us, he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more aware of ball movements, and since he practices his break shot More than others, maybe it's time to bar players with such talents and practice routines so others more deserving can win, yeah right....It's pretty sad Ray, especially since I've supported and played in three different pro tours over my lifetime, and worked.... and the whining never stopped, it's difficult to NOT shake my head in disgust....samo/samo needs to disappear. I elect the reservation to take this Bull by wherever its needed, and make change.

What change? I don't think there's anything wrong. There's nothing wrong with other players eyesight its a matter of practice and has always been. You said you worked and played and that doesn't allow for the dedication Shane has. Players don't like to hear this but they are not putting in the time Shane does and the results are telling. The racks not broke its the excuses that are being used
 
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