Both terms can be used for the shot you are describing.
Deflecting the CB off an OB is a billiard or carom.
Deflecting an OB off an OB is a kiss.
Regards,
Dave
Definition of "Billiard Shot" vs "Carom Shot"
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Deflecting the CB off an OB is a billiard or carom.
Deflecting an OB off an OB is a kiss.
Regards,
Dave
Ok guys, let me help you on this confusion.
Carom is a short-version of carambole a/k/a carambole billiards : the game you play with 3 balls on a 9ft or 10ft pocketless table. you make one point when the CB hit both OBs in one stroke.
Anywhere in the world except the US:
Billiards is the general terms for all games you play on a table with balls and sticks.
Billiards = Carambole Billiards + Pocket Billiards + Snooker +.....
Pool only mean "the swiming pool" or something similar to that, absolutely nothing to do with our game.
So, That's where all these confusions come from.
In the US:
Pool = pocket billiards
Billiards = carambole ( the game I mentioned above )
Carom sometimes uses also to refer Carambole Billiards.
For all that, billiards is the way americans call carambole (carom).
Playing carom, the objective is using the CB to hit ,at first, one OB and then the 2nd OB. The principle is the same with the shot we play sometimes in pool when you play the CB off one ball to make another ball.
That's why we use the term "carom" or "billiards" to refer that kind of shot.
What's the different between them ? NOTHING, Americans use "billiards", others (countries) use "carom". And then Americans heard the word and started using it. And then some of them think that the word has different meaning.
Carom is a short-version of carambole a/k/a carambole billiards : the game you play with 3 balls on a 9ft or 10ft pocketless table. you make one point when the CB hit both OBs in one stroke.
Anywhere in the world except the US:
Billiards is the general terms for all games you play on a table with balls and sticks.
Billiards = Carambole Billiards + Pocket Billiards + Snooker +.....
Pool only mean "the swiming pool" or something similar to that, absolutely nothing to do with our game.
So, That's where all these confusions come from.
In the US:
Pool = pocket billiards
Billiards = carambole ( the game I mentioned above )
Carom sometimes uses also to refer Carambole Billiards.
For all that, billiards is the way americans call carambole (carom).
Playing carom, the objective is using the CB to hit ,at first, one OB and then the 2nd OB. The principle is the same with the shot we play sometimes in pool when you play the CB off one ball to make another ball.
That's why we use the term "carom" or "billiards" to refer that kind of shot.
What's the different between them ? NOTHING, Americans use "billiards", others (countries) use "carom". And then Americans heard the word and started using it. And then some of them think that the word has different meaning.
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Ok guys, let me help you on this confusion.
Carom is a short-version of carambole a/k/a carambole billiards : the game you play with 3 balls on a 9ft or 10ft pocketless table. you make one point when the CB hit both OBs in one stroke.
Anywhere in the world except the US:
Billiards is the general terms for all games you play on a table with balls and sticks.
Billiards = Carambole Billiards + Pocket Billiards + Snooker +.....
Pool only mean "the swiming pool" or something similar to that, absolutely nothing to do with our game.
So, That's where all these confusions come from.
In the US:
Pool = pocket billiards
Billiards = carambole ( the game I mentioned above )
Carom sometimes uses also to refer Carambole Billiards.
For all that, billiards is the way americans call carambole (carom).
Playing carom, the objective is using the CB to hit ,at first, one OB and then the 2nd OB. The principle is the same with the shot we play sometimes in pool when you play the CB off one ball to make another ball.
That's why we use the term "carom" or "billiards" to refer that kind of shot.
What's the different between them ? NOTHING, Americans use "billiards", others (countries) use "carom". And then Americans heard the word and started using it. And then some of them think that the word has different meaning.
Actually carambole is a separate but equal game, similar to straight rail billiards, but
requiring a multi rail billiard be scored at some fixed interval of points.
Only Brunswick, in their unrelenting and unsuccessful attempt to con the public into
believing Pool was a respectable game, called it Pocket Billiards.
The Brits call a carom a cannon, but they are British after all - and they play a game
which they nostalgically refer to as "Billiards"
Dale
"And the winner is..."
Dr Dave does basically say the same thing differently in both cases.
Ideologist has it correct:
A billiard when a cue ball comes off one object ball into another.
A carom is when an object ball is pocketed when after it hits another ball.
A carom/combination is when the object ball strikes another object ball into a pocket prior to hitting another object ball.
These two terms are probably the most mis-used in pool today. Even Andy Segal has mis-used the term in one of his tutorial videos that I found. What he's really showing you here is a BILLIARD. NOT A CAROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VmwF_zZ4g
Okay, sure... the cue ball does technically 'carom' off the object ball, but in Pocket Billiards and in 3-Cushion Billiards this is commonly referred to as a 'billiard'.
Take a look at Brandon from Select Billiards' explanation. He even says that it's often 'called' a carom but is actually a 'billiard' shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DevGnm1BgRs
Precisely. We should be able to vote answers up.
That's how I see it, the two terms (billiard or carom) can be used interchangeably.
No...
Pocket Billiards was first called, "Pocket Billiards". Brunswick had nothing to do with the name.
Pool is a colloquialism of Pocket Billiards because of the easy access to betting pools from pocket billiards.
Call this as it, formally, should be called, "Pocket Billiards." :shakehead:
This is why I never come around to these forums: Ignorant people with an opinion to shoot around making those with knowledge cringe with pity. For those that know, I salute them and wish them all the best to deal with those that don't know.
I thought a kiss was when a ball barely hits another ball.
Carom as a ball hitting another ball then goes to a pocket.
Carom as a ball hitting another ball then goes to a pocket.
I read them like 10 times, I was going to say the same thing.
Carom is when the object ball hits another then falls in the pocket, like when you move a ball sitting on or very close to the rail right by the side pocket to get that parked ball the heck outta there.
Billiard is when I shoot the 1 ball on a spot shot and the 9 is sitting in the jaws of the pocket on the same end but opposite corner and I win!!!
I think anyways
Carom happens between 2 numbered balls but is not a combo and a ball is pocketed.
Billiard happens between cue ball and 2 other numbered balls.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!
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I just thought it was a slang term for a ball gracing another ball thinly.
Whether the ball goes in or not .
If a cueball did it, then it's a billiard.
If a playing ball hit it, it's a carom.
"A little knowledge is indeed a dangerous thing"
Sorry slick, but you know not of what you speak.
You have repeated the oft made mistake of merging the term "pool" indeed used for
the betting pool associated with a game of Billiards in England for years before there
ever was a Brunswick Billiard table, and Pool the game that evolved in America
from the "4 ball" Game - played on the English style tables(with pockets)
But thanks for stopping in and showing us all how much you don't know.
Dale(who thinks it is time to cease and desist to avoid hijacking)