All Japan Championships

one stroke said:
And I highly doubt he would have beat Ko in 8 ball had he been in the right frame of mind after seeing a ghost they brought back to life


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My thoughts exactly. That match was tainted to all hell because of the way it unfolded.
 
bicki said:
imo the Mosconi Cup is mainly about handling the pressure. Since the races are so short, the actual outcome of a match even depends significantly on luck. Especially with the stupid 3ball-kitchen-rule.

However, my point is that u cannot really train pressure situations with your team mates in some training session in some pool room. That is why I think Shane would have had the better opportunity in Japan to train handling pressure...

Shane will have his reasons for sure. And we might find out one day.
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Yes, because we all know Shane needs help on how to handle pressure.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Yes, because we all know Shane needs help on how to handle pressure.
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Go on Youtube and watch the match between Shane and Ko. See for yourself what the real pressure is. The pressure on that match is unbelievable. Not counting more than 20k on the line, the two fight for their pride. Pay attention to how they behave on their chairs and at the table. Well I have to say in that match Ko handled the pressure better than Shane.
 
Masayoshi said:
Interesting, the brackets and the billiard news in Japan say that he is playing, but its entirely possible that they are wrong or he canceled because the second stage doesn't start until Thursday.
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Shane posted on a Mika FB post today asking "why is my name on the brackets when I told them I wasn't going?"

I guess that answers that :)

Ron Mason
 
amason101070 said:
Shane posted on a Mika FB post today asking "why is my name on the brackets when I told them I wasn't going?"

I guess that answers that :)

Ron Mason
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I would guess that they had the brackets made well in advance and probably didn't remember to change it. Big Japanese tournaments usually have the draw posted online a week or two before the event.
 
shane is one of the best front-runners there is imo. Is he the best grinder, the hardest fighter? I don't think so. Alex, Darren, Dennis.... just to name a few. I've seen shane crumble under pressure, start moaning, slamming the stick around and stuff.

So it is still my believe that Japan would have been an excellent event to deal with pressure. Maybe he did not want to travel that much, adapt to two different time zones in a relatively short time.

As far as is reported, shane trains like no other. Training-wise he will be at the top of his game anyway. Question is only how he will handle the immense pressure at the Mosconi Cup. I am convinces he will do fine.
 
I don't think his not going to Japan had anything to do with him..

bicki said:
shane is one of the best front-runners there is imo. Is he the best grinder, the hardest fighter? I don't think so. Alex, Darren, Dennis.... just to name a few. I've seen shane crumble under pressure, start moaning, slamming the stick around and stuff.

So it is still my believe that Japan would have been an excellent event to deal with pressure. Maybe he did not want to travel that much, adapt to two different time zones in a relatively short time.

As far as is reported, shane trains like no other. Training-wise he will be at the top of his game anyway. Question is only how he will handle the immense pressure at the Mosconi Cup. I am convinces he will do fine.
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I don't think we have to worry about how Shane deals with the pressure, I think we have to worry about how the rest of the team do.

Everyone on the US team is going to be looking Shane as the obvious best player on the team.

I think him staying is to show the team that he isn't just out for himself and he cares about the team, that can go a long way to self confidence when you know you're not alone and self confidence goes a LONG way to helping to handle pressure.

Jaden
 
watchez said:
... I do know that the Mosconi Cup is every December. I do know it is USA vs Europe. I do know the event this year is sold out. Europe has won 4 in a row and is something like 100 games winner, playing races to 5, in that time. ...
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You may be remembering Mark Wilson saying that Europe is 100 games ahead of the USA; yes (actually 99 games), but it is for the last 8 years (as Mark said), not 4.

And it's not always races to 5; they have changed quite a few times. In 2013, 2011, 2009, and 2007, it was all races to 6. In 2012 and 2008, it was all races to 5. In 2010, some matches went to 5 and some to 6. In 2006, some matches went to 5, some to 6, and some to 7.

In the past 8 years, Europe has won 6 times, the USA once, and they tied once. Europe has won 23 more matches than the USA over those 8 years (85 - 62). Here are the number of games won by each team for each of the last 8 years (Europe first):

2013 -- 76 - 50
2012 -- 83 - 69
2011 -- 90 - 70
2010 -- 95 - 78
2009 -- 78 - 88
2008 -- 68 - 50
2007 -- 93 - 81
2006 -- 110 - 108

8-Year Total -- 693 - 594


[Thanks to Wikipedia for showing match results.]
 
Masayoshi said:
The All Japan Championships Qualifying rounds start tomorrow with the main event starting on Thursday (Japan time).

Stream and other links

Brackets

This year Johnny Archer and Rodney Morris join Shane as representatives from the US.
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Thanx for the link, sir.
...enjoyed watching Majid play....Yusuke was outclassed.
Majid reminds me of a young Bustamante.
 
bicki said:
shane is one of the best front-runners there is imo. Is he the best grinder, the hardest fighter? I don't think so. Alex, Darren, Dennis.... just to name a few. I've seen shane crumble under pressure, start moaning, slamming the stick around and stuff.
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Guess you weren't at Derby City this year. After losing to Mike Dechaine in Round 4 of the 9-ball event, Shane won his next nine matches to win it. No, he doesn't need to front run to find the winner's circle.
 
sjm said:
Guess you weren't at Derby City this year. After losing to Mike Dechaine in Round 4 of the 9-ball event, Shane won his next nine matches to win it. No, he doesn't need to front run to find the winner's circle.
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I think he means within a match not within a tourney :)
 
AtLarge said:
You may be remembering Mark Wilson saying that Europe is 100 games ahead of the USA; yes (actually 99 games), but it is for the last 8 years (as Mark said), not 4.

And it's not always races to 5; they have changed quite a few times. In 2013, 2011, 2009, and 2007, it was all races to 6. In 2012 and 2008, it was all races to 5. In 2010, some matches went to 5 and some to 6. In 2006, some matches went to 5, some to 6, and some to 7.

In the past 8 years, Europe has won 6 times, the USA once, and they tied once. Europe has won 23 more matches than the USA over those 8 years (85 - 62). Here are the number of games won by each team for each of the last 8 years (Europe first):

2013 -- 76 - 50
2012 -- 83 - 69
2011 -- 90 - 70
2010 -- 95 - 78
2009 -- 78 - 88
2008 -- 68 - 50
2007 -- 93 - 81
2006 -- 110 - 108

8-Year Total -- 693 - 594


[Thanks to Wikipedia for showing match results.]
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Don't bring facts into this conversation ---- nice research.
 
Something to think about that I didn't see mentioned... Just maybe, since Shane decided to be a member of the M.C. team, he decided that his word on that was more important than a possible personal glory in another tournament. From what I have heard, SVB seems to be a man of his word.
 
sjm said:
Guess you weren't at Derby City this year. After losing to Mike Dechaine in Round 4 of the 9-ball event, Shane won his next nine matches to win it. No, he doesn't need to front run to find the winner's circle.
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Here's Shane's path to victory in the 2014 DCC 9-Ball event (sorry, I don't have all the match scores). He had some pretty good wins with one loss. And in the finals he was behind 1-4 early and 7-8 late.

1. Alvis Fitch
2. Christopher Pyle
3. Marty Opyd
4. Mike Dechaine (8 - 9)
5. Shannon Daulton (9 - 7)
6. Niels Feijen
7. Darren Appleton (9 - 0)
8. Joseph Gray
9. Rusian Chinahov
10. Carlo Biado
11. Dennis Orcollo (9 - 7)
12. bye
13. John Morra (9 - 8)

Edit -- Against Daulton, his only streamed match other than the finals, Shane was behind 5-7 then took 4 games in a row to win the match.
 
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