Consider me an Idiot ............

[Old Nine Baller]

He actually made a point there and gave an example about a money ball being made WITHOUT being spotted back up.
In his example, the moneyball just changed.

He talked about the 6 being made while the 4 & 5 were still on the table. The 6 was never a "money" ball until the 4 & 5 were gone. Learn to play.

ONB

 

[Old Nine Baller]

I don't know anything about gambling, yet, I was in an article in Card Player magazine in 2006.

I don't know anything about gambling. You should probably quit while you're ahead, errr behind...

Jaden

Wow, that's really impressive. Gambling at cards. That really moves you up on the list of poolplayer gamblers.

ONB

 

[Old Nine Baller]

Besides that it is universally true that "money balls" never stay down on a foul/roll out.

So you guys are saying that ALWAYS in gambling the money ball gets spotted back up???

That is funny, because I will always purposefully make an opponent's money ball combo or carom when it's available, and not ONCE has it been spotted up, but I have seen players agree that money balls are ALWAYS spotted back up when made out of turn.

So again, it comes down to what is agreed upon by both parties.

I will also say that I would err on it being spotted back up if it had not been discussed before hand and it sure as shit isn't a FOUL to make the opponents money ball on a push...lol

Jaden

Well, I guess you proved CJ wrong.

ONB

 

[Jaden]

Yep...

Well, I guess you proved CJ wrong.

ONB

If he claims it's a foul to make any ball on a pushout, then yes. Show me ANY official rules that making a ball on a pushout is a foul and I'll eat my words.

BTW, you said learn to play, not learn to gamble. They're finishing loading that match up to youtube as we speak if YOU want to learn to PLAY....

Jaden

 

[Old Nine Baller]

If you have a push and the runout is difficult, but a money ball is sitting in the pocket, the choice should be easy, you call push and shoot in the money ball.

If it's the nineball it gets spotted. If it's another ball that you are spotting to the opponent, it should be discussed whether or not out of turn money balls get spotted up or not before play starts, if play starts without discussing it, it should be spotted on a pushout only but not any time it is made in play.

If I made my opponents money ball after calling push and he went to grab the cb. I'd say, WTF are you doing and I'd stop him right there. A push can hit any ball or no ball and make any ball or no ball with the opponents option to take it as it lays or pass it back to the pusher.

Jaden

You don't have a clue. Anytime you make your opponents money ball on a foul it spots back up. Unless you are playing at the YWCA where it seems you learned the rules of the game.

ONB

 

[Old Nine Baller]

They're finishing loading that match up to youtube as we speak if YOU want to learn to PLAY....

Jaden

I'm sure that'll really impress me.

ONB

 

[Banks]

You don't have a clue. Anytime you make your opponents money ball on a foul it spots back up. Unless you are playing at the YWCA where it seems you learned the rules of the game.

ONB

Where's the rule? You know everything except where to find the rule, so it would seem.

Just being argumentative on 1P.org wasn't enough, eh?

 

[j_zippel]

You don't have a clue. Anytime you make your opponents money ball on a foul it spots back up. Unless you are playing at the YWCA where it seems you learned the rules of the game.



ONB

Simmer down you ODB....


1,2 barbecue

 

[Black-Balled]

in toher words, if I were playing SVB, I would ask for the 2 ball!

And get heisted!

I heard he plays pretty well,

 

[Black-Balled]

typically when someone posts a question like this, he's reamed for not knowing something or told to use search or any number of douchebag comments.

I'm actually proud of my AZ family for just answering his questions without reaming him for not knowing...

Jaden

Sorry...I Failed the board...again.

 

[Black-Balled]

Why is making a ball on the push out a foul? Don't think I've heard that one before

Because it isn't just a ball, it is a money ball.

When my opponent makes my money ball on a push or intentional foul and tries to play it off like it doesn't spot, I make the 9 and and act the same.

Tough to win with no money ball on the table.

But really, it is one of those things that should be addressed prior to play.

 

[Black-Balled]

What are you, 12 years old?

ONB

Gotta be pms.

Old 9 pms baller. That shall be your new name, you cranky old codger.

 

[Old Nine Baller]

Where's the rule? You know everything except where to find the rule, so it would seem.

Just being argumentative on 1P.org wasn't enough, eh?

Anytime you stop replying to me I will stop replying to you.

You can always run away (again) to here:http://southernbilliards.yuku.com/

I'm sure you'll appreciate the laidback atmosphere there.

ONB

 

[Old Nine Baller]

Gotta be pms.

Old 9 pms baller. That shall be your new name, you cranky old codger.

You gotta admit, it's got a catchy ring to it.

ONB

 

[Banks]

Anytime you stop replying to me I will stop replying to you.

You can always run away (again) to here:http://southernbilliards.yuku.com/

I'm sure you'll appreciate the laidback atmosphere there.

ONB

So, in other words, there really is no rule about it? Nice to know.

Learn how to play. :thumbup:

Edit: Run away again to where? You're a special kind of know-it-all.

 

[Old Nine Baller]

So, in other words, there really is no rule about it? Nice to know.

Learn how to play. :thumbup:

Edit: Run away again to where? You're a special kind of know-it-all.

You may want to re-read the title of this thread. All of your answers are there.

ONB

 

[Banks]

You may want to re-read the title of this thread. All of your answers are there.

ONB

So, there's no rule about it? Just admit that you don't know everything.. for a change.

 

[rezin8]

I'm not a one pocket player, I've never played the game. I've watched it played and understand the rules ( I think ). What is this 15 - 3 type stuff that I see?

15-3 is the number of balls each player has to make to win the game. I was the guy that posted the 15-3 game.

A normal game of 1P is a race to 8 balls. Playing 15-3, the guy playing to 15 starts out owing two balls and those ball will be spotted after he makes them. In my case, I needed to make 3 balls in my pocket before he made 15 in his. You might be thinking to yourself "Really? 3 balls? That's it?" When you're playing someone that knows how to play 1 pocket and you yourself don't, it's not so easy to make those 3 balls.

 

[alstl]

Iam fairly new to the 9 ball scene so just wondering what does it meen when someone says ..." you got the 8 or the 7 or 6 or whatever" ???

If you have to ask that question and if you are gambling then you probably aren't asking for enough weight.

 

[Dockter]

15-3 is the number of balls each player has to make to win the game. I was the guy that posted the 15-3 game.

A normal game of 1P is a race to 8 balls. Playing 15-3, the guy playing to 15 starts out owing two balls and those ball will be spotted after he makes them. In my case, I needed to make 3 balls in my pocket before he made 15 in his. You might be thinking to yourself "Really? 3 balls? That's it?" When you're playing someone that knows how to play 1 pocket and you yourself don't, it's not so easy to make those 3 balls.

Thanks for that and I can totally understand it being hard to make 3 especially against someone that knows what they are doing.


Confused why a push-out would be a foul. I understand why the "money ball" would be spotted but probably something good to clarify before the game starts.

2.4 Second Shot of the Rack – Push Out
If no foul is committed on the break shot, the shooter may choose to play a “push out” as his shot. He must make his intention known to the referee, and then rules 6.2 Wrong Ball First and 6.3 No Rail after Contact are suspended for the shot. If no foul is committed on a push out, the other player chooses who will shoot next.

I understand it's gambling and there is no ref but normally you can still push can't you?