Sorry, but car dealers to take assignment cars all the time. I never said "new" car dealers. They do it AL the time.
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Deal gone bad on superior cues site
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Sorry, but car dealers to take assignment cars all the time. I never said "new" car dealers. They do it AL the time.
100% I will.
Problem is, I won't be letting joe blow sale under my name. I'll know what's being sent.
as much as I would like to, I can't spend any more time on this thread. I've said what I wanted to.
I'll leave you and anyone else who cares, with this thought.
No one has all of the facts, and that is a fact.
A lot of speculation and gut feelings are being substituted for facts.
When someone's rep is being publicly challenged, and especially someone who makes their living selling cues and is being called out on AzB, then I think the standard needs to be higher than guesses and gut feelings based on an incomplete story.
All we do know at this point is Martin didn't return Pookster's calls or texts. And that Pookster did a deal with a guy named Don and wasn't happy with the cue because it was not accurately described. And that Pookster funded the purchase with paypal using the gift option sohe has no recourse.
That is what we know for facts.
Is Martin's decision to ignore Pooksters calls and texts enough for his name and business to be dragged through the mud?
or for people to presume he is guilty of more? what more?
C'mon guys. before you soil someone's rep, make damn sure you have it right.
and make sure the punishment fits the crime; that it's not an o-v-e-r-r-e-a-c-t-i-o-n.
I've seen less poisonous threads over someone who flat-out stole.
I think it would have been nice if Martin called Pookster back even though he was under no obligation to do so since the deal was between Pookster and Don. And this is why I asked both guys to post their text messages because this might shed some light on why Martin didn't call back. Or not.
Neither guy has posted them.
My main point is that a man's rep should not be tarnished unless it is proven that it's deserved. Prove guilt with facts.
GL to pookster; I really hope he gets this deal unwound.
I am officially done.
best,
brian kc
I will post all Text message later on Today so don't be done with this tread yet so you can see the truth and I don't have anything to hide but what would it gain for me by posting the text? nothing really and I didn't accuse martin of anything at first.All I ask is for him to call me or pick up my phone call.
So i think he should be the one that should post all harrasing and threaten message like he accused me of.And my offer still stand if he can show those text
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You nail right on the money sir!
Does not Pooky's rep count for anything? Martin advised he sent harrassing and threatening texts? Why don't you stand with Pooky on this, since it's a reputation thing. Pooky's repuation was publicly challenged, why don't you stand up for that too? Why does only Martin's reputation count for something??
KC, it's quite obviuos you have chosen sides. And that's OK, but don't make it appear that you are some neutral 3rd party here. You've got Martin's back, heck, you even called him to discuss this, so I'm assuming here you have some personal connection with the guy as well.
And anything Martin tells you is hearsay. We don't know what he says or didn't say, so if he does not have the stones to come on here with his point of view, nobody wants to hear a second hand converastion either.
Thank you sir and I do remember that tread.It was about you ordering rosewood burl and you got a normal burl cue instead and Martin told you to take it up with Mike even you order the cue through martin
For the guys who need endless sub-forums:
Wanted: Naturally weighted cues, not drilled for weight bolt
For Sale: Naturally weighted cues, not drilled for weight bolt
Wanted: Cues that are drilled for a weight bolt
For Sale: Cues that are drilled for a weight bolt
Wanted: Weight bolts
For Sale: Weight bolts
On Ebay: Weight bolts
Wanted: Cues that do not have a weight bolt or a metal screw at the A-joint
For Sale: Cues that do not have a weight bolt or a metal screw at the A-joint
Wanted: Cues that have 3/8-16 drilling for adjustable weight in .33 oz increments
For sale: Cues that have 3/8-16 drilling for adjustable weight in .33 oz increments
Wanted: LD shaft with built-in leveling device / mechanical
Wanted: LD shaft with built-in leveling device / digital
He should buy an Alex Brick Custom ... He NEVER uses weight bolts
and there are tons of his cues out there (most are Not For Sale).
turn our focus back on Don, where it belongs, to help you get back your refund and send the cue back to Don.
best,
brian kc
Agree with this!!!! If there was a disclaimer on Martin's site and this cue in particular, issue is with Seller and Buyer. IMO...Martin should help the buyer get this issue resolved as it was advertised on his site. This thread should have started off as a "Watch out for Don" kinda thing but is ending up as a "Burn Martin at the stake" by association.
I wish Pookster the best of luck in getting this resolved.
Actaully, it started as why won't Martin take my phone calls or at least call Don and see if he wants to dp right by Pooky cause a client of Martin screwed someone over.... I mean, it could't have hurt to call the guy and say that was NOT cool.
as much as I would like to, I can't spend any more time on this thread. I've said what I wanted to.
I'll leave you and anyone else who cares, with this thought.
No one has all of the facts, and that is a fact.
A lot of speculation and gut feelings are being substituted for facts.
When someone's rep is being publicly challenged, and especially someone who makes their living selling cues and is being called out on AzB, then I think the standard needs to be higher than guesses and gut feelings based on an incomplete story.
All we do know at this point is Martin didn't return Pookster's calls or texts. And that Pookster did a deal with a guy named Don and wasn't happy with the cue because it was not accurately described. And that Pookster funded the purchase with paypal using the gift option sohe has no recourse.
That is what we know for facts.
Is Martin's decision to ignore Pooksters calls and texts enough for his name and business to be dragged through the mud?
or for people to presume he is guilty of more? what more?
C'mon guys. before you soil someone's rep, make damn sure you have it right.
and make sure the punishment fits the crime; that it's not an o-v-e-r-r-e-a-c-t-i-o-n.
I've seen less poisonous threads over someone who flat-out stole.
I think it would have been nice if Martin called Pookster back even though he was under no obligation to do so since the deal was between Pookster and Don. And this is why I asked both guys to post their text messages because this might shed some light on why Martin didn't call back. Or not.
Neither guy has posted them.
My main point is that a man's rep should not be tarnished unless it is proven that it's deserved. Prove guilt with facts.
GL to pookster; I really hope he gets this deal unwound.
I am officially done.
best,
brian kc
One problem. You omitted some important facts. As part of his alibi, Martin accused the OP of profane and angry texts. He was immediately called out by the OP to substantiate that accusation by posting pictures of the texts. No response in 3 days by Martin. Doesn't it stand to reason that if this thread is threatening Martins livelihood, he'd take some proactive steps to clear his supposed good name? Since he hasn't come forward to produce the text proof, is not unreasonable to assume this was a lie or at least, a substantial exaggeration. The next step in the logic chain is rather obvious but I'll connect the dots for you. Since he lied or exaggerated about one thing, it's very reasonable to assume he's lied about other things as well. This is even more logical where we know of a similar situation involving another az member who posted on this thread.
I think the message regarding Martin is real clear. If you want a nice cue, Martin has a number of them. If you have a problem with a cue you buy from Martin, don't expect any support from him at all. That doesn't make Martin evil or mean you shouldn't buy a cue from him if you see one you like. It just means you should have your expectations set realistically about any support from Martin if you encounter a problem. It's caveat emptor and fob shipping point.
BUT they don't tell you to deal with the third party on cars that they might take on consignment/asswignment. This cue was not an assignment, it was no more than a community posting.
JV
Whatever your beef with Martin, he was not a consignor. If so, the deal would have been through him. He was nothing more than an outlet to post something for sale.
Nothing more, nothing less.
JV
Nope, they hook you up with the seller and you make the deal... they don't touch nothing. Obviusly, they get some commision for letting it sit on their lot, but the paperwork is between the owner and the buyer.....
Lots of varying opinions on it. I don't feel Martin is responsible as it was not his cue and Pookie was not his customer, the cue was listed on his site as for sale by another person. Maybe Martin can talk to the guy to make it right but does not have any obligation, I am sure Martin will not be letting anyone post a cue on his site to sell as a favor. Would Martin perhaps have a cue Pookie is interested in without a weight bolt they could do a trade on?
As I said, no different. Because what is being said here, that if I posted link on my website to another site, because I liked that company. You purchased something from that company through a link on my site, and it goes bad. That in some sort of freakshow way, I led you astray and I have to make good on your purchase. Because you figured oh well CC has a link, that must be good. See you in court.
He did it as a favor to his customer. The reason is irrelevant, prior purchase, future purchase, whatever. The fact is he made it clear to Pookie that he was dealing with someone other than Martin himself. Had Martin handled the sale, IMHO its a slam dunk.
I do not know what communications did or did not happen between pookie or Martin, Martin and Don, Don and Pookie. I cannot and will not speculate on what might have been said. Only what is posted here. No one has Dons side at all..
The moral of the story here is if you're driving down the road and see a car for sale, and you tell your friend about it and he buys it. He drives down the road and loses his breaks and kills 10 kids at a school bus stop... you're the one who's liable.
JV