What Percentage Of Shots Do You Spin?

What % of your shots do you believe you use spin/English on?

I spin nearly every shot except straight in's. I will qualify that it's usually slightly favoring one side of the cue ball or the other. These shots don't necessarily result in much spin, but allow the cue ball to return from the rail at a finely controllable angle. The other reason is to counter skid or throw.I also almost always hit below or above center too - again mainly for fine cue ball control.

As far as actually hitting a tip or more outside of center for English, maybe 10% - 20% of my shots. Playing a tip or more out is where I feel there is a greater chance of missing due to misjudging the forces of English.
 
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I spin nearly every shot except straight in's. I will qualify that it's usually slightly favoring one side of the cue ball or the other. These shots don't necessarily result in much spin, but allow the cue ball to return from the rail at a finely controllable angle. The other reason is to counter skid or throw.I also almost always hit below or above center too - again mainly for fine cue ball control.

As far as actually hitting a tip or more outside of center for English, maybe 10% - 20% of my shots. Playing a tip or more out is where I feel there is a greater chance of missing due to misjudging the forces of English.
Yes, This!!
 
This is what an old road player (My Dad) told me 60 years ago. He to him said, "Stop putting all that $hit on the ball. You might think it looks cool, but did you know more spin you use the less money you'll have in your pocket at the end of the night? The better you can control that white SOB, the less need for sidespin. You don't need to spin if you get the position right. Get on the next shot right and all you need is maybe, a little running English.

I wish I would have listened to him more back then...but I knew everything back then. What took me years to figure out, I had been told right from my first playing days. Johnnyt

I'm agree with your father.

PD: 90% or more
 
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A lot. I remember in the TAR podcast, Dennis Orcullo said that he almost never hits center ball. I'm in the same camp.

That's me. I almost never hit center ball. I also almost never hit the cue ball at 3 or 9:00 either. I slow roll balls with high center & I shoot stop shots along the vertical axis & some draw shots, but everything else has some form of off the vertical axis hit on them. However, since Mr. Wiley introduce his form of TOI, I have been using the tad of inside hit for the purpose of squirt instead of the spin.

So... if I had to guess, I'd say I use non vertical axis about 75 to 80% of the time.

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Rick
 
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90% or more. You almost always need to do something. The games I play don't give me ball in hand on every ball.

Nick
 
I guess it would be like a "knuckle ball" in baseball

I used to spin everything.. :thumbup:

I would think it difficult to hit any shot without spin, even when contacting the center perfectly. I guess it would be like a "knuckle ball" in baseball, however, when on a cloth surface this seems pretty unusual. I'm more interested in reducing the after-contact-spin.
 
I took a private lesson with Dennis Orcullo and I asked him what percentage of his shots he uses English on. He looked at me with the most puzzled look on his face and muttered, "All of them." It was comforting to know I wasn't alone.
 
I don't use spin, I use twirl' I pocket more balls with twirl.


Rob.M


This a great subject very close to home......used to throw and spin everything all the time until confronted by my team....the result was Bi-Focals. Not seeing well never stoped the mind from finding other ways to pocket balls.

Jim
 
at home on a larger table I use about 20%, then all leagues and tournaments I shoot are on a 7 foot table and shoot only 8 ball. I use english about 90% of the time to break clusters and get shape on the smaller surface.
 
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What % of your shots do you believe you use spin/English on?

Usually only the ones I have to...tangent line position works out really well and keeps you from having to. However I have a friend who is a ball spinner, when I play him....probably I spin 75% of what I shoot but thats just to show him I can.
 
Almost never but your view of it and mine may differ. I believe spin refers to "after object ball contact" not before. What I do use is generally an 1/8 tip to 1/4 tip and it kills or stuns after object ball contact creating "no spin". I love playing guys who spin the ball a lot, even those that are the very best at it as its perishable. After a certain amount of time fatigue causes them to come up short or roll long & that's when the fun starts.
 
I took a look at this a while back. I left/right the cue ball about 25% of my shots. I try to stay on Vertical Center as much as possible.

I don't think it makes a lot of difference whether we do or don't spin the cue ball. With proper practice routines we can get better doing a lot of things.

Just a personal choice, like not dropping my elbow.
randyg
 
If you consider yourself a B player or above and you say you don't use side spin on most of your shots (in rotation games), then I think you fall into at least one of the following categories...

A) You are intentionally lying.

B) You are actually not aware you use side spin on most of your shots.

C) You are not a B player or better, but rather a C player or worse.

D) You are living in a universe where friction doesn't exist.

I know 'D' is impossible and I'd rather not think most people are dishonest, so I think 'B' applies to most of these people.

It's all about a matter of degree, but for any good player playing a rotation game, you are hitting the ball off the CB's vertical axis more than most of the time.
 
Me, probably too many. Sidebar: a few yrs. back Buddy lived here in Tulsa and played/practiced at Magoo's. I was/am in awe of the number of balls he ran while staying on center-axis of the cue ball. A little follow or draw but always center. He figured if he could the proper angle off a ball early in the rack he wouldn't need to spin it. He could LOAD-it up if he had to but rarely did.
 
If you consider yourself a B player or above and you say you don't use side spin on most of your shots (in rotation games), then I think you fall into at least one of the following categories...

A) You are intentionally lying.

B) You are actually not aware you use side spin on most of your shots.

C) You are not a B player or better, but rather a C player or worse.

D) You are living in a universe where friction doesn't exist.

I know 'D' is impossible and I'd rather not think most people are dishonest, so I think 'B' applies to most of these people.

It's all about a matter of degree, but for any good player playing a rotation game, you are hitting the ball off the CB's vertical axis more than most of the time.

I'm with Randy on this. You just don't realize how much you can do without sidespin to make the statement you did.
 
My earlier post about Buddy's use of spin dealt mostly with practice sessions. While playing he of course has to spin it but to me it looks like he uses spin less than a lot of high-speed players.
 
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