Gawd Darn Geometrists!
Fractional aiming & systems like it
- Thread starter Patrick Johnson
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The visual size of the 2 balls makes absolutely no difference.... If you aim with the center of the CB.
The CB center will never change... Aim the CB center past the pocketing contact point on the OB.
Aim past the same distance that equals the distance that's between OB center and OB contact point.
If the distance between the OB center and the contact point is 1/4" you would aim the CB center to a
point on the OB that is 1/2" from OB center. Equal distances. 1/4" To and 1/4" Past the contact point.
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Is the above statements true say the OB moves closer to the rail or if the CB moves over two squares to the right?
Why did you just post one shot and not a variety of shots to truely explain fractional.
How bout a nice pic showing all the useless angles for a rail first shot?
Yep all those angles are useless. There is only one angle that matters, angle into the pocket, why even concern yourself with angles that dont matter? Seem just over complicated to me.
What "statements"?
In English that's known as an "example".
Sounds delightful - have at it.
It only sounds complicated if you don't understand it.
pj
chgo
Not that is funny coming from you.
I think you hit it on the nail! A dozen different methods of doing ONE simple task...put the ball in the pocket!
Except, aiming isn't as simple as some would make it out to be. Look at what most amateurs end their run on- a missed shot. Look at how often they play a tough safe when the shot is makeable.
For those that think aiming is so easy, next time out, have either you or a friend try a little quick experiment. Set up a number of different shots of varying difficulty. Then, you tell your friend where to place the ghost ball while you are down behind the cb. See how many times you get it right, and how many you get it wrong. You just might be surprised by the results.
So I tried this...Except, aiming isn't as simple as some would make it out to be. Look at what most amateurs end their run on- a missed shot. Look at how often they play a tough safe when the shot is makeable.
For those that think aiming is so easy, next time out, have either you or a friend try a little quick experiment. Set up a number of different shots of varying difficulty. Then, you tell your friend where to place the ghost ball while you are down behind the cb. See how many times you get it right, and how many you get it wrong. You just might be surprised by the results.
It proved aiming isn't that hard. I got the ghost ball right in a position to make the ball every shot.
Aiming isn't done when down so this is rather pointless to say the least. Aiming is done in the upright position and everyone after a little experience can see where the cue ball needs to go to make the ball. The PSR and alignment is the issue if they don't have the cue pointing to the ghost ball in your experiment.
Except, aiming isn't as simple as some would make it out to be. Look at what most amateurs end their run on- a missed shot. Look at how often they play a tough safe when the shot is makeable.
For those that think aiming is so easy, next time out, have either you or a friend try a little quick experiment. Set up a number of different shots of varying difficulty. Then, you tell your friend where to place the ghost ball while you are down behind the cb. See how many times you get it right, and how many you get it wrong. You just might be surprised by the results.
Few people can focus on many things...then execute just one perfectly. Our mind allows us to "focus" on just one thing and everything else is a distraction. Fact is, most amateurs end their run BECAUSE they focus too intently on aiming, and their position play sucks. Imagine if an amateur's EVERY shot was a shot he could easily make...could he run the table? Of course he could, but he rarely leaves himself an easy shot (especially if there are clusters on the table)! Aiming for all good players is something that is done almost unconsciously. This allows one to focus on more important aspects of running the table. No matter how good your aim is, if you are left with an unmakeable shot, you won't make it! How many times have you played against someone with "a good eye" but couldn't run the table to save his life?
In that article from 1995 when pros were asked how they aim, most of them said it is something they don't really think about! Yes, some tried to explain but then said it comes down to "feel". Regardless of how you learned to aim, when practiced enough you will develop a "feel" for the shot. Probably because you made the same shot a thousand times!
You skipped over the entire point I was making. What's a tough shot? If the shot is makeable, it's makeable. If they are missing the tough shots, why are they missing them? Could easily be the simple fact that they can't aim it properly. Could also be because their stroke isn't accurate enough for those shots that require high accuracy. One way to tell is by the test I proposed.
As far as aiming subconsciously, yes, that is the goal. Do you really think that aiming system users don't do the same thing? The goal is to teach the subconscious what you want it to do. Then let it just do it's thing.
Some of you guys make is sound like any system user is consciously going through each step to get their aim. That isn't how the game is played. That routine is for the practice table where one teaches the subconscious what to do.
I think that describes all aiming. Our systems are aids in that process, not substitutes for it.
pj
chgo
In CTE, though, the system takes the player to the shot line. Plus , the real CTE system connects with 90 degree angles on a 2x1.
But in time, CTE becomes very subconscious, not to mean that one loses sight of what is occurring.
Stan Shuffett
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Yes, we know that claim. We could throw darts at AzB blindfolded and hit that claim 2 out of 3 tries.
Yeah, we hear that a lot too, whatever it means.
pj
chgo
I'm pretty sure we disagree on the definition of "demonstrate".
pj <- socks still on
chgo
I would not expect that you'd agree that demonstrating anything CTE-wise would satisfy you. Why? Because you are well aware that I can go to a table and demonstrate real CTE. Your mindset is if it can't be demonstrated on paper then you'd ain't buying what the eyes and body can intelligently do on a table.
As I have said before the eyes represent the surface of a superior pool playing intelligence when compared to the intelligences that can draw lines and circles on a sheet of paper.
And there is the problem....you do not recognize VISUAL INTELLIGENCE. You likely think the eyes are only a window from which to view the world.
Stan Shuffett
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I don't think anything so subtle as how we actually aim can be demonstrated by video. If I make a straight-in shot on video but say I'm aligning strictly CB center to OB edge, is that a demonstration that I'm doing what I say? Maybe I just think that's what I'm doing. Lots of players have thought that's what they were doing with only the three fractional alignments, when that's clearly impossible.
I don't believe it's anything new - it's just "you know it when you see it", better known as the "f" word.
pj
chgo
No, when I teach and demo in person there can be no doubt that CTE is being used as described.
You know it when you see it lol. Could not be further from the truth.
I doubt that you will ever experience the joy of REAL CTE. You simply are not going to learn CTE and that means you will never experience it and that is where true knowledge emerges....I do not think anyone believes you understand CTE much less can use it.
Stan Shuffett
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Of course we all know what the "f" word is and you'd know it immediately when you saw it posted to you which would be well warranted because of your actions and ongoing harassing posts.
Unfortunately, we'd get BANNED and it should be the other way around.