What's with all the low-balling nits???

dom_poppa said:
That is more than fair.

The problem here is the seller. He's not willing to budge for $125 and this is a $1700 deal.

What the real problem here are sellers complaining and they are watching too much American Pickers.
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Trouble is, sellers find one gullible moron every blue moon, and think every buyer is like that.

I doubt there's a single other industry where sellers of used, unwanted rubbish can ask 90% of the retail price, and expect to get it.


This will continue until we stop being mugs.
 
snowmon34 said:
The culture of the wanted /for sale is heading in a different direction..
It's a shame..
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A very wise and dear friend once told me, upon my return from 8 yrs.
of flying duty in the U.S. Navy ... "Nothing Stays The Same".
He also said: "You will still die in a foreign country".
Damn It, anyway ... He was Right, on both counts.

It seems there is a new breed of cue buyer out there and "The Avid Collector"
is beginning to go the way of the 1948 Tucker.
 
jkmarshall_cues said:
Why are there so many low-balling nits crawling out from under their keypads lately on for sale items??? I don't remember this being that big of a problem in years past. Is it the economy??? or ??? Ideas??? Man, what a bunch of tire-kicking idiots!!! I've blocked a half-dozen idiots from PM-ing me recently so I don't get caught up in their drama.

John
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How are they acting any different than most dealers do?? Hell, I've even had dealers tell me you are better off not selling or trading a cue with them. They always say the same thing too- "I am a dealer and I have to make money on this". Well, no shit buddy? I have one for you. How about this one- "I am a private seller and I have to make money on this." And no, I am not referring to the person that thinks their Meucci should bring 5K that was on sale last year for $150.00.
 
Precisely !!! ... I deal in High End Luxury Watches ...

Rjmoncrief said:
Exactly right! I'm actually tired of seeing $5000 cues get bumped 17 times. I think there should be a separate thread for the higher end cues. Some are pretty to look at but to spend that kind of money is a different story.
JMHO
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I Buy, Sell, & Trade Luxury Watches on Watchnet.com and we have
seperate sections in the Trading Post forum for low - medium end
and high - ultra high end Watches. We also have Sub - Sections for
Watch Parts & Accessories.

I realize that All changes to this website require time and effort,
so those factors must be considered when we ask for "change".
 
I'll take a guy that low balls over a guy that negotiates, commits to a deal, and then backs out...
 
jkmarshall_cues said:
You are not the nits I was referring to. I was talking about the overseas buyers that want to buy a cue below half the price of a low market price and have me pay for shipping and insurance on top of that. By the way to Spain and the Middle East I have found shipping to be EXTREMELY HIGH well over $125.00 per cue.

I would love to sell you these cues. Let's talk privately however.

John
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In some cultures, low balling is expected. Not sure about Spain, but certainly in the Middle East.
 
I am a real nut
lately i have talked with people who are selling without success
I make low offers
only to have them accept my offer
then find out ,no one would pay as much as i did

i am becoming afraid to make any more offers
 
When anybody with a house had a home equity line of credit it was easy to buy stuff you would throw in the closet and never use.

Most guys play with one cue most of the time. I have about fifteen cues and play with just one. So if I were not getting a good deal why would I buy another cue.

When everybody was buying with funny money it was easy. Now you have to have after tax money to buy.
 
Honestly, I find it hard to even look at the sale forum. It is pretty much the same cues bumped to death.
 
#1 As mentioned before, if your selling a cue your goal is to get the most you can for it judiciously, and if you are buying a cue, your goal is to get it as cheap as possible.

That is the way things have always worked no matter what anyone says. Sure maybe its going on more from the buyers, because they have learned after buying overpriced cues that they can't get their money back if they sell them in the future, so, they try to get into a cue where they get a steal of a deal.

I would always want the best deal I could get, but I also want the seller to feel they had a great deal also.

That's my take on the situation....
 
It could be just some stupid kid (or adult) or someone that is in a financial bind and hoping they can grind you down and solve some of their money woes. I used to keep a huge inventory of items for sale on a forum and because I was the top guy on it there were always a few people that thought I would accept their ridiculous offers. One guy sent me dozens of lowball offers over a period of years and never bought one item from me and I sold stuff from .50 on up.

I agree that sometimes it is a cultural thing, in my experiences dealing with people from all over the world of all ages middle eastern buyers could be impatient at times but once you had what they wanted they would pay a premium for it. One guy was from Iraq and said their dollar is so much stronger than ours was the main reason.
 
here's an idea. If you've been trying to sell something, not just a cue, anything really, and it hasn't sold, your asking to much. people asking more for a cue than what you can get one from the maker for, seems legit...
 
ChicagoRJ said:
Don't feel bad. I get folks on Ebay low balling me on chalk... CHALK !! It's priced at $8, but I will get an email asking if they can get 2 for $10. As if that number deserves some type of discount ? wtf ?

It's why I never have garage sales anymore, I just give the stuff to a charity and save myself the heartache ;)
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What happened to your 14 year old son that sells on ebay? I guess he can't answer emails and say "no". LOL... I had you pegged right from the beginning. By the way, stop with your stupid PM's. I don't care how much chalk you "claim" to move. What is wrong with you, lol???
 
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xXGEARXx said:
What happened to your 14 year old son that sells on ebay? I guess he can't answer emails and say "no". LOL... I had you pegged right from the beginning. By the way, stop with your stupid PM's. I don't care how much chalk you "claim" to move. What is wrong with you, lol???
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That is a very good question. Nothing adds up with yappy - best just ignore him.
 
jkmarshall_cues said:
Why are there so many low-balling nits crawling out from under their keypads lately on for sale items??? I don't remember this being that big of a problem in years past. Is it the economy??? or ??? Ideas??? Man, what a bunch of tire-kicking idiots!!! I've blocked a half-dozen idiots from PM-ing me recently so I don't get caught up in their drama.

John
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Welcome to the new normal, or whatever it's morphing into. Pool players tho, generally buy cues to immediately turn a profit, that will never change.
 
No need to call people names you.... :cool:

I'll tell you why, for several reasons, first, because discretionary spending is drying up for the middle 80% class, (nits are you call them). To make matters worse, collectors are realizing that their collections aren't worth what they used to be. Suck it up and honker down for a bumpy ride because cue futures are looking down.


jkmarshall_cues said:
Why are there so many low-balling nits crawling out from under their keypads lately on for sale items??? I don't remember this being that big of a problem in years past. Is it the economy??? or ??? Ideas??? Man, what a bunch of tire-kicking idiots!!! I've blocked a half-dozen idiots from PM-ing me recently so I don't get caught up in their drama.

John
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I agree 100%. I also believe that high end collectors are the less than 1%er's and come in two types. First type has plenty of discretionary money and cue collecting is a big pleasure to them or the second type have just enough money or trading power with a ton of passion and desire for cues, like yourself. Then there's the average player who needs one cue to play with on league night. All three types could be nitty as the OP says on a case by case basis. All three types may also consider the overall economy before making an offer for any level of cue.


Just my two cents..



Nuts4Tascarellas said:
Because that's what nits do... When they see that a guy has more than one high quality cue - they think he is rich. Then they think that he can afford to let this one go cheap. I have nice cues but no money. It's because I saved for years for them. I have also bought a bunch of mid range cues and trade 2, sometimes 3 for something of great value. Truthfully I think that a lot of nits are just ignorant. They couldn't tell a Rauenzhan from ravioli...
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xXGEARXx said:
I have got to share these PM's with you. Lol. They are pretty stellar! And this guy is in his 50's? WTH??
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Let me guess, bragging about how successful he is, the cars he owns yadda yadda. Here's a man that has married money, and isn't shy about telling the world how great he is.

Did he tell you about the certificate he has on his wall? Lol.
 
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