Mark Wilson says Mike Dechaine is "perhaps the finest player in the US"

sjm said:
Archer needs weight and that's why he ran from Mike at Derby City rather than playing him even. The bet was large, $10,000 I think, but Mike was ready to play and it was Archer who ran from a chance to play Mike even and yes, I was there when it happened.

With breaking form the box, a big bet, and a long race, I think Mike would win very easily in ten ball. Archer showed no form at all at either Derby City or Super Billiards Expo.
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If both players are in top form, my bet stays with JA! And then question is, is JA even playing much lately? Having a family and a business to run takes its toll on the mental aspect of the game! I'm sure you can agree with that!

But, back to the point. If JA "wants" to play, I'm sure he knows how to get himself ready! Mike, last I know, doesn't have family, a job, or any other significant cause to stay away from the table. In other words, he is relaxed, mind at ease:) very important for a great pool player!

I totally respect your opinion sir. But we are gentleman, we can agree to disagree with each other:) have a wonderful rest of the evening to you and yours:)

Eli
 
Maybe they should reconsider allowing wagers on pool matches. All these people that actually think Archer could beat Dechaine. Vegas would make a ton of money.
 
He was named 'Player of the Decade' in the 90s and still hit's em pretty well.

liakos said:
If both players are in top form, my bet stays with JA! And then question is, is JA even playing much lately? Having a family and a business to run takes its toll on the mental aspect of the game! I'm sure you can agree with that!

But, back to the point. If JA "wants" to play, I'm sure he knows how to get himself ready! Mike, last I know, doesn't have family, a job, or any other significant cause to stay away from the table. In other words, he is relaxed, mind at ease:) very important for a great pool player!

I totally respect your opinion sir. But we are gentleman, we can agree to disagree with each other:) have a wonderful rest of the evening to you and yours:)

Eli
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Stating Johnny Archer doesn't have a chance against anyone is interesting considering his history. I guess my opinion is different because I've seen Johnny in action so many times. He was named 'Player of the Decade' in the 90s and still hit's em pretty well.

Even when I was the captain of the Mosconi Cup Team (2012) Johnny had a spotless record (under the most strenuous conditions and pressure).
 
liakos said:
If both players are in top form, my bet stays with JA! And then question is, is JA even playing much lately? Having a family and a business to run takes its toll on the mental aspect of the game! I'm sure you can agree with that!

But, back to the point. If JA "wants" to play, I'm sure he knows how to get himself ready! Mike, last I know, doesn't have family, a job, or any other significant cause to stay away from the table. In other words, he is relaxed, mind at ease:) very important for a great pool player!

I totally respect your opinion sir. But we are gentleman, we can agree to disagree with each other:) have a wonderful rest of the evening to you and yours:)

Eli
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Mike's top form is crazy good right now, JA's was great a few years ago. Johnny can still put it together now and then but Mike is a force and will be for another decade at least.

If both players ar hitting on all eights I would give the nod to Mike.
 
Cuebuddy said:
Mike's top form is crazy good right now, JA's was great a few years ago. Johnny can still put it together now and then but Mike is a force and will be for another decade at least.

If both players ar hitting on all eights I would give the nod to Mike.
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What about against Shane V>? Johnny is certainly past his prime, although pool is a game you can play well into your 60s (Mike Lebron played world class in his mid 60s).
 
I agree that currently I would bet on MD. Remember that JA beat SVB not to long ago. The old dog can get hard sometimes.

Nick
 
CJ Wiley said:
What about against Shane V>? Johnny is certainly past his prime, although pool is a game you can play well into your 60s (Mike Lebron played world class in his mid 60s).
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It would be interesting to know who Shane would put his money on if he had to bet on a Johnny Mike match. I'm guessing he would place it on Johnny.
 
(((Satori))) said:
It would be interesting to know who Shane would put his money on if he had to bet on a Johnny Mike match. I'm guessing he would place it on Johnny.
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Bad guess. The last three times he met Mike in a major big table event, Shane lost (2013 Derby City 9-ball, 2014 Derby City 9-ball, 2014 Turning Stone). Shane knows Mike's speed all too well.
 
sjm said:
Bad guess. The last three times he met Mike in a major big table event, Shane lost (2013 Derby City 9-ball, 2014 Derby City 9-ball, 2014 Turning Stone). Shane knows Mike's speed all too well.
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Means really nothing , I highly doubt Mike is a favorite in any game in a long race

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one stroke said:
Means really nothing , I highly doubt Mike is a favorite in any game in a long race

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Not the point. But, seriously, who other than Mike often beats Shane in big spots in US-based tourneys? In recent years, the answer is just about nobody.

Shane is the best American by far. Mike is second best, also by far.
 
sjm said:
Archer needs weight and that's why he ran from Mike at Derby City rather than playing him even. The bet was large, $10,000 I think, but Mike was ready to play and it was Archer who ran from a chance to play Mike even and yes, I was there when it happened.

With breaking form the box, a big bet, and a long race, I think Mike would win very easily in ten ball. Archer showed no form at all at either Derby City or Super Billiards Expo.
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What weight did Johnny ask for?
 
sjm said:
Archer needs weight and that's why he ran from Mike at Derby City rather than playing him even. The bet was large, $10,000 I think, but Mike was ready to play and it was Archer who ran from a chance to play Mike even and yes, I was there when it happened.

With breaking form the box, a big bet, and a long race, I think Mike would win very easily in ten ball. Archer showed no form at all at either Derby City or Super Billiards Expo.
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These 2 idiots don't know jack about where the players stand. Hatch Morris and Archer are all a bit washed up. None of them have the heart or game to beat Mike. All they can do is flap their gums.
 
2strong4u said:
These 2 idiots don't know jack about where the players stand. Hatch Morris and Archer are all a bit washed up. None of them have the heart or game to beat Mike. All they can do is flap their gums.
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Rodney is a different matter. Actually, Rodney beat Mike at Turning Stone. Rodney's highest gear was last seen at the US Open 10-ball in 2013, in which he rallied from 9-2 behind to beat Orcullo.

Hatch's "A" game, which he most recently showed at the Steinway Classic 10-ball in August in his 2nd place finish, is still very strong, but his average game is not where it was in 2009-10.

Archer hasn't shown really strong form in quite some time, but nobody doubts that on his best day, he has a chance to beat almost anyone.

All three are wonderful players, but Mike Dechaine is a verifiable monster right now, and even the many haters are starting to realize it.
 
sjm said:
The game was made and the bet placed well in advance of the Derby. No weight was involved. When it was time to play, Archer ran. He didn't even ask for weight.
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The truth has no place in the fantasy world these 2 live in. Johnny can't intimidate Mike anymore. It's painfully obvious that he is the underdog.

Who cares if you are a slight underdog? Why don't these guys get some heart and matchup for a few thousand? Surely people would back Archer just to get action. These guys are a big part of why pool is becoming obsolete. They should make agreements to play and get it on. Without action matches and s pro tour this game is dead in the water. Too much apathy from those with the most to lose.
 
CJ Wiley said:
What about against Shane V>? Johnny is certainly past his prime, although pool is a game you can play well into your 60s (Mike Lebron played world class in his mid 60s).
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No one knows "past his prime" better then myself:o. Mike has almost all the pieces to the puzzle and is working on the few he is missing. I think the haters and naysayers are the driving forces for Mike, I look for Mike D to get too Shane's speed or close to it if he gets everything worked out on the mental side.
 
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sjm said:
Not the point. But, seriously, who other than Mike often beats Shane in big spots in US-based tourneys? In recent years, the answer is just about nobody.

Shane is the best American by far. Mike is second best, also by far.
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Well since I'm hearing the USA is going to be holding more Bar Box tournaments you have to throw Sky in there he just double dipped Shane for some pretty big cash and its not the first time ,, I don't think being the number 1 player is out of Sky's reach

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sjm said:
The game was made and the bet placed well in advance of the Derby. No weight was involved. When it was time to play, Archer ran. He didn't even ask for weight.
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If he knew he could not beat Mike then why make the game in the first place? I'm not saying he didn't back out, I don't know, but there is probably more to the story then simply knowing he couldn't win.
 
sjm said:
Bad guess. The last three times he met Mike in a major big table event, Shane lost (2013 Derby City 9-ball, 2014 Derby City 9-ball, 2014 Turning Stone). Shane knows Mike's speed all too well.
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True. But Shane also displays a respect and reverence to the greats that came before him. I'm not saying Shane would believe Johnny would win, but I can't help but feel like he might want to back the old legend. You ever notice how often at a tournament Shane will sit in the stands and sweat Earl's matches? I like this quality about Shane a lot. Respect for the people that went before is an admirable quality that many young guns don't seem to display.

KMRUNOUT
 
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