I was thinking about this safe as well. Being a bit new I wasn't confident in posting it. It seems pretty good to me, but again I come on to "listen" more in these scenarios...
9ball ...decision time
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I was thinking about this safe as well. Being a bit new I wasn't confident in posting it. It seems pretty good to me, but again I come on to "listen" more in these scenarios...
LOL no worries. I've come to realize that Dave/David is a popular name. I work with six other Davids
I also thought of that safe but quickly eliminated that option because of not knowing how the six ball will react with all that power going on. Seems to me that the six is coming out two rails and could destroy the plan. The worse would be if it came back into the cue ball.
I believe more predictable options for safeties are available.
Not hitting it that hard, its a 'soft draw' behind the balls. The line of the 6 should go in front of the 7, and the cb has plenty of time to draw behind the cluster. Im not seeing a kiss there. But like you say, without looking at the shot at the table, it can be difficult to say.
Damn, I must be wrong then...... LOL Just kidding, thats the shot I see too.
Shoot or duck?
I shot.
Made the 2 and 6.
5 stayed in place.
Got good on 3 (cb replaced 6 on rail)
Thot I it it good.:groucho::groucho:
But gave up BIH/LD ruled bad hit(6 first).
...it all happened quickly...Hit shot with some pace to carom cb...needed slo-mo replay:sorry:
Would you guys have played safe? How/where?
Sorry guys...just got home.
Thanks for the responses.
I considered rolling off the 2 soft to get behind the 6, but it was too scratchey at the required slow roll speed.
The back side carom looked real good on the 2, with the natural tickey cb path into the 6. It helped that the 6 was off the rail just a bit. The widened opposite corner pocket for the kicked 2ball, cinched the decision to shoot, as well as the generous shape options on the 3 after the predictable stoppage of the cb by the 6.
It all laid real good. and went smooth until the 'bad hit' call. As mentioned, the 2 went clean in the opposite corner without disturbing the 5.
The cb 'stalled' for just a moment as the 2 started to travel then went down the tickey backside tangent line to pocket the 6, and stayed about where the 6 started.
When I looked at the shot, it didn't look like I could get to the 6 first unless I hit a semi-masse with 3 tips of left english
I hit the cb with center stun at a moderate speed...looking for accuracy and cb movement after the kick-carom.
If I had hit the 6 first, the two would not have gone straight at the pocket, it would have gone wide. And the 2 would not have traveled first, imho.
I think there was just too much going on, in rapid succession for the LD to get the call correct. He stood directly above the 2/6, looking straight down at the two balls...I think it was a blur from that perspective.
Wachagonnado?
thanks for listening to the rant...I never said a word to LD...no point in doing so....the decision had been made...been down this road before..
...it was a face palm moment...lol, I can laugh now, but not then.take care
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I think the kick was the right shot as well, 6 has a good chance to drop and also the 2 in the opposite corner as well with the 5-ball as a sideboard.
Lots of good things can happen here and it sounds like you played it pretty much perfectly but were just a victim of a bad call.
Lots of good things can happen here and it sounds like you played it pretty much perfectly but were just a victim of a bad call.
Well, if you're a trouble-maker sort of person you could send him a link to this thread.:grin-devilish:
But this points out the problem of playing complicated/skillful shots when the official is not strong in his rules/physics interpretation dimension. You might shoot a tough, perfect shot (as the OP seems to be) and have it destroyed by bad help. Sometimes in that situation I shoot an alternative that leaves no room for someone else's mistake.
The call here was particularly remarkable because of the general principle that the ref is supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter.
One thing that might help with shots like these is to say what you're trying to do before you shoot. I think some occasional refs feel they have to call a foul if they are confused by the shot.
The call here was particularly remarkable because of the general principle that the ref is supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter.
One thing that might help with shots like these is to say what you're trying to do before you shoot. I think some occasional refs feel they have to call a foul if they are confused by the shot.
MY bad. I told him that I was kicking behind the 2 ball....I didn't describe the event sequence and result expected.:banghead:
He is a better player than me, I thot he would see/recognize the shot potential...and I thot it would be out of line to walk him thru it...
Oh well...nobody died.:wink::grin-square:
There aren't many shots that I can make 3 times in a row, so should I always play safe
Does your answer change if I tell you that I also wouldn't get safe 3 times in a row? (Or even 1 out of 3 consistently)
I think you got it right. Bad call. No way to hit 6 first. It would have moved 2 away from pocket the way it is shown.
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