Jay Helfert

Teacherman said:
Thank you. Your 'tough table' comment confirms my earlier point about just wanting more than kindergarten pool knowledge. How many balls doubled the pocket, Sat there for a second, and then fell? How many balls rubbed the rail and then fell? How many balls hit outside the facing and then fell?

That is not a tough table. That is a loose table generally caused by slippery new cloth.

I have a room full of Diamonds and my Diamonds acted just like the Mosconi table when they were new but now, after the cloth wears a bit, when you double the pocket or rub the rail the ball will jar up.

Finally, plese take a serious look at what was 'fortunate' and what was skillful.
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You think your smart because you know that new cloth slides. That's Pool 101! When you learn something about the Meta game of pool then you can offer worthwhile criticism. You may not have noticed how often I remark that a player does not look quite right PRIOR to his shot. Something about the way he sets up and gets down is not comfortable and the possibility of him missing is much greater. A players body language is all important but I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Even the conversation between players can be very telling. A player's state of mind is very important to ascertain and recognize. I also have the advantage of seeing and hearing more because I'm physically present here and not watching only what you see on TV.
 
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Once again, there is no counter for your obvious gaffe comments about how tough the table was playing when in fact it was playing loose.

Carry on. Many here support nonsense.
 
Teacherman said:
Thank you. Your 'tough table' comment confirms my earlier point about just wanting more than kindergarten pool knowledge. How many balls doubled the pocket, Sat there for a second, and then fell? How many balls rubbed the rail and then fell? How many balls hit outside the facing and then fell?

That is not a tough table. That is a loose table generally caused by slippery new cloth.

I have a room full of Diamonds and my Diamonds acted just like the Mosconi table when they were new but now, after the cloth wears a bit, when you double the pocket or rub the rail the ball will jar up.

Finally, plese take a serious look at what was 'fortunate' and what was skillful.
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jay helfert said:
You think your smart because you know that new cloth slides. That's Pool 101! When you learn something about the Meta game of pool then you can offer worthwhile criticism. You may not have noticed how often I remark that a player does not look quite right PRIOR to his shot. Something about the way he sets up and gets down is not comfortable and the possibility of him missing is much greater. A players body language is all important but I wouldn't expect you to understand that. I also have the advantage of seeing and hearing more because I'm physically present here and not watching only what you see on TV.
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Standing ovation Mr Helfert.
 
Pockets can be tight and accepting at the same time. It's clear that's the case here.

Give this table a couple more days and it would be brutal.
 
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Teacherman said:
Implosion noted.

You say it's quite hard to make a TV table play tight....YET THAT IS WHAT THE ANNOUNCER WE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT KEPT SAYING...."the table is tight"..when it was obvious the table was playing loose.

Please keep talking.
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So you're entire attack on Helfert & many others is because they disagree with your opinion. It must be tough to live in your world where everyone else is stupid & always wrong. I pity you
 
Teacherman said:
See what i mean.
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I rarely see anything that you mean. Aside from the fact that you seem generally pissed off at life, and have a major superiority complex.

Perhaps you could start a post about how stupid the shirts look for the teams this year? Or how the orange tie that Nigel is wearing doesn't match his socks?
 
Spimp13 said:
+1

All he does is ***** and complain on here from what I have seen over the last few months. He is pretty much a turd in a punch bowl.
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"Pretty much"? He eliminated those two words from that sentence LONG AGO. As I suggested, he should just go yell at kids walking to school. At least he'd get instantaneous gratification.
 
Don't let the facts interfere with your opinions.

Roll the tape. Watch em all

If you want hard quick evidence watch van den Berg v Deuel.

Carry on.
 
Teacherman said:
Once again, there is no counter for your obvious gaffe comments about how tough the table was playing when in fact it was playing loose.

Carry on. Many here support nonsense.
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jay helfert said:
Where Europe is beating us consistently is on defensive play. Their kicking and safety play has been far better than USA overall.
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Europe is winning cause of the break -- Mike D broke dry every rack in his singles match. If he makes one ball on the break, he wins that match.

Neils won cause of the golden break.

Take away those two wins and US is up 8-7.

The US, at first, was trying to cut break, with a slow to medium speed and feather in the one into the side. That was a poor tactic as they are not racking the balls so the rack is being placed at a slightly different spot each time by the referees. This doesn't give you any consistency in your break. And the table has small pockets - makes it even tougher to cut break and play the one in the side. You have to be that more exact. The US then moved to smashing the rack (ie Bergman in his last match). Then what were the results -- oh he broke and ran every rack. Boyes figured it out first, he was pounding it as well.
 
randallt6 said:
you sir (I use that term loosely), are a jackass.
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Not sure why you choose that route, but ok.

Watch the match with Corey and Berg. Watch rack two when Burg sinks the 4 ball down the rail. The ball clearly hits the tit, rattles, and then drops. Try that on ANY diamond table where I play at, and I will be up to shoot the 4 in and shape for the 5.

I think where he was going with "loose" was the fact of playing with new felt. I am not arguing 4.25 inch pockets are easy. I think those are the dimensions of table 14, if I remember correctly. Of course, table 14 is the hardest diamond I have ever played on (Yes, harder than the others for multiple reasons- besides having a deep shelf). Don't take my word for it, ask everyone that shoots there. That includes Benny Z., also.

New felt always makes for a more "forgiving" table initially. I don't understand why it does, as I have not been interested in looking into it. I am guessing it has to do with the coefficient of friction. I will have to wait for "Patrick" to chime in and give his uneducated, educated opinion.

In conclusion, if I read your post right and inferred where you were going, I think you are a bit overboard in your reference to said individual as a "jackass".
 
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