Why has no one beat Mosconi's high run?

Babe Ruth is under rated in my opinion
He was by far the best hitter to ever live and possibly the best pitcher
 
So,... how many other Home run leaders have TWO World Series wins as a PITCHER?

Dale

He played against a bunch of nonathletic white dudes. Sorry if he was your childhood idol or something, but he would NOT be an all star in today's league.
 
Interesting twist of the thread.
I do believe that we people tend to complicate things.
So, "Why has no one beat Mosconi's high run?"
Simply because nobody can... At least up to now as we know.
So, until someone comes along who will actually do it, we should just accept that fact and move along.
Happy new year to all az members!!
Petros
 
He played against a bunch of nonathletic white dudes. Sorry if he was your childhood idol or something, but he would NOT be an all star in today's league.

And he was the absolute best of them. Just imagine if he was in shape and took care of himself like todays premier athletes. Off the charts.
Last post, back to Mosconi.
 
There is no record for balls pocketed on consecutive evenings without a miss, unless possibly if the balls were left on the table untouched. I think a high run in pool has to be done with common sense breaks for bathroom or a drink, for example.

Yes, that is what I said.

I think you are starting to appreciate the problem, at least as it pertains to Mosconi. He really did run 100 balls and stop every time during exhibitions. You have no other data because, at best, tournament results are only tangentially related to exhibition play. So all we have theoretically is exhibition runs. All of them are 100. All of them stop at 100 unfinished.

Except the one where he kept going... I understand the problem with long runs quite well, I have mentioned all of these things previously in this thread.

At least with the boson it was possible to formulate a strategy to find it.

You think so? So tell me what the strategy should be for finding dark energy. The strategy for finding long runs has been given many times already in this thread.

How are you going to predict the high run of a guy who only does 100 and outs? :grin:

Absolutely trivial. His high run will be 100.

Thank You Kindly.
 
Could be that OCD is a form of dark energy. Plenty of it available for study hereabouts.

Arnaldo
 
Interesting twist of the thread.
I do believe that we people tend to complicate things.
So, "Why has no one beat Mosconi's high run?"
Simply because nobody can... At least up to now as we know.
So, until someone comes along who will actually do it, we should just accept that fact and move along.
Happy new year to all az members!!
Petros

No the actual answer is because no one has, officially with whatever would satisfy the record keepers. We don't know that no one can.

I think we have many who could.
 
I think the aiming forum has some kind of force field around it that turns people nuts. Outside that forum the same people are perfectly normal. :wink:

I guess that would apply equally to EVERYONE who participates there then.
 
My personal theory about balls seeming to skid more nowadays involves the advent of newer "sticky" chalk, which leaves more chalk on the CB, and the use of uber hard break cue tips that abrade the surface of the CB and may also be a source of increased friction.

We all have our pet theories, but it's nice to show the data to support them.;)

In Dr. Dave's video about throw and cling effects, he actually roughens up the CB and OB contact areas with sandpaper (time = 10:50), and there is negligible effect on OB throw due to this treatment. Even adding chalk to these areas has little effect on throw. In fact, the greatest throw effect seems to come from perfectly clean balls (cleaned with solvent) with nothing on them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_taEBDVQBYQ

These observations would seem to support the modern molecular theory of friction as opposed to the "geared tooth" explanation we were all taught in high school physics. Experiments have show that for many materials the friction is actually greater for two smooth surfaces because there are more molecular interactions than there are with rough surfaces. The "peaks" of the rougher surfaces prevent the large areas of material in the "valleys" from touching, so there is less molecular attraction occurring, and therefore, less friction.

As far as "sticky" chalk being a contributing factor, I don't use it at all and I still get bad skids on occasion. I have noticed that chalk sticks to my Centennials a lot more after I polish them with the Aramith cleaner. My own personal theory about this is that the chalk gets embedded into the wax coating that the cleaner leaves behind.

When I use the Novus #2 plastic cleaner (no wax), the balls stay clean for a long time, and chalk either refuses to adhere to the CB, or easily wipes off with a clean cotton cloth when it does adhere. I see no reason to add wax to make balls shinier, it's all about playability to me, not looks. Who knows? Maybe all those trips to the ball polisher are actually ending more high runs than they are supposedly aiding.
 
No the actual answer is because no one has, officially with whatever would satisfy the record keepers. We don't know that no one can.

I think we have many who could.

It is obvious that no one has, the question is why...
Although both approaches are indeed hypothetical (can anyone or not?), the negative approach is the one that actually still stands until proven otherwise.
This is my # 1500 post.. :)
Happy new year John!!
Petros
 
Well ----

I am not a huge John Schmidt fan, but isn't he the best in the US? Isnt he Mr. 400?

I am not trying to be a smartass, but I would like to hear his opinion. I know Danny Harriman is a huge 14.1 fan and player. While they truly hate each other, I would love for either of them to break that record once and for all.

Is there anyone on the forum that is close friends with either that could have them give their opinion?

If there are better US players than those guys, excuse me, no offense intended.

Thanks,

Ken
 
No, all 15 never existed, and no.

What warehouse is it that you mentioned?

I just asked my father about this and he has only a little recollection about it. He said that it was either Mosconi's wife who told him, or it was someone else who knew Mosconi's wife, but the information came from her. She said that archival material was in the possession of Brunswick and the material was kept in a warehouse that burned down, destroying everything.

Again, my father was a little fuzzy about how he came across the information, but is was a personal communication. The internet did not exist back then. He was 100% sure that this is the story he was told.

I'd be interested to hear if there is more detail on the incident. I'm sure Brunswick must know something about it.
 
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