Cue Joints - Pins and Threads

Yeah, I just can't get past the idea of repeatedly screwing/unscrewing metal into wood threads.

Get passed it. This has been a tried and true method for 40 years. If you feel you would "chew up the wood," then get the radial pin, which doesn't have threads that could possibly cut the shaft threads.
 
Ok, so just by way of follow-up...

I had pretty much decided I needed to just get over it and recognize that this is a standard configuration and I'm just being irrational, LOL.

I spoke with Steve Lomax, whom I've been talking to about a new cue, about both inserts and the modified 3/8x10 -- I figured I'd at least want the modified pin if I could get it. Steve said he could do inserts if I wanted, but he always uses the modified pin in his cues now, and says it's much better than the traditional pin.

So I'm convinced to go with the modified pin. And just paid my deposit on a new Lomax. Can't wait to get it!

Thanks again all for the advice!
 
Joey...You already know this, and Rick doesn't know that your comment was a bit sarcastic. LOL. When Joe Gold's original patent on the G-10 pin expired all the supply companies (Atlas, Mueller, etc) started selling G-10 pins to other cuemakers. Some had their own designs made. Now they've expanded the material into tips and other uses. English just failed to mention that the G-10 pin is an OPTION, and not standard on any Meucci cue.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Meucci uses G10?
 
Freddie...I'm almost positive that Joe Gold was, if not the first, certainly a pioneer in building cues with a G-10 pin. I know he had his own pin designed, and got a patent on it, which lasted for 10 or 20 years. I also know of no Cognoscenti cues where the G-10 pin "chewed up" the wood threads on the shafts. Maybe it happens with other cuemakers, but it doesn't seem to be a problem with Cognoscentis. Personally I love the look, feel and hit of a G-10 pin, and am having one put into my new Kent Davis cue.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Honestly, as an assembly engineer and not a cuemaker, I don't know why any cuemaker would use G10 either. It's a pretty aggressive material. I think whoever used it first just did so because he had some lying around, and others followed suit. Of all the wonderful composites and plastics to use, G-x wouldn't even be on my radar if I were to screw something directly into wood.

Freddie <~~~ but then again, what would I know?
 
Freddie...I'm almost positive that Joe Gold was, if not the first, certainly a pioneer in building cues with a G-10 pin. I know he had his own pin designed, and got a patent on it, which lasted for 10 or 20 years. I also know of no Cognoscenti cues where the G-10 pin "chewed up" the wood threads on the shafts. Maybe it happens with other cuemakers, but it doesn't seem to be a problem with Cognoscentis. Personally I love the look, feel and hit of a G-10 pin, and am having one put into my new Kent Davis cue.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

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He was the first .
He made it famous.
 
Joe himself told me that at the time that he was the only living human that had been approved to be allowed to buy it directly from NASA. Maybe that was true,maybe it wasn't :grin-square: but I have no reason to doubt it.

Keep in mind his pin is not the typical 3/8 diameter. I've never seen anything other than a Cog with that 7/16-11 pin. He used to offer it in surgical Ti but considered it a downgrade and charged an extra 100 for it.

That was long enough ago you could get a PJ for 700 with 2 ivory ferruled shafts,they were 550 when the brochure first came out. Tommy D.
 
To correct re Mezz Cues. I just got an new AXI-606 with with both the Mezz W-700 and hybrid pro 2 shafts.

My reading on it seems to point that it does not have a 3/8 x10. I have the wavy joint as opposed to the united joint on my Mezz PBreak 2.

The Mezz wavy joint is flat faced wood to wood, and utilizes a proprietary 3/8 x 9 joint. Just clarifying... Hope this does not confuse you more.
 
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