Kids aren't interested in a game they can't play until they're 21...just saying
Why pool is different !!!
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Kids aren't interested in a game they can't play until they're 21...just saying
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A lot of you are confusing the BCA with the BCAPL (CSI). They have been two totally different and independent organizations for over 10 years now.
I have no opinion of the BCA nor its governing ability. However, the BCAPL has done nothing but improve the sport for its players. The BCAPL rules are by far the best and most comprehensive rules set out there. The BCAPL Nationals are the world's best amateur tournaments. And parent company CSI has helped promote the best thing to hit pool in decades, Fargo ratings.
A lot of you are confusing the BCA with the BCAPL (CSI). They have been two totally different and independent organizations for over 10 years now.
I have no opinion of the BCA nor its governing ability. However, the BCAPL has done nothing but improve the sport for its players. The BCAPL rules are by far the best and most comprehensive rules set out there. The BCAPL Nationals are the world's best amateur tournaments. And parent company CSI has helped promote the best thing to hit pool in decades, Fargo ratings.
To the OP, I think you mean to substitute "individual" and "team" for "competitive" and "non-competitive." Just because golf pros are playing against the course doesn't mean that they are not competitive nor are they not trying to make it under the "cut" for a given tournament. I understand what you are saying, however, and I agree with your point.
Snooker, aside from being a great, classic game coupled with a loyal following and tradition, also benefits from the fact that you can legally wager on it. If pool could find a way to follow same (and avoid match fixing and shenanigans), it would enjoy a boost as well.
In a few months there will be a Supreme Court hearing in NJ that will shape the future of online sports wagering for the state. I'm interested what the outcome will be and if it succeeds, what it can mean for the game of pool.
Snooker, aside from being a great, classic game coupled with a loyal following and tradition, also benefits from the fact that you can legally wager on it. If pool could find a way to follow same (and avoid match fixing and shenanigans), it would enjoy a boost as well.
In a few months there will be a Supreme Court hearing in NJ that will shape the future of online sports wagering for the state. I'm interested what the outcome will be and if it succeeds, what it can mean for the game of pool.
This has always been a big problem, even more so now..The kids today all have their own smart phones, and video games, and spend the majority of their time texting, etc.! Very few have ever even been exposed to pool!.. By the time they are 21, they have no desire to learn anything that may take a few years to excel at...Until that somehow changes, I'm afraid pool will continue its descent into oblivion...Until the BCA recognizes that fact, and does something constructive about it, there will soon be no pool industry for them to support!
Love your post!
Pool leagues handicap systems is part of the problem, lower the efing standards so they don't get their feelings hurt, give me break. Let them learn the same way we did. Every other league has their own rules, what's the deal, why can't we all go by the same set of rules. People can touch balls and not be penalized, just put it back, ha ha, that's a foul! they don't get better because they don't follow professional rules.
Those cyclops balls, should be illegal to own them, but no, TV executives decided that part, who am I playing with? Barbie and Kent?
We all know pool is dying little by little, 7 ball matches, 7' tables and rules all over the place with no governing body, well said, long live Snooker, on top of that, because of how it is, they make millions of squids.
Yes, Kevin Trudeau founded the IPT, and based its success on being able to wager on pool games!..The decent sized prize money, brought pool back to life for a while!..Con man and thief that he was, he almost pulled it off until the government passed laws prohibiting online gambling, etc! ..Most states allow wagering on games of skill, between two consenting adults..The side action, (wagering on the games) has always been a gray area..It will be interesting to see what NJ comes up with.
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It would help if pool were a sanctioned high school activity.
But the real reason pool is different? Barriers to entry. I can't think of another game which requires a piece of furniture costing hundreds or thousands of dollars in order to practice.
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I hear you, but...
I saw a video of young, non USA, children 'playing' on a piece of plywood with discs...
&... you could see them putting english on the discs.
When there is a WILL... there is a way.
But I get your point.
PS..Snooker has not always been without its attempts at match fixing..The governing body placed the penalties for it so severe, plus the size of their purses, made it very foolish for any player to want to try it!
Bowling lanes cost than more pool tables.
hummm get the youth involved.....sounds pretty interesting....
quite a few people just on this very thread mentioned this.......
must be some crazy new completely novel idea, because I'm sure if people really believed that I probably would have at least gotten a 50cent cube of chalk mailed to me for an extra 47 cents for postage.....instead i hear "very interesting" and a fella whom at first was offering some drill sheets or something like a million of us all have on here.....wanted to sell me a book, probably hoping I'd buy a small case of them......i got enough technical books, novels and things such as that to break a mules back....
9th ranked public school in the country, #1 rated teachers.
They had two 7 footers that are basically unplayable......i gave them this and installed it, mint 69 gandy big G snooker table, only thing I havent done yet is polish the end chrome caps, that was the second weekend up there i took that pic right bf i hung the light....picked up a 4/6/8" machinist levels (starett) just so i could be sure of my work because I dont do hack work and they sure dont give those dam levels away lol....and been going up there almost every weekend (2hrs away) for a couple months or so now. Spent close to a grand on video equipment and other stuff. Building all the cues, because I cant just afford to go buy a bunch of new junk, when i got better things to spend my money on for them.
they were not shooting at all obviously, now they loving the snooker table and forgetting about ping pong. Trust me kids like to play pool they just rarely have a chance, and normally when they do young its usually on some sorry excuse for "equipment". I've seen strict gamer nerds that do jack else, not even worry about my shelf with NES, PS3, WII, SNES, XBOX all stacked right in front their face and just lose sense of space and time screwing about on the green monster.
Made a couple threads and everything on here and FB......
Whats needed the most right now is some dare should I say FELT at least for the BB's and even the cheapest rails would suffice as well....for two 7 ft valleys that are just worn out....change that tables will be great.....I got full support from faculty and some locals.....
wondering about everyones talk on here for the past oh i dont know around the past 11 years give or take.....
the longer i keep doing this alone.....the more nitty people on here become....and I'm not talking about showing up and giving some lessons and such....i got people already in on that, some pretty snazzy instructors and a few pretty solid to very very good players.
But you cant play pool without the right equipment....till then they will get snooker.....piss me off enough and I'm going to burn both those valleys in the parking lot and install a 10' pool table because im a dick and stubborn like that and itll be snooker one hole banks and 14.1 untill i get some plugs made and we can play billiards and balkline as well because when i talk about this I call it a billiards program, and when they build the new building thats going to cost millions in two years, by that time I'll have everything I or they could possibly want, and its all going to have its own space there too just like it does now......In the dorms where they have access at all times, with a flat screen just like you see in the pic....that i moved center up on the table, and gave them a chromecast so they can film themselves live and cast and watch how their alignment is live and refrence videos and my lessons to work out when I'm not there day to day....so they learn right, without the BS....or being drunk in a bar playing on a toy with fake rules in some league where a bunch of people learn to sandbag so their team dont get split
at least make an excuse...you know your dog got sick and moneys tight to spare a buck, much less spreading it out b/t the lot of us on here.
I'd rather not take all the credit at the end of the day.....or maybe I'm just blind and I'm actually an ass clown no one trusts on here? Stranger things have happened......
thats all i have to say about that
-Keeb
quite a few people just on this very thread mentioned this.......
must be some crazy new completely novel idea, because I'm sure if people really believed that I probably would have at least gotten a 50cent cube of chalk mailed to me for an extra 47 cents for postage.....instead i hear "very interesting" and a fella whom at first was offering some drill sheets or something like a million of us all have on here.....wanted to sell me a book, probably hoping I'd buy a small case of them......i got enough technical books, novels and things such as that to break a mules back....
9th ranked public school in the country, #1 rated teachers.
They had two 7 footers that are basically unplayable......i gave them this and installed it, mint 69 gandy big G snooker table, only thing I havent done yet is polish the end chrome caps, that was the second weekend up there i took that pic right bf i hung the light....picked up a 4/6/8" machinist levels (starett) just so i could be sure of my work because I dont do hack work and they sure dont give those dam levels away lol....and been going up there almost every weekend (2hrs away) for a couple months or so now. Spent close to a grand on video equipment and other stuff. Building all the cues, because I cant just afford to go buy a bunch of new junk, when i got better things to spend my money on for them.
they were not shooting at all obviously, now they loving the snooker table and forgetting about ping pong. Trust me kids like to play pool they just rarely have a chance, and normally when they do young its usually on some sorry excuse for "equipment". I've seen strict gamer nerds that do jack else, not even worry about my shelf with NES, PS3, WII, SNES, XBOX all stacked right in front their face and just lose sense of space and time screwing about on the green monster.
Made a couple threads and everything on here and FB......
Whats needed the most right now is some dare should I say FELT at least for the BB's and even the cheapest rails would suffice as well....for two 7 ft valleys that are just worn out....change that tables will be great.....I got full support from faculty and some locals.....
wondering about everyones talk on here for the past oh i dont know around the past 11 years give or take.....
the longer i keep doing this alone.....the more nitty people on here become....and I'm not talking about showing up and giving some lessons and such....i got people already in on that, some pretty snazzy instructors and a few pretty solid to very very good players.
But you cant play pool without the right equipment....till then they will get snooker.....piss me off enough and I'm going to burn both those valleys in the parking lot and install a 10' pool table because im a dick and stubborn like that and itll be snooker one hole banks and 14.1 untill i get some plugs made and we can play billiards and balkline as well because when i talk about this I call it a billiards program, and when they build the new building thats going to cost millions in two years, by that time I'll have everything I or they could possibly want, and its all going to have its own space there too just like it does now......In the dorms where they have access at all times, with a flat screen just like you see in the pic....that i moved center up on the table, and gave them a chromecast so they can film themselves live and cast and watch how their alignment is live and refrence videos and my lessons to work out when I'm not there day to day....so they learn right, without the BS....or being drunk in a bar playing on a toy with fake rules in some league where a bunch of people learn to sandbag so their team dont get split
at least make an excuse...you know your dog got sick and moneys tight to spare a buck, much less spreading it out b/t the lot of us on here.
I'd rather not take all the credit at the end of the day.....or maybe I'm just blind and I'm actually an ass clown no one trusts on here? Stranger things have happened......
thats all i have to say about that
-Keeb
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The reasons for pool going down the drain are many but this is what will be the big killer eventually. I dont see any way to stop it. The cost to market to the younger demographic is ridiculous because you are competing with everyone else on earth for their attention.
If every pool room in the country let kids play free it wouldnt make a dent. Kids dont WANT to play. They dont even play baseball anymore. They live online and do things that look cool when they post it on the facetwitter. No one wants to be a 9 Ball World Champion they want to be a social media star or play the newest video game.
Add in the stigma of pool where most parents wouldnt let their kid even walk in a pool room and I don't blame them a bit. Many of us that love the game were drawn as much to the lifestyle/dark side of the game as anything when we were teenagers. Almost everyone I know in the pro world fits that mold. All those kind of kids today are playing poker/fantasy sports in their bedrooms.
Pool will find its own level in this country and that level is going to be on tiny tables in bars and as furniture in McMansions to be dusted off a couple times a year. In a decade there won't even be a "pro" tournament thats not held in a pool room. Pool will never die but it sure as hell isn't going to grow from where we are now, no matter what the next big idea is because of the simple reason it bores the sh!t out of 99.9% of the people in this country.
We are living through a paradigm shift. Pool is the horse and buggy and its the early 1900's. It would be awesome if I was totally wrong but I don't see any indicators pointing the other way.
Wrong..Thats why God created 'alternate break'!
I only play in Alternate Break Race to 1 tournaments.
Of course it is but their format is better by far. The Eurotour is pretty well organized, so much so that several European companies have pool fall under their Olympic committee.
You hit the nail on the head. I have a pool table in my home, and my son wants no part of it. He loves baseball, he loves karate, he loves track. He does not like pool. Oh, occasionally he will play some 8ball with me, he likes it for about 30 minutes and he's kinda done with it.
Though, he's got a couple of friends that come over and want to "try" pool, and they play a few games once in a blue moon... so who knows down the road, but at 16, between video games, girls, internet, Utube and other sports, it's a tough competition.
Online gaming has won over kids and adults. I have several 30yr old coworkers who spends probably 20+ hrs a week playing online games(worlds of warcraft, etc) . They all played a lot of pool during college and would be low level C players. Pool really dont interest them much anymore.
I might be able to get them out to the pool hall a couple times a yr.
I might be able to get them out to the pool hall a couple times a yr.