justinb386
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Curious if they were playing 8 ball or 9 ball?
Most racks ever run on a Valley bar box
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Curious if they were playing 8 ball or 9 ball?
I think having 605 balls on the table would make it quite a bit more difficult :grin:
justinb386
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Hey PT, you are not going to believe this, but I got to DCC, and could not remember your user name on here (remembered the pt part, but not the rest, lol). I tried searching for my own thread I created, and could not find it, lol. My phone will not allow me to do a search on this site, so had to try to manually browse through the threads (trying to find my own thread), and I gave up. I just ended up talking to the guy that checks the tickets at the door for awhile (he was really nice). He told me that his brother owned Diamond (I think that is what he said). I was so shy and nervous while there. I was not brave enough to try to say hi (or anything) to any of my favorite players that I seen walk by me. Those guys are like gods to me (feel like I am not worthy to have any of their attention). I was just in awe while there. Was only there for about 5 hours, but was still a great experience. I so regret not being able to PM you, and wish I had done that before I left home, or the night before. Would have loved to have met Alex P (even though I would have been so nervous, that I would have been speechless in his presence). Anyways, it will be one of my many lifetime regrets, if I never make it back to DCC again. Anyway, would love to take you up on your offer again, if I can make it there next year. Hopefully I can get over my shyness someday. By the way, I could only get to DCC on that one day (an a Wednesday), because that was the only day that the Casino bus could get me there (because I had no other way to get there, other then by Taxi). I really regret not staying longer that day. Wish I would have stayed as long as I could stay awake, and then got a taxi back to Louisville (where I live). Being around all of those celebrity pro's just made me really nervous, lol. It was a really interesting experience though, even though I did not stay that long.
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What's not to believe? After you make a ball on the break you usually have 2 or 3 balls nearby to break any clusters. It's not that difficult a game on a Valley. There's really no tough shots compared to a 9 foot. There's a lot to know about the right way to plan a runout. I think anybody who shoots strong big table rotation is apt to run 10 or more racks of 8 ball on a bar box.
My high run in 9 ball on a big table is 7. A much tougher feat because you have to break, make a ball and get on the 1 ball. At the time I was playing real strong and practicing my break several hours a week. It was scary how on I was then.
Undocumented records will never be able to be beaten, even by the best players in the world today. All these 15-20 pack runners should without a problem, be able to spot SVB weight in a race to 20 playing bar box 8 ball. Everyone runs rack when no one is around to count them. Hell, I've even ran 7 racks of 8 ball on a GC3, Stevens cloth, not Simonis....in a race to 20 against Harry Plattis' years ago, plenty of witnesses too, as we all pooled our money together to play Harry for $5,000, $10,000 on the light. But you guys, with these 12,.15, 20+ runs on bar tables act like it's just a walk in the park....just shooting good one day....and out ran the Sun!!! Yep, everyone's a world beater....until they meet the real world that is, and wake up and realize it was just a dream!
Plenty of shortstops have beat svb in bar table 8 ball tournaments and plenty have runs over 10. Doesnt mean they play even.
On a day when you are running out a rack of 8 ball 70 percent of the time you have a 1.9 percent chance of a 12 pack. Something that is attainable. We are talking a Valley bar box.
Ever play 8 ball and just look at the table and know a guy is out? It's not that tough a game.
Don't really care if you believe it or not. Actually it's better you don't believe it.
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Hippie Jimmy Reid was an unbelievably great 8 ball bar box player - in his prime Valley was the table - I have no idea how many racks in a row, but he could hit the big ball better than anyone I have ever known.
He once told me he went over 3 years without missing a shot on a bar box -- who knows, but man was he GOOOOOOOOOOOD !!!
He once told me he went over 3 years without missing a shot on a bar box -- who knows, but man was he GOOOOOOOOOOOD !!!
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8-ball...Bobby, in my opinion, had a period where he was the best bar box 8-baller.
....and he had a ton of gamble.
As did Keith, not to many chased him for action on a bar box:thumbup:
The shorter the race, the better the chance anyone can win. And if plenty have ran 10+ racks in tournaments....there'd be a lot more proof of that
Every break is a game decider, as to whether or not the rack is runnable or not, or if you can force the run with breakout position play....but I guarantee you, not all racks are runnable. Looking at a runnable rack, and making it happen is the difference between YOU sitting on the sidelines playing that game, vs the person actually AT the table....as God already knows.....spectators...NEVER miss a shot!!!!
[QUO TE=Agent 99;5511439]Hippie Jimmy Reid was an unbelievably great 8 ball bar box player - in his prime Valley was the table - I have no idea how many racks in a row, but he could hit the big ball better than anyone I have ever known.
He once told me he went over 3 years without missing a shot on a bar box -- who knows, but man was he GOOOOOOOOOOOD !!![/QUOTE]
I've heard tales that Paul Bunyan had an Ox that was blue, so he named it Blue. And that his ax was so big, he could cut down 10 Fir trees with a single swing. Well, being somewhat an educated man, I have to call BS when I hear it.....there's NO such thing as a BLUE Ox!!!!!
He once told me he went over 3 years without missing a shot on a bar box -- who knows, but man was he GOOOOOOOOOOOD !!![/QUOTE]
I've heard tales that Paul Bunyan had an Ox that was blue, so he named it Blue. And that his ax was so big, he could cut down 10 Fir trees with a single swing. Well, being somewhat an educated man, I have to call BS when I hear it.....there's NO such thing as a BLUE Ox!!!!!
RKC....for a guy who thinks he knows it all ....you don't know much. What tournament plays long race winner breaks on a Valley bar box? If there were regular events playing race to 16 or more there would be some very large packs run. Before you know it somebody would run out the set.
I'm all for long races and single elimination events, then the league players might actually gain some insight as to where they really stack up against the Pro's.
OH NO! Not this again! Lol
PT - yup Bobby Leggs was a bad, bad man! He was in my area for years before he headed out west. He was generally regarded as the best bar box player whole time he was here.
AF Guy - Yup that's the one thanks
Well, Justin, if you're going to meet one pro, Alex should be the one.
A friend of mine watched Alex make his way through a crowd after a match...many people were congratulating or asking him questions.....
....he ignored no one...no superstar act here, he genuinely likes people.
You talk to Alex for two minutes, you'll forget you're shy.
Lol, he owned The Little Track way before my time and it was tore down within the past year or so. Always hated that place it seemed like a basement but was a ground floor.
That rings a bell....I was only in the place once....good thing I didn't play much bar box...
....I was with a friend of his...we came for some info which he gave....
....met him in about 7 cities after that...we would help each other out.
...so the town was Lafayette?
In "The Decider" 8-Ball match,
- Shane had 16 B&R games in 30 breaks, for 53%. He had one 8-pack (to end the match), one 2-pack, and 6 singles.
- Earl had 8 B&R games in 22 breaks, for 36%. He had one 4-pack, one 2-pack, and two singles.
- Both players combined: 24 in 52 breaks = 46%.
Some stats for all 3 of their sets in that match (9-Ball, 8-Ball, 10-Ball) can be found here: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=4291928&postcount=123