Ivory substitute?

You might consider efforlyn.......or aesbestos free Micarta....Dustry is right about no equivalent substitute for ivory.
 
Juma is pretty close.

All the best,
WW

Not even close.
Staghorn or buckhorn are the closest.
The tool bits and router blades will tell you that.
Juma cuts like plastic.
Juma and Elforyn are the same except color and grains.
 
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Not even close.
Staghorn or buckhorn are the closest.
The tool bits and router blades will tell you that.
Juma cuts like plastic.
Juma and Elforyn are the same except color and grains.

I like how horn plays....
 
Glad to give Tim a chuckle......oops....Elforyn........

After all, if it isn't genuine ivory, then my interest in whatever it might be....even the spelling...is basically zilch.

Fortunately, my new cues arrive with the genuine stuff in <2 wks. & there's no mistaking ivory for anything else.
 
Not even close.
Staghorn or buckhorn are the closest.
The tool bits and router blades will tell you that.
Juma cuts like plastic.
Juma and Elforyn are the same except color and grains.

Thank you for responding to my post, but the gentleman did ask about the playability of a material, not how it cuts with tool bits and router blades.

Juma does play a bit softer than ivory, but the hit is close. I assume that's what the gentleman was looking for, though other natural materials may be closer.

All the best,
WW
 
Joint ferrule knowledge

Thank you for responding to my post, but the gentleman did ask about the playability of a material, not how it cuts with tool bits and router blades.

Juma does play a bit softer than ivory, but the hit is close. I assume that's what the gentleman was looking for, though other natural materials may be closer.

All the best,
WW


Hi
I don't know if you know this or not but Joey did work in Terry Zylr's custom cue shop.

Terry Zeiler knew more about ferrule and joint material then anyone in the industry.

Look it up, Terry Zeiler sold cue parts for a decade or two until the fumes from CA finish killed him ......
And or breathing deer horn dust..............................

Anyway I was reading the thread and thought I would share that info with you.
 
Thanks for the info Mike. Here's my ferrule use experience starting in 1970:

Ivory.
The old "Lucite," used mostly in the 70s.
White fiber.
The original Implex. (Usually butt caps, but we tried a couple ferrules.
ABS Plastic.
Ivorine 3.
Ivorine 4.
Aegis.
Juma.
Melamine.

This is the general forum and the question was on playability. I used the comparison of the above materials for an opinion. Hopefully polite opinions are welcome.

All the best,
WW
 
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Thank you for responding to my post, but the gentleman did ask about the playability of a material, not how it cuts with tool bits and router blades. how a material tools in the machine is closer related to the hit than you think...

Juma does play a bit softer than ivory, but the hit is close. I assume that's what the gentleman was looking for, though other natural materials may be closer.

All the best,
WW

maybe joey will have some thoughts on this, thats just my opinion thati stated but something i believe pretty strongly
 
maybe joey will have some thoughts on this, thats just my opinion thati stated but something i believe pretty strongly

Juma ribbons when cut as you know. It is also much softer than ivory.
Closest to ivory for a synthetic is melamine.
Heavy, hard and pingy.
Very hard on the cutters and powders when cut.
 
Thanks for the responses. Getting a joint put on my cue that will be a solid material connection. The maker swears by ivory. To be honest I can't afford it.
 
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Looking for a substitute close to ivory's hit. Heard through gina cues elk horn is the closest. Was called poor man's ivory back in the day lol.
 
Thanks for the info Mike. Here's my ferrule use experience starting in 1970:

Ivory.
The old "Lucite," used mostly in the 70s.
White fiber.
The original Implex. (Usually butt caps, but we tried a couple ferrules.
ABS Plastic.
Ivorine 3.
Ivorine 4.
Aegis.
Juma.
Melamine.

This is the general forum and the question was on playability. I used the comparison of the above materials for an opinion. Hopefully polite opinions are welcome.

All the best,
WW

You did this as a cue maker or a player ?

I have put on a few ferrules too.. but I have never gone nuts doing that to my own playing cue and I have 4 shafts for my main player.
I have replaced one ferrule .

The true test would have to be on the same shaft and I haven't disliked my main shafts to the point I am willing to changing tips ferrules on a weekly basis.

I have a ivorine 3 on 2 shafts 2 melamine ferrules on
 
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