Side pocket break shot wwyd
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Steve Kurrs 50 run on video he happens into a position similar to this and makes it and breaks open very nicely
I saw it on blackjacks evaluation of the vid on YouTube
I saw it on blackjacks evaluation of the vid on YouTube
absolutely 100% play it.
you're going to clip the top 2 balls, depending on exact angle, i might hit center ball if it looks like it would skip too lightly off the top, but if you overdo that you can stick to the side of the pack pretty easily.
it's a great breakshot, hard to get stuck without a shot unless you let the white one go wild.
you're going to clip the top 2 balls, depending on exact angle, i might hit center ball if it looks like it would skip too lightly off the top, but if you overdo that you can stick to the side of the pack pretty easily.
it's a great breakshot, hard to get stuck without a shot unless you let the white one go wild.
If I'm going to hit about a third of the 2 ball, I'll try following to the side rail and out. It depends on the exact angle I can get to the rack.
I was afraid of scratching in closest bottom corner pocket, so I stayed away from center ball. Who else think that option looks risky?
Maybe the camera angle is throwing me off, but it looks to me like the scratch you need to watch out for is the side.
8Thought this might generate a little more discussion.
Here is result of break shot. Diamond table pro cut pockets. Live
Red label rails.
I used topright and put a pretty good stroke on the ball as I was trying to hit the 2 full. I glanced off the top of the 2 so thin I went off the 5 and back across. Great spread,no shot.Notice there is no easy safety either.That's 14.1 right.
Here is result of break shot. Diamond table pro cut pockets. Live
Red label rails.
I used topright and put a pretty good stroke on the ball as I was trying to hit the 2 full. I glanced off the top of the 2 so thin I went off the 5 and back across. Great spread,no shot.Notice there is no easy safety either.That's 14.1 right.
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Looks like the 7 goes. Also looks like the 4 might be wired to carom off the 9 and knock in the 3, but no way to know for sure without seeing it in person. The angle even looks pretty good to do 10/9/3...that really doesn't look so bad.
But it always amazes me how often you end up with 14 balls on the table, nothing is touching, and there's still not a decent shot to be found. You'd think it's almost impossible.
But it always amazes me how often you end up with 14 balls on the table, nothing is touching, and there's still not a decent shot to be found. You'd think it's almost impossible.
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Did somebody mention my name ??? Lol and that's Steve Kurtz lol all good, very often misspelled
I remember my shot well in that video, that video the whole run was a struggle, but I feel from the review that David had done for me I have learned so much.
My side pocket break although was not quite like what was setup in this post, I was quite fortunate to come up with a shot afterwards. My breakball was much higher that picture I had to draw and slide off the top of the rack. Again I feel I got lucky to continue. I did nothing to really damage the rack on the break. But as shown all you need is that one lead ball to get you started after a break.
Here's the link to the video analysis that David did for me.
https://youtu.be/UiBfKo85z4g
Steve
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Think I'd just thin the 13-ball on its right side and bring the CB back close to where it started. Just make sure to not go so far as to leave a shot on the 11-ball (or 7, if it goes).
I think on this shot if I'm seeing it correctly I would follow into the top portion of the rack and hope to follow through them knowing that the opposite side of the rack is where my next shots are coming from.
One key thing to remember especially in shots like this is how the speed of the shot effects the path of the cue ball. Again if I'm seeing this correct a strong force follow shot may deflect the cue ball more and cause the cue ball to hit more directly into the middle of the side of the rack and you would have to gamble on being lucky having a shot on this side of the rack while most likely being frozen to a cluster of balls.
I recommend to everyone to practice follow shots to see how speed effects the path of the cueball after contact with the object ball.
Steve
I dont Have Mosconi's cueball so I didnt feel I could "Power thru" the stack. More speed more deflection,from collision as well as striking the cue ball.Hit the stack with high and you may well scratch-ala the bicycle,or macinegun,trickshot.
I wasn't saying you have to power through them, it appears to me if you play the ball to the right side of the side pocket you should be able to catch the top half of the top ball in the stack which is a weak spot of the rack from there and should be able to follow through them.
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This, unless I was on a high run, then I might go for something more aggressive.
Edit: On second thought, that shot looks like you would be stretching or at least standing uncomfortably as a right handed player. It might be tough to control the hit/speed. This shot takes good execution, or you'll almost certainly leave a shot on either the 13, the 11 or the 7. This is probably a situation where you would be better off taking a foul. A left handed player could consider the first option.
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Good observation about the reach. Ball is frozen so it may be tougher also. When I missed cueball Came back to almost same spot and still no shot.I then tried the carom on the 1. Missed that also! Started a fresh rack.
Try it a few times. Make sure you have a level stroke because if you are shooting down on the cue ball it has a tendency to bounce and not retain the follow English. High cue ball, level stroke.