Big truck

lets get something straight!

Big Truck has commentators that are coming in to work his broadcast. He has Efren flown in from Philippines for a series of events. He has cost associated with his production and is smart enough to secure an agreement with the pool room to be there broadcasting.

Someone whips out their equipment and tries to broadcast at the same venue and same time as his broadcast and he is the bad guy???

Most certainly not! I have seen flyers and advertisements on AZBilliards, facebook and Etc. for months from Big Turck! But, nothing from crazy erica! Nothing!!!!

So, when you try and ride the wave of his "Marketing efforts" do no marketing yourself and piss the guy off when nicely confronted! I am certain things can easily get out of hand.

Why neither Big Truck or crazy erica went to the owner and had him/her clear it up is the big mystery to me??? Maybe out of town?

KD

It's worth noting that there was speculation in another thread (one you posted in), that this was prearranged. But again, without any information at all except a one sided story from someone who calls themselves "crazy", who knows.
 
This should not escalate to forum chatter. Most of the readers here were not present when this took place.

There are, as they say, three sides to the story.

I hope Erica gets her equipment fixed, of course.

I can't take sides on this one. Both entities have strong feelings about their stance. It may be that emotions got the best of both entities-- before, during, and after.

Pool is a fractured industry. It is imperative that we all work together to keep it alive and well. It doesn't do any good to air grievances and differences on AzBilliards. This should be a private matter that is worked out between the parties.

Again, I'm not saying who is right or wrong. I wasn't there. I hope they get this resolved, as I like both of them. :smile:
 
lets get something straight!

Big Truck has commentators that are coming in to work his broadcast. He has Efren flown in from Philippines for a series of events. He has cost associated with his production and is smart enough to secure an agreement with the pool room to be there broadcasting.

Someone whips out their equipment and tries to broadcast at the same venue and same time as his broadcast and he is the bad guy???

Most certainly not! I have seen flyers and advertisements on AZBilliards, facebook and Etc. for months from Big Turck! But, nothing from crazy erica! Nothing!!!!

So, when you try and ride the wave of his "Marketing efforts" do no marketing yourself and piss the guy off when nicely confronted! I am certain things can easily get out of hand.

Why neither Big Truck or crazy erica went to the owner and had him/her clear it up is the big mystery to me??? Maybe out of town?

KD

It's a free market. ...pretty sure there aren't any rules. If the owner allowed it, then it's okay.
 
The Josh Ariah reply is about another incident in which he broke her laptop. This about him throwing her phone. He seems like a POS to me.



Actually her post also claims Big Truck broke her laptop. So the Ariah post is relevant.

Gideon
 
It's a free market. ...pretty sure there aren't any rules. If the owner allowed it, then it's okay.

not when you have an agreement either verbal or written!!!

Why would it be ok for a customer with a choice between watching for free or paying $29.99 for billiard content broadcast at the same time???

Why are sponsors putting up money and banners to be viewed during the big truck broadcast??? If they can get it for free with the crazy erica show???

It is a free market! But, not when you have a verbal or written contract and understanding with the owner or manager of the business.

KD
 
lets get something straight!

Big Truck has commentators that are coming in to work his broadcast. He has Efren flown in from Philippines for a series of events. He has cost associated with his production and is smart enough to secure an agreement with the pool room to be there broadcasting.

Someone whips out their equipment and tries to broadcast at the same venue and same time as his broadcast and he is the bad guy???

Most certainly not! I have seen flyers and advertisements on AZBilliards, facebook and Etc. for months from Big Turck! But, nothing from crazy erica! Nothing!!!!

So, when you try and ride the wave of his "Marketing efforts" do no marketing yourself and piss the guy off when nicely confronted! I am certain things can easily get out of hand.
Why neither Big Truck or crazy erica went to the owner and had him/her clear it up is the big mystery to me??? Maybe out of town?

KD

You are spot on here. It's BS that someone would even attempt this. She's just trying to get attention. The room owner should have put a stop to this the moment it started.
 
It's a free market. ...pretty sure there aren't any rules. If the owner allowed it, then it's okay.

And i think theres a good chance this is what will coe out of the proverbial laundry: that erica had the ok from the venue.

That said, she has been pretty vocal about players entitlement to video benefits in the past. What are the chances that her position resulted in a '**** them, i am here for the players, none of whom are under contract' position?

Theres a reason contracts exist. Theres a reason lawyers exist.
 
I dunno, kidD. Bu that logic, if someone is tailgating you and you slam on the brakes, then the tailgater would be at fault for the accident.

That isnt true. The one who slammed on the brakes is at fault for the accident. Tailgating wasnt the. 'Proximate cause' of the accident.

Damaging equilment is gonna be completely rays fault, given the info on hand.

lets get something straight!

Big Truck has commentators that are coming in to work his broadcast. He has Efren flown in from Philippines for a series of events. He has cost associated with his production and is smart enough to secure an agreement with the pool room to be there broadcasting.

Someone whips out their equipment and tries to broadcast at the same venue and same time as his broadcast and he is the bad guy???

Most certainly not! I have seen flyers and advertisements on AZBilliards, facebook and Etc. for months from Big Turck! But, nothing from crazy erica! Nothing!!!!

So, when you try and ride the wave of his "Marketing efforts" do no marketing yourself and piss the guy off when nicely confronted! I am certain things can easily get out of hand.

Why neither Big Truck or crazy erica went to the owner and had him/her clear it up is the big mystery to me??? Maybe out of town?

KD
 
Erica, can you please roll over and give Richie a wake-up wedgie. He's got a tournament today, and he needs to be sharp. Thank You, and God Bless.
 
Not filing a police report until Sunday because you don't want to interrupt the tournament?

It's like that time I was mugged on a Friday evening and I didn't call the police until business hours on Monday......


Sort of off-topic but anecdotal, once I was being released very early on a Sunday morning from an overnight stay as a guest of the county. As I was waiting for the property clerk I overheard someone trying to turn themselves in since he either had warrants out or he was trying to own up to some new charges/offenses.

Hopefully whatever he did wasn't violent because they didn't take the guy into custody or even get his information, they asked him to return the next day (Monday) and turn himself in when some particular office was open. If I didn't hear it myself I would never believe something like this took place, sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.


Neil

On Topic: There seems to be 2 very different recollections of the happenings so hopefully there is some sort of 3rd party evidence to clear the air, sure it should have been sought after and posted at the start of this thread along with the information on the arrest of or absolute vindication of one party or the other. But hey it got us to stop talking about Hillary/Trump for a few minutes which is definitely time worth spending.
 
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I dunno, kidD. Bu that logic, if someone is tailgating you and you slam on the brakes, then the tailgater would be at fault for the accident.

That isnt true. The one who slammed on the brakes is at fault for the accident. Tailgating wasnt the. 'Proximate cause' of the accident.

Damaging equilment is gonna be completely rays fault, given the info on hand.

sure would be his fault and responsibility to make restitution!

But, the post by crazy erica is not about getting her equipment fixed!!! No one here has that authority and crazy erica knows that!!!

so whats it about???

Why did she post here???

Why is she putting this out in the universe???

This happened several days ago and gets mentioned the day his broadcast begins? Why now versus days ago?

in my opinion, its an obvious smear campaign and tactic! paint the guy as some kind of villain with his loyal customer base "here". Despite the history of bad blood between the two. She is painting Big bad guy against poor little girl!

This is between the owner, big truck & crazy erica to resolve. It will be surprising to see how everything shakes out.

kd
 
And i think theres a good chance this is what will coe out of the proverbial laundry: that erica had the ok from the venue.

That said, she has been pretty vocal about players entitlement to video benefits in the past. What are the chances that her position resulted in a '**** them, i am here for the players, none of whom are under contract' position?

Theres a reason contracts exist. Theres a reason lawyers exist.

Also a very good chance that Big truck had "exclusive" permission during his "event hours".

My understanding is she would be broadcasting at the same time big truck was??? I seriously doubt this was regarding some broadcasting during times and hours that the big truck show was "offline"

KD
 
Sort of off-topic but anecdotal, once I was being released very early on a Sunday morning
from an overnight stay as a guest of the county. As I was waiting for the property clerk I
overheard someone trying to turn themselves in since he either had warrants out or he
was trying to own up to some new charges/offenses.

A similar story I suppose.
My parents rent out storage units. Obviously sometimes rents aren't paid and eventually
these units are cleared out. Usually the same handyman/repairguy who does minor repairs
on these units also takes care of that.

So, he was clearing out a unit when he gave me a call and said that he felt something strange
was going on in this unit. Big blue chemical barrels, all sorts of hoses and stuff were stored there.
He had allready loaded some of it on a trailer. I told him to take the trailer to the police and
tell them what was going on and to take a look in the storage unit. So he did.

Police officer manning the desk came outside and took a look at the ttrailer and told him there wasn't
really anything she could do about it and to take it to the local dump.....he was flabbergasted.
Repairguy happens to have a son-in-law who is a higher ranking police officer and gives him a call.

Couple hours later we have a full-on forensic team going over everything we took from the
unit and everything still in it, turns out it was the remains of a rather big meth-lab. As far as I
know investigations are still going but there are people looking at some serious time.

gr. Dave
 
The screenshot from Facebook is very dated. Apparently, Ray pulled the ethernet cable on her laptop so she'd stop streaming and the laptop went off the table as a result. She was streaming when Big Truck tried to throw her phone but only the stream viewers can confirm. I was watching but it wasn't clear what was going on.

Erica was there running the 9 ball tournament. So she was there officially. The story is that she was in charge of streaming the 9 ball and Ray had the one pocket. Buff would have to confirm but she said she has conversation screenshots to prove it.

Even if Ray had exclusive rights, he'd have to be the one calling the cops or going to the owner. As far as a I know Ray's 9 ball stream was supposed to be free.

If Erica was streaming the action only and the owner allowed it, then there is nothing wrong with that.
 
So big truck not only broke my computer on Tuesday he tried to break my phone he took it and threw it behind the bar because I was streaming for free ... Those who support this guy have the wool pulled down tight over their eyes! 126 people seen him ... Just in case you think I'm lying ... There is no excuse for breaking anyone's stuff, filing a report with the police Sunday ... So I don't interrupt the tournament the entire scene is on film ... Just letting the people know what this guy is all about ...


I don't believe you and I'll continue to support him... And who are you to say people have wool pulled over their eyes??

Speaking of eyes..... I'm willing to bet yours are brown.




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Well thats not the case..,

Ditto!!!

I can't understand "WHY" she would think it is ok to piggy back on a paid event done by "Big Truck" & "Buffalo Billiards" ???

I could go to the us open whip out my camera and start broadcasting for free what the customers are paying for is definitely an attack on the intellectual property rights of the event and the performers.

The owner of Buffalo billiards should be aware of the conflict regarding the intellectual property rights issue and mediate the situation, if he/she gave permission to crazy erica to broadcast at the same time big trucks broadcast is running???

Following big truck from event to event and popping out your camera is not a winning formula. He cultivated these relationships and built up the events. To be a johnny come lately and mess with his business is highly unethical!

Go out Mrs. Erica and build your own tournaments and business, using your free broadcast model! I am certain Big truck was alot more eloquant and professional when he addressed you about his concerns and feelings on the matter and based on the ruckus. You refused!

Just my 2 cents

KD

There no intellectual property agreements in a public domain and none of the players signed on with Erica or Big Truck. I have been friends with Big Truck before he started streaming and Its hard to believe it went down the way its described.

I think he and Erica have both streamed at tournaments before, Big Tymes in Houston, so I don't know why this would have been a problem.

I hope it get squashed.
 
I dunno, kidD. Bu that logic, if someone is tailgating you and you slam on the brakes, then the tailgater would be at fault for the accident.



That isnt true. The one who slammed on the brakes is at fault for the accident. Tailgating wasnt the. 'Proximate cause' of the accident.



Damaging equilment is gonna be completely rays fault, given the info on hand.


Wrong. If you rear end someone your the one getting charged.




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There are other factors,

The screenshot from Facebook is very dated. Apparently, Ray pulled the ethernet cable on her laptop so she'd stop streaming and the laptop went off the table as a result. She was streaming when Big Truck tried to throw her phone but only the stream viewers can confirm. I was watching but it wasn't clear what was going on.

Erica was there running the 9 ball tournament. So she was there officially. The story is that she was in charge of streaming the 9 ball and Ray had the one pocket. Buff would have to confirm but she said she has conversation screenshots to prove it.

Even if Ray had exclusive rights, he'd have to be the one calling the cops or going to the owner. As far as a I know Ray's 9 ball stream was supposed to be free.

If Erica was streaming the action only and the owner allowed it, then there is nothing wrong with that.

I was told that Erica was supposed to stream after hours not during the event??
 
Ha...it is a pool room. Standard business logic and/ procedure was not applied by all involved!
Also a very good chance that Big truck had "exclusive" permission during his "event hours".

My understanding is she would be broadcasting at the same time big truck was??? I seriously doubt this was regarding some broadcasting during times and hours that the big truck show was "offline"

KD
 
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