Pete Fusco's room "The Spot" is located in Trevose Pa. and is a smoking room. They just installed a sophisticated filtration system at a cost of 30k, if I am not mistaken. They have no web site but there are pictures of the system on Facebook.
Smoking and Pool Halls
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Pete Fusco's room "The Spot" is located in Trevose Pa. and is a smoking room. They just installed a sophisticated filtration system at a cost of 30k, if I am not mistaken. They have no web site but there are pictures of the system on Facebook.
I'm a smoker and love the fact that Halls are smoker friendly. I hate the smell... smells like a foot dipped in ass-flavored batter and deep fried in rendered crotch oil. Im just about convinced that this stuff might be harmful to me. But until then, I'd be delighted to step outside if it were convenient and I didn't need to negotiate a rat maze to get there. Just step outside and suck one down. I'm there.
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i'm not sure how they handle ventilation, but i've never smelled smoke when i've been in there. i'd imagine maybe a couple smoke eaters in the smoking room as well as possibly a dedicated a/c unit for the room? not sure though.
Highly unlikely this is excluding many. As pool halls have become increasingly nonsmoking the industry has declined.
I really son't think non-smoking rooms helps.
Smokers will avoid non-smoking places if they can. Just like non-smokers will avoid smoking places if they can.
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Illinois is smoke free, which I love. It is a much more enjoyable experience for me to go to a pool hall now. Unfortunately, the smoking ban here does not appear ro have positively affected pool hall attendance, and I know of at least one hall where it was the cause of its closing.
Maha makes a point......
"pool halls started dying around the time that smoking became something people didnt want to be
around. the ones that survived were places where smoking was ingrained and people dont care."
Indeed, he could be correct but there is a flip side to that since the outcome seems inevitable.
As he suggested, pool halls started dying from the gradual loss of business, i.e., customers.
However, how many of those folks are even still around since enactment of "No-Smoking Laws".
I am not being anything but pragmatic.......Smoking kills no matter how it enters your lungs.
A lot of those long standing pool patrons are no longer above ground due to smoking or exposure.
So the revenue stream was going to be affected regardless of the enactment of no smoking laws.
Pool halls are dying because the industry's business practices rely on "Fuller Brush Man" strategies.
The marketplace has changed but the billiard industry is conducting itself in a "Mad Men" time warp.
OMG....the industry has failed to evolve & recognize the future but still resists the trend.....what a GD
bunch of dinosaurs as a collective industry......Pogo was right..."We have met the enemy and he is us!"
Matt B.
"pool halls started dying around the time that smoking became something people didnt want to be
around. the ones that survived were places where smoking was ingrained and people dont care."
Indeed, he could be correct but there is a flip side to that since the outcome seems inevitable.
As he suggested, pool halls started dying from the gradual loss of business, i.e., customers.
However, how many of those folks are even still around since enactment of "No-Smoking Laws".
I am not being anything but pragmatic.......Smoking kills no matter how it enters your lungs.
A lot of those long standing pool patrons are no longer above ground due to smoking or exposure.
So the revenue stream was going to be affected regardless of the enactment of no smoking laws.
Pool halls are dying because the industry's business practices rely on "Fuller Brush Man" strategies.
The marketplace has changed but the billiard industry is conducting itself in a "Mad Men" time warp.
OMG....the industry has failed to evolve & recognize the future but still resists the trend.....what a GD
bunch of dinosaurs as a collective industry......Pogo was right..."We have met the enemy and he is us!"
Matt B.
I am sure smokers see this as a good idea, but I doubt non-smokers do. Every time
you open the door to that room, smoke is going to flood out, and each person that comes out of that room is going to stink of smoke. Smokers can't usually detect that stuff, but it is a very strong smell to non-smokers. If the room has excellent ventilation it will be better, but still not great overall.
i don't smoke, and i see it as a fantastic solution. it allows both sides to come to a reasonable compromise. that said, the room is big enough that you aren't going to have an issue with smoke filling it to the extent that it "floods outside". that glassed in room is probably 15-20' square, and the building has fairly high ceilings. as for the smokers smelling like smoke......that's gonna be the case regardless.
I disagree, at least in my area, they banned smoking inside and 4 pool halls went out of business because everyone would just go to grandfathered in pool halls where they can smoke inside. Not enough non smokers here to support a pool hall. Except for one, they went private charged a dollar membership, allowed smoking and came back from brink of death.
Also tired of non-smokers thinking they have more of a right than smokers do. If you know the place allows smoking and it bothers you, go somewhere else. Period. That simple.
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Must be an east coast thing. We were raised tough.
Smoke doest really bother me either. I dont recall too many people complaining about it in 1990 either.
Maybe I am the only one, but the smoke in an establishment determines if I decide to practice or play tournaments in that specific venue. I'm also guessing that I'm not the only one that is impacted by the smoke.
Go somewhere else, I am sure if it is enough money in the tournament you will all of a sudden have no issue with it. :grin:
Same way an airport does, smoking rooms are very nice if they do offer that, but I do not want to walk away from the table just to smoke a cigarette.
One quick thought.
1. If you look at the percentage of our population that smoke which is approximately 15-20 percent of the population in the United States, it seems interesting that pool halls in your area have apparently created a client base that excludes the other 80% (since apparently non smoking rooms go out of business) of people in the area. That can't really be a good business model.
I wonder if people who smoke are uniquely more attracted to the game of pool, or if many establishments have just created a culture that never attracted the non smokers to the game. In other words, I think your post clearly proves that smoking in pool halls excludes a huge population of potential pool enthusiasts.