Stevie Moore parallel shots CTE video

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I am not going to play this game with you. There is no end to it.

Stan Shuffett


It's not a game (well, OK, pool is :-) It's a straight forward question: do all pool players see the same points and edges on the balls given the same shot?

Lou Figueroa
 
This video is interesting, and I know that center-to-edge systems work for a lot of people. I can't argue with success. I just wonder about the geometry of it. This video convinces me that the systems are, as Stevie points out, "visual systems" not logical ones, and that the visuals activate your subconscious to fix the geometry.

He sets up two sets of parallel shots in the video and uses the exact same visual and pivot for each set but with different geometrical results. I think we humans trick ourselves often, sometimes for the better, and I believe that this is the case here. If this video accurately represents how the CTE systems work, I assume that the systems must be effective by getting users close enough to the proper aim for the shot so that they don't overthink, and can therefore be relaxed enough to allow the subconscious to then take over for the fine adjustments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mlnRiAXA8


Don't know a lot about cte other then what I've read on here.That being said, I would venture to say his subconscious mind has taken over. Maybe the subconscious put's the body on the right line from his visual of what looks right for the desired pocket.
One thing for sure, it seems odd that one visual can create different cut angles.
 
It's not a game (well, OK, pool is :-) It's a straight forward question: do all pool players see the same points and edges on the balls given the same shot?

Lou Figueroa

Yes, as much as any player has the visual capability to fully visually overlap a cue ball with an object ball.
This is not CTE but something we can each be on the same page with.
Using various head positions I can convey to non players such as my wife how to perceive the CB as fully overlapping an OB. I can do this with her based on two object aspects of spheres: centers and edges.
I will give you Hal's response to your question.....Normally aspired vision should never be an issue......but he would not rule out diagnosed visual issues that are problematic in everyday functioning.

Stan Shuffett
 
Don't know a lot about cte other then what I've read on here.That being said, I would venture to say his subconscious mind has taken over. Maybe the subconscious put's the body on the right line from his visual of what looks right for the desired pocket.
One thing for sure, it seems odd that one visual can create different cut angles.

Nothing to do with the subconscious taking over.

Stan Shuffett
 
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Nothing to do with the subconscious taking over.

Stan Shuffett

What it has to do with is it's his FIRST POST on AZ. Why would he pick THIS THREAD when there's so much more going on in the Main Forum or NPR?

My guess - a banned member coming in on another IP address or a current member trolling specifically for this subject to start more sh*t.

No friggin' way a first time poster is going for THIS action!
 
What it has to do with is it's his FIRST POST on AZ. Why would he pick THIS THREAD when there's so much more going on in the Main Forum or NPR?

My guess - a banned member coming in on another IP address or a current member trolling specifically for this subject to start more sh*t.

No friggin' way a first time poster is going for THIS action!

Good observation!

Stan Shuffett
 
What it has to do with is it's his FIRST POST on AZ. Why would he pick THIS THREAD when there's so much more going on in the Main Forum or NPR?

My guess - a banned member coming in on another IP address or a current member trolling specifically for this subject to start more sh*t.

No friggin' way a first time poster is going for THIS action!


Not looking to join a club here. You can keep your negative BS to yourself and we'll be fine. I responded to the op, not you.
 
Not looking to join a club here. You can keep your negative BS to yourself and we'll be fine. I responded to the op, not you.

Oh yeah, this guy is loaded for action with the tough talk. Not something a newbie would do. Never.

Take a hike, dude.

Freeze him out and don't respond to anything he posts. This is an experienced good for nothing sh*t stirring TROLL.
 
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ok, now I'm lost. If that is not what you are stating, then what in the world are you talking about?

Here's the overall thing just to keep it simple:

CTE users say they can shoot the ball at any angle and make the shot even though there are only 6 (right?) objective shots, plus pivots or sweeps. The "sciencey" people say it is not possible to do this because geometry says there are only 6 or so finite outcomes from those shots or "perceptions." The reply from the CTE users is that even though there is a fixed number of perceptions, the balls and table trick your eye into seeing many different angles with even just one perspective. Then we had 20 years of argument.

Some hypothesize that one possible explanation is that CTE users are unknowingly fudging the angles with small deviations from the perceptions, and by unknowingly steering the cue in the right direction to pocket the ball. This steering can come in the form of a swoop or a drawback and then re-positioning of the butt end of the cue to the correct line. There may be other things going on as well.

I looked more carefully at CTE user strokes in slow motion to see whether there are any stroke errors that could be found... and yes, there are stroke errors, both swoops and "redirections" of the butt in numerous shots taken by CTE experts. Do they matter? Are they the reason for the successful pocketing of the ball? I don't know for sure and haven't tried to look into it any further. Having said that, I can say there are one or two shots that absolutely would not have been made without one of those unknowing or subconscious adjustments.

I haven't made any firm conclusions. Last time I was looking into this I was in the "data gathering" stage. I was looking at any video I could use to see what was happening with the stroke. Everybody else overreacted and started accusing me of all sorts of things when I, myself, had never even taken a stand on what those observations meant.

I concluded, as I do now, that the headache isn't worth it. If it works for you guys and you don't care why it works, that's great. I'm not wired that way.

Hopefully that clears it up.
 
That's what cult leaders do, my friend. They pit the outside world against them so that they can become the answer.

I'm not your friend and never will be.

You're misidentifying everything, from the stroke instead of focusing on the visual part of the game now to a cult.

Cults are destructive like the Manson Cult and Jim Jones of the Branch Davidians.

Hal was a builder of better pool games and so is Stan through CTE. If anybody is involved in a Cult it's you, Lou, PJ and all the followers over the last 20 years. Your entire mission is to destroy anything, anybody, and everything that has to do with CTE.

Here's what I believe from the "Art of War".

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

YOUR DESTRUCTIVE CULT IS THE ENEMY AND I DAMN WELL KNOW IT.
 
Here's the overall thing just to keep it simple:

I concluded, as I do now, that the headache isn't worth it. If it works for you guys and you don't care why it works, that's great. I'm not wired that way.

Hopefully that clears it up.


So does this mean you're booking an overseas cruise to Europe for a long stay in Paris or Rome?

Were you hoping for us to throw a Bon Voyage farewell party since you'll never be returning.

We can and will if you'd like. Give us your email address and we'll send pictures of all the raucous activities honoring your permanent departure.

Damn, I'm actually having a tear come down my cheek. I'm gonna miss you man.
 
Oh yeah, this guy is loaded for action with the tough talk. Not something a newbie would do. Never.

Take a hike, dude.

Freeze him out and don't respond to anything he posts. This is an experienced good for nothing sh*t stirring TROLL.

Never said a word to you until your negative response to me. It's easy to say things like this on the Internet, in person I'd assume you'd use better judgment. Don't care for your system or you, I was just responding to what I thought might be going on in the video the op posted. I'm new here but it hasn't taken me long to realize there's a few dumb asses posting on here, know doubt I'v met the ring leader.:smile:

Hopefully the Mods take care of you.
 
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Never said a word to you until your negative response to me. It's easy to say things like this on the Internet, in person I'd assume you'd use better judgment. Don't care for your system or you, I was just responding to what I thought might be going on in the video the op posted. I'm new here but it hasn't taken me long to realize there's a few dumb asses posting on here, now doubt I'v met the ring leader.:smile:

Hopefully the Mods take care of you.

Hi MrPol

I think you missed my question on the previous page. What is your favorite balloon animal? Maybe you want to know mine first? Okay, that's understandable. Mine is the snake, because it doubles as a sword.

Okay, your turn.
 
Wow this was a really good one you guys! Looking forward to the next thread.

God I love these so much. So exciting!

Man, if Spidey was actually against CTE, how crazy would that be? Talk about undercover.
 
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