Long Cue Review 68 inches

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deanoc

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I got one from JC today
already I am noticing that it is easier to aim with more shaft in front of me

it seems to correct certain stroke flaws I have
It makes me take it back slowly and set or pause

I don't know any of the science if any but there is something different
if you guys have any tips please post

Dean
 
deanoc said:
I got one from JC today
already I am noticing that it is easier to aim with more shaft in front of me

it seems to correct certain stroke flaws I have
It makes me take it back slowly and set or pause

I don't know any of the science if any but there is something different
if you guys have any tips please post

Dean
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Always said everybody shoots a rifle better than a handgun.
Jazon
 
I recently tried a Balance rite forward and had a chance to buy it. Things I did not like was my cue rolled a little funny with it in place. It was not really a big deal.

Things I liked....It felt great and I shot really well with it. My home table is a nine foot Diamond pro and I really don't have any issues with the walls with a normal cue. With this extension I have issues on many shots. I passed on buying it since I primarily play at home. I still remember how good it felt while hitting balls.
 
deanoc said:
I got one from JC today
already I am noticing that it is easier to aim with more shaft in front of me

it seems to correct certain stroke flaws I have
It makes me take it back slowly and set or pause

Dean
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I believe this, but how long is too long of a bridge to use, and at what length does a cue become a detriment due to its length?

I guess by trial and error?

Maniac
 
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Post a picture or it never happened' LoL poking dean to use his picture posting expertise.


Rob.M
 
fellas
i am serious about this experiment
i admit,i don't play good and i am always looking for a way to play better

i don't know why some good players use the long cue
i don't know if it is a different technique

i am not selling
i am asking for insight and advice

i have trouble hitting the shots hard with a regular cue
i have added much power with this cue

the cue is not for sale
i am not sure if i own it or return it after the experiment

so please give me some serious feedback or help
 
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Check out Sky playing with a one piece 120 inch cue :)

If you think the cue looks funny you should see the case :eek:

SKY'S LONG ASS CUE.jpg
 
I am currently trying out a Mezz with 30 in shaft, 4 in mid-insert (probably more correct term) and 2 in butt extension. So about 65 inches an weighs around 21oz. It is very likely to become my playing cue as it is so effortless to move the cue ball around and I seem to aim a little better with it. Also, I have also noticed that I naturally have a shorter and more controlled stroked, but yet produces more power.


Aloha
Randy
 
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deanoc said:
fellas
i am serious about this experiment
i admit,i don't play good and i am always looking for a way to play better

i don't know why some good players use the long cue
i don't know if it is a different technique

i have trouble hitting the shots hard with a regular cue
i have added much power with this cue

so please give me some serious feedback or help
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Could you tell us about the shaft? Is it an LD/LS shaft?

Who is JC? I know a cuemaker with those initials, but there may be others I am not recalling right now.
 
long cue question

deanoc said:
fellas
i am serious about this experiment
i admit,i don't play good and i am always looking for a way to play better

i don't know why some good players use the long cue
i don't know if it is a different technique

i am not selling
i am asking for insight and advice

i have trouble hitting the shots hard with a regular cue
i have added much power with this cue

the cue is not for sale
i am not sure if i own it or return it after the experiment

so please give me some serious feedback or help
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Dean,
Seriously for a change, are you lengthening your bridge, or is there more on the
the back end. I don't get it if you still use the same length bridge. I understand
that you can reach some shots easier but if your bridge is about the same
length I don't see the reason. But on the other hand years ago I had a cue made
for my son 53" long. It was really cool, looked just like my cue just shorter. I hit
balls with it and although I wouldn't really admit at the time I felt like I couldn't
miss. My bridge has always been kind of short and now my right hand was farther
back on the cue more where most hold theirs. And I could really break them with
it, better than I had ever done and control the cue ball. As you know I like cues
shorter now but 57" is as short as I go just because when I decide to sell it (and
there is no doubt I will) it will be possible. Jimmy Reid thought shorter cues for
shorter people was the way to go. I used that little cue to break with until it was
stolen at J.R Pockets.
 
deanoc said:
fellas
i have trouble hitting the shots hard with a regular cue
i have added much power with this cue
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I have the very exact same problem. If I have to slam a long-ish shot (cue ball and object ball far apart) to attain position for the next ball I will miss the shot about as often as I make it. It may be just me, but I don't think a longer cue will help at all making these shots because the problem is in my wobbly stroke. In fact a longer cue creating a longer bridge may exaggerate my problem.

I say this because I went from 58" cues to 60" cues about 5 years ago. In my case the extra two inches got split into an extra inch in my bridge and an inch on the back of the cue (I have long arms). I have noticed that there is a slight increase in perceived power as far as stroking the cue ball is concerned.

I think experimentation is good, especially when there are certain problems in one's game. There will never be progress without experimentation. Just don't set your expectations overly high and give it ample time for adjusting to the new length cue. I remember the first time I played with just a 2" longer cue how weird it felt in my hands. I kept touching the cue ball on my practice strokes.

Good luck to you, Dean.

Maniac
 
Sealegs50 said:
Could you tell us about the shaft? Is it an LD/LS shaft?

Who is JC? I know a cuemaker with those initials, but there may be others I am not recalling right now.
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I'm John Chaplin who made the cue for Dean. Actually my cues are called Coos Cues after my home town of Coos Bay. JC is my handle here on AZ and how I sign my cues.

I'm a fairly new cue maker who has a serious day job so right now I can really only call my cue building a serious hobby. Still learning with every cue. I build cues that I like and if someone else likes them too then they move on to a new home. Planning on building a dozen or so this year and offering them here if they don't get snatched up here in town. So far all the cues I've built have stayed here locally. I'm not interested in building custom cues per se. I think it would turn into work in a hurry with deadlines and promises.

The shaft on Dean's is a stiff modified pro taper maple shaft @ about 12.7mm.

JC
 
6 years ago, I moved to a 60" cue, then added a 4" extension (64" total). Now I shoot with a standard 58" cue with a 4" extension (62") which seems to be my sweet spot. I found immediate improvement with the extra length, which I attribute to improved mechanics (straighter stroke, able to more comfortably control the cue, no need to chock up or stretch, etc.). Could I improve with a standard cue and more work? Sure. One additional note, if I pick up a standard 58" cue, my performance doesn't suffer...at least in the short term. I've noticed a lot of pros using extensions now, hordes of shortstops and A players, I really believe there's more to this than just a passing fad. Maybe the 57" and 58" cues worked fine or better on the nap cloth of yesteryear, and maybe the faster cloth needs/is better suited for longer cue? I think the preference for rotation games over the pattern games, requiring bigger CB moves may have a little to do with it, too.

Anyway, that's my take.
 
West Point 1987 said:
I really believe there's more to this than just a passing fad. Maybe the 57" and 58" cues worked fine or better on the nap cloth of yesteryear, and maybe the faster cloth needs/is better suited for longer cue? I think the preference for rotation games over the pattern games, requiring bigger CB moves may have a little to do with it, too.

Anyway, that's my take.
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It could have something to do with the fact that 100 years ago an American man's height averaged 5'7", and today they average 5'10".

It stands to reason that the length of a cue should change accordingly.

Maniac
 
JC said:
I'm John Chaplin who made the cue for Dean. Actually my cues are called Coos Cues after my home town of Coos Bay. JC is my handle here on AZ and how I sign my cues.

I'm a fairly new cue maker who has a serious day job so right now I can really only call my cue building a serious hobby. Still learning with every cue. I build cues that I like and if someone else likes them too then they move on to a new home. Planning on building a dozen or so this year and offering them here if they don't get snatched up here in town. So far all the cues I've built have stayed here locally. I'm not interested in building custom cues per se. I think it would turn into work in a hurry with deadlines and promises.

The shaft on Dean's is a stiff modified pro taper maple shaft @ about 12.7mm.

JC
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Thanks for responding. I have read many of your posts and was drawing a blank when reading Dean’s original comment. I can make a hand-waving rationalization why players prefer longer cues with LD shafts. But I am clueless why a longer cue would benefit a traditional shaft. Maybe the reason Dean liked it so much was because you build a really great pool cue.
 
JC said:
I'm John Chaplin who made the cue for Dean. Actually my cues are called Coos Cues after my home town of Coos Bay. JC is my handle here on AZ and how I sign my cues.

I'm a fairly new cue maker who has a serious day job so right now I can really only call my cue building a serious hobby. Still learning with every cue. I build cues that I like and if someone else likes them too then they move on to a new home. Planning on building a dozen or so this year and offering them here if they don't get snatched up here in town. So far all the cues I've built have stayed here locally. I'm not interested in building custom cues per se. I think it would turn into work in a hurry with deadlines and promises.

The shaft on Dean's is a stiff modified pro taper maple shaft @ about 12.7mm.

JC
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Refreshing to hear your comments. Thanks and best wishes in where your 'hobby' takes you.
 
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I occasionally play with a 4" extension and I like it. It can be a problem if the pool room is a little tight, you need a little extra room to get around with that big stick. A 8-10 inch extension would probably be to long for some pool or home rooms.
 
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