JoeyA's Aiming System

Very interesting way of being more precise with ghost ball aiming. Thanks for sharing, I'm gonna give this a go.
 
Black-Balled said:
If you start using anything from joey's shop, i am gonna have to double your spot.
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Hey man, I don't have to use something to appreciate it. I don't think I have a problem seeing where to hit the ball, I think sometimes I have a problem actually hitting that spot. Almost every aiming system out there actually works, if your goal is to find the contact point.
 
In my experience, all aiming systems are training wheels.....
...aiming is far more complicated.
If you shoot a half-ball cut on fast cloth or slow cloth, at pocket weight, it goes different
places....if you shoot it at a faster speed, it goes a different place.

...and that's before you start using side spin.
 
JoeyA said:
I "discovered" this aiming system on my own a few years ago but never shared it with anyone but a few close friends and most recently a couple of my students.

Well it was "my" aiming system until I got to browsing through some of my many pool books. :smile:

Anyway, it is a very simple aiming system once you start using it. Even today I sometimes compare it to my instinctive way of aiming. (And yes, I even use CTE to compare my instinctive way of aiming).

Like I have always said an aiming system will make you pay attention (which means that you have to focus when you start paying attention).

This isn't a complicated aiming system as you can see. With a little practice, you might improve your aiming. Let me know if it helps or hurts after you practice with it a little while.

JoeyA

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If you can get these two lines correctly positioned and your body is in alignment so that you can stroke the cue ball straight, you shouldn't have any problem with pocketing balls for the most part.

Essentially, I line up the "contact point line" on the object ball through the cue ball and then simply shift that CPL and my vision center to the center of the cue ball if using no side spin.

And sure, it's okay if you guess what book I recently found this in. :D

JoeyA
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I am kind of slow so help me out. It looks like in the illustration you are
lining up with inside, and then shifting to CB. If you have already
determined the contact point then why do this. I am obviously confused
which is nothing new for me. please explain. When I understand, I
will call my buddy DEANOC and tell him. You talk about easily confused.
jack
 
Good job Joey

This is called:

Offset Aiming
90/90
Close to Pro One

Keep up the good work
randyg
 
It's much easier to show the system to someone than explain it.

Dave,
You always have great descriptions with all of your pool information but I believe what helps me most in "seeing the shot" using parallel-lines aiming system is something that you don't show visually in your link and that is the amount of overlap of the cue ball and object ball. Add that in for another "discovery". :grin-square:

When I explain the aiming system to someone, I also like to explain that it helps me if I visualize the contact point of the cue ball (where it contacts the object ball successfully) on the other side of the cue ball. No one can actually see the contact point of the cue ball when shooting and can only imagine it. I sometimes use a red circle cue ball to demonstrate this "faux contact point" on the side of the cue ball that faces the shooter and it helps some people to understand the aiming system better as shown by this thread.

BTW, don't you and Bob Jewett have a new set of pool videos coming out?

JoeyA


dr_dave said:
Joey,

Good "discovery." This is called the contact-point-to-contact-point or parallel-lines system. It is described and illustrated in detail at the link.

Regards,
Dave
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Thanks Randy. I sometimes explain to students that after visualizing the contact point to contact point, all that you have to do is "parallel shift", your cue to the center of the cue ball. CIT, SIT, table conditions etc. come at a later time.

Aiming systems are great! :D

JoeyA

goettlicher said:
Good job Joey

This is called:

Offset Aiming
90/90
Close to Pro One

Keep up the good work
randyg
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JoeyA said:
Dave,
You always have great descriptions with all of your pool information but I believe what helps me most in "seeing the shot" using parallel-lines aiming system is something that you don't show visually in your link and that is the amount of overlap of the cue ball and object ball. Add that in for another "discovery". :grin-square:
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I too rely on ball overlap visualization, as part of DAM. FYI, ball overlap visualization is also the key element of the double-the-distance or double-the-overlap aiming method. Check it out.

JoeyA said:
When I explain the aiming system to someone, I also like to explain that it helps me if I visualize the contact point of the cue ball (where it contacts the object ball successfully) on the other side of the cue ball. No one can actually see the contact point of the cue ball when shooting and can only imagine it. I sometimes use a red circle cue ball to demonstrate this "faux contact point" on the side of the cue ball that faces the shooter and it helps some people to understand the aiming system better as shown by this thread.
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I like to use striped balls for the same purpose. I use a striped ball as the OB with the stripe pointing in the pocket direction with the center of the number exactly at the required contact point. I also use a "stripe" as the CB with the stripe parallel to the OB stripe and with the center of the number at the corresponding CB contact point. This allows a student to visualize everything at once during practice.

JoeyA said:
BTW, don't you and Bob Jewett have a new set of pool videos coming out?
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That is very kind of you to mention. Yes, we started shipping the Video Encyclopedia of Nine-ball and Ten-ball (VENT) very recently.

Thank you for sharing JAM (Joey's Aiming Method). You should use Bob Marley's "Jammin'" as your teaching anthem. That's too bad you don't live in Colorado where such an anthem would be received especially well.:grin-square:

Hang loose and stay dry,
Dave
 
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This is the way I aim, too. It works really well. It's a lot simpler than folks are making it. Stand over the shot, look at the CP on the OB, then see the mirror image on your side of the CB. I actually look at the mirror image ("opposite" spot) on the CB as I go down on the shot. It really helps me with my alignment, also keeps me from shifting to a thicker alignment as I lower down. Back of the Ball Aiming (popular in snooker), Double the Distance, etc. are variants of this...just how you describe it and visualize the shot.
 
JoeyA said:
It's not even a parallel universe.

Say, don't you have an AIMING SYSTEM BOOK coming out soon? (Details please)

JoeyA
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Joey, I'd like to think that SOON is the operative word. Yes, it will be soon but soon is relative.
Enough beating around the bush. My book is essentially finished as far all important aspects being roughly in place. I am working now on getting 140 diagrams ready for Illustrator and then there's 370 photos to stage. Then there's the never-ending proofreading and editing. I have a proofreader content review person scheduled for the not so distant future. Book title: Professional Center-to Edge Aiming - CTE PRO ONE

Can't wait to get this baby off to my publisher!

Stan Shuffett
 
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stan shuffett said:
Joey, I'd like to think that SOON is the operative word. Yes, it will be soon but soon is relative.
Enough beating around the bush. My book is essentially finished as far all important aspects being roughly in place. I am working now on getting 140 diagrams ready for Illustrator and then there's 370 photos to stage. Then there's the never-ending proofreading and editing. I have a proofreader content review person scheduled for the not so distant future. Book title: Professional Center-to Edge Aiming - CTE PRO ONE
Can't wait to get this baby off to my publisher!
Stan Shuffett
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Anyone (you) :thumbup:who has Elmore James and Muddy Waters music playing in the background on their DVD is my kinda' guy.
Keep on truckin'
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(By the way, I was a proofreader at a newspaper for years back in the stone ages of letterpress, linotype, and litho. When you're interviewing your chosen proofreader, give the person a piece of printed paper and ask them to demonstrate. If they do not start at the end and read it backwards....then they're not much of a proofreader. Going backwards is the "CTE" of proofreading):thumbup:
 
Low500 said:
Anyone (you) :thumbup:who has Elmore James and Muddy Waters music playing in the background on their DVD is my kinda' guy.
Keep on truckin'
:smile:
(By the way, I was a proofreader at a newspaper for years back in the stone ages of letterpress, linotype, and litho. When you're interviewing your chosen proofreader, give the person a piece of printed paper and ask them to demonstrate. If they do not start at the end and read it backwards....then they're not much of a proofreader. Going backwards is the "CTE" of proofreading):thumbup:
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Music is a major interest of mine. Blues is one of my favorite genres.,

Proofing and editing has been an ongoing effort. Not being a professional writer by any stretch, I am certainly has humbled by it all.
I am quite confident that my proofing/content review assignment is in good hands. Once my script and all is off to my publisher, I can additionally rest assured that they'll execute a thorough proofing as that is a part of the services that I will receive.

As a writing teacher, once upon a time, I did employ the backwards approach for scoring hundreds of student portfolios over the years.

Stan Shuffett
 
noMoreSchon said:
Isn't this Parallel Aiming? I think that is what it is called in Hal Mix's book. I have had several

copies 'loaned' out over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imSYf5rBXEg
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Yes, this is parallel aiming. Nick Varner was known to teach it at one time also. It works, as long as you can find the exact contact point on OB from varying angles of perception. And then you have to ensure your cue is perfectly parallel to this point before shifting to center CB. I suppose anything can become workable if you invest enough time in it.
 
Does anyone have the angular deviation from the OB contact point to CB angle that CIT imparts to know here the OB is actually going...for different english and squirt?
 
LAMas said:
Does anyone have the angular deviation from the OB contact point to CB angle that CIT imparts to know here the OB is actually going...for different english and squirt?
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The following analyses contain equations and plots showing how throw varies with speed, cut angle, and spin for shots of all angles:

TP A.14 - The effects of cut angle, speed, and spin on object ball throw

TP A.28 - Throw plots for all types of shots

Unfortunately, there is not a simple answer to your question. An accurate answer for all types of shots must take into consideration all 37 squirt/swerve/throw effects listed with supporting resources in the numbered list beneath the videos and illustrations on the squirt, swerve, and throw effects resource page.

Enjoy,
Dave
 
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