Who would you get to make a shaft?

clydeNbonnie

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All right guys. I have some shaft blanks and was curious to whom you would recommend into making shafts that would fit a Schon. Yes I could buy some Schon shafts but the last few that I bought just didn't hit the same. So who would you recommend to make a shaft? Solid hitting shaft. The schon shaft I am using now doesn't have a brass insert. It has a phenolic insert. And it hits more solid than the one with the brass insert.
 
I don't know if he would but with that type joint, I'd say Pete Tascarella
was a great choice & worth the extra cost if you could make it happen.
Aside from Tascarella, any reliable cue-maker could handle your needs.
 
I think having a shaft made with your own blank is kinda risky. Meaning, after you spend the money, maybe you won't like the hit with that either. I would have Schon make a shaft for me with a brass insert.

All right guys. I have some shaft blanks and was curious to whom you would recommend into making shafts that would fit a Schon. Yes I could buy some Schon shafts but the last few that I bought just didn't hit the same. So who would you recommend to make a shaft? Solid hitting shaft. The schon shaft I am using now doesn't have a brass insert. It has a phenolic insert. And it hits more solid than the one with the brass insert.
 
Bob Runde if you could get him to do it.

But I would think a lot of makers would be hesitant to build with someone else's blanks, or if they did they would stipulate no guarantees for how it turns out.
 
Ok. I should have said the blanks I have come from a reputable cue maker that has retired. These particular blanks have been hanging for around 10 years. This retired cue maker has made me 2 shafts for my Schon.
 
Let me get a little more in depth on what I want. Which cue maker uses a pro taper like Schon that could make a solid hitting shaft for my Schon. Sounds to me like I might have to use their blanks and that would be fine as well. So would you get to do this?
 
Try Andy Gilbert. I like his cues a bunch and he delivers on time. His prices are reasonable for the work performed.

Phillippi can made a nice shaft for the money.
 
I have some shaft blanks and was curious to whom you would recommend into making shafts that would fit a Schon..........So who would you recommend to make a shaft?

Answer one is, whatever cue maker makes the cues you most like the hit of is who you should have make the shafts (since the majority of the way the cue plays/hits comes from the shaft anyway).

Answer two is, if you know whose cues you most like the hit of, but the problem is that they are either retired or deceased, then start a new thread on here asking what cue makers have a hit and play that is closest to the X cue maker that you prefer, or who has all the specs of the shafts of cue maker X and can replicate their shafts.

Answer three is, if you don't have enough experience to know whose cues you most like the hit of, then just pick anyone, doesn't much matter who, because it is just going to be a total shot in the dark as to whether you end up liking it or not anyway, and that includes even if we help you pick it (which is probably even a bigger shot in the dark). You should also probably start trying out other people's cues whenever you can so you can learn exactly what you like in the way a cue hits and plays, and who it is that makes that type of hit, that way you will never have to wonder what maker/s to buy again.

Answer four is, especially if you don't know what type of hit you most like and who makes it, is to just go with whoever it was that made the butt, in this case Schon. That way you keep the cue original to one maker which is a bit more appealing if you should ever want to sell it down the road.

With only the limited information you have provided so far, it seems like having Schon make the shafts is probably the no brainer here. You already know you like the Schon hit at least a good part of the time for most of their shafts you have tried, so your odds for liking a new shaft from them is probably way better than your odds for liking some random shot in the dark you take based on our suggestions, plus the maker will be the same for whole cue which is usually a bit more desirable/easier to sell if ever needed.
 
Not knowing the details of your blanks, it might be difficult to find a cuemaker who would stand behind a piece of wood sourced from somebody else.

Adding to the list of fine names in other responses: Mike Webb.
 
The AGE of the wood and the water or moisture content is important as well as the grain/ring count. Because of this!

I would NOT go with a new cue maker with ONLY a new supply of wood. I would try and find an older cue maker with a larger stock pile of SEASONED shaft wood.

Based on this information I would try /Black Boar / Gina Cues/

Second tier:
Ted Harris/ Mike Capone/ Barrenburger/

Notice the older cue makers have bought wood 20 plus years ago. The LAST thing you want is a FRESHLY cut piece of maple turned into a shaft!!!

Ask any cue maker about wood being turned slowly and allowed to settle???

KD
 
I use Rick Howard to make shafts when I have a need.

I think his taper is perfect and his prices are stupid cheap IMO.

Some folks shafts are stupid expensive......


Ken
 
Do we really think we can just pick up the phone and have a top tier maker build a shaft?

I have doubts that the guys with multi year waitlist for cues would be interested in entering such a conversation, much less provide the service.

Then, when the guy tells you he wont match ringwork...and the shaft is $275...

Go.search the sale pages and buy a few shafts. You really can't have too many, imo. Plus, each one is a bit different, so you might learn to appreciate the differences.
 
Ok. I should have said the blanks I have come from a reputable cue maker that has retired. These particular blanks have been hanging for around 10 years. This retired cue maker has made me 2 shafts for my Schon.

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Well if the shafts are already done, it's an easy job for any cue fixer upper to

put a ferrule, tip, and brass insert into a shaft. Then you can just find someone

to put the collar on.



Or, you can buy a new Kaiser shaft for $50 dollars----one that is already done.

I happened to have a few laying around that will work and look good.



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The AGE of the wood and the water or moisture content is important as well as the grain/ring count. Because of this!

I would NOT go with a new cue maker with ONLY a new supply of wood. I would try and find an older cue maker with a larger stock pile of SEASONED shaft wood.

Based on this information I would try /Black Boar / Gina Cues/

Second tier:
Ted Harris/ Mike Capone/ Barrenburger/

Notice the older cue makers have bought wood 20 plus years ago. The LAST thing you want is a FRESHLY cut piece of maple turned into a shaft!!!

Ask any cue maker about wood being turned slowly and allowed to settle???

KD
20 plus years ago?
 
20 plus years ago?

My
6 point boar was made in 1993 ! Back then black boar bought most all of the best shaft wood on the market!!!

Gina cue has wood older and from the 60's when he started!

Ted Harris and mike capone bought wood back in the late 90's

Barrwnburger is a supplier and gets pick of the litter and that is why he gets mentioned!

Kd
 
Or maybe just but a high end cue from a reputable cue maker and call it a day? Or is that too easy?


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My
6 point boar was made in 1993 ! Back then black boar bought most all of the best shaft wood on the market!!!

Gina cue has wood older and from the 60's when he started!

Ted Harris and mike capone bought wood back in the late 90's

Barrwnburger is a supplier and gets pick of the litter and that is why he gets mentioned!

Kd

I think you mean barringer, not barrenburger.
Barenbrugge is another maker . One of the best there ever was and is today imo.

A great number of cue makers ( if not most of the top makers ) get shafts from 2-3 main sources. Most are from Canada and Michigan .
They are all DRY when they are delivered to the makers .
Moisture content does not really matter much unless the maker has a wet shop and does not control it . Or a really dry shop and does not control it.

If 20 years was the magic number, no cue maker would have made it .
I don't know any major maker who started collecting his shafts 20 years before he started making cues.

Imo, 6 years is plenty for making a shaft . Straight from 1" square or dowel from a very good supplier. The drying and cutting by the supplier is half the job. A badly dried and cut maple plank will not be good in 20 years. Or a century for that matter.
Sharp tools, right cutting process and seasoning process take care of the rest.
A decade is way plenty.
20 years is an accident.
 
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