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Straight pool players are seldom stuck way down that table where they have to come with that long one or go busted...that's why. They don't need any help. There's no interest.
They're primarily in a half-table game. Pretty hard to miss unless doing something careless with position or blowing a safety in a half table game.
Put Buddy Hall or Alex The Lion way down there against Mosconi or most 14.1 players in a shootout and Mosconi would choke for the cheese.
That's my opinion.
Keep on truckin'
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I understand what you're saying but it wasn't my point. My point was based on why they didn't have one single word to say about any of the matches in the 14.1 World Championship since it's their primary interest but can run their mouths all day every day in the Aiming Forum attacking CTE, Stan and users when they don't use CTE or can explain any part of it. Hell, they both claim NOT TO USE ANY Aiming System.

I mean, I really like beautiful women. If somebody posted a picture of one here in the aiming forum you'll probably see me jumping in with something to say.
 
I guess they'll have to get offa their dead a$$es and spend some money on gas to drive to a bookstore and back.

Reminds me of a funny story......I had a job interview in Atlanta yesterday. Had to do a presentation and all the question and answer stuff afterwards. I wanted to take a copy of my book, seeing how "writing skills" were part of the job requirements. But I left home Monday without it, so I stopped at a bookstore about an hour down the road (a place called Empire Books that I knew had a few copies), and bought it. Long story short, they were "very impressed" with my presentation and interview, but a better candidate got the job. So on my way home I got to thinking, "I wonder if Empire Books will give me a refund?"
 
Reminds me of a funny story......I had a job interview in Atlanta yesterday. Had to do a presentation and all the question and answer stuff afterwards. I wanted to take a copy of my book, seeing how "writing skills" were part of the job requirements. But I left home Monday without it, so I stopped at a bookstore about an hour down the road (a place called Empire Books that I knew had a few copies), and bought it. Long story short, they were "very impressed" with my presentation and interview, but a better candidate got the job. So on my way home I got to thinking, "I wonder if Empire Books will give me a refund?"

I'd say just resell it. Those orders are probably coming in all day and night from all parts of the world and the demand is always leaving you short. :D
 
Straight pool players are seldom stuck way down that table where they have to come with that long one or go busted...that's why. They don't need any help. There's no interest.
They're primarily in a half-table game. Pretty hard to miss unless doing something careless with position or blowing a safety in a half table game.
Put Buddy Hall or Alex The Lion way down there against Mosconi or most 14.1 players in a shootout and Mosconi would choke for the cheese.
That's my opinion.
Keep on truckin'
:thumbup:

14.1 is an odd game for non-14.1 players. I have a friend that's a solid A player, consistent breaks and runs racks of 8ball and 9ball, but can't run a dozen balls in straight pool without getting in trouble. It takes more focus and determination than any other standard pool game. Being a half-table game only makes it more challenging. I mean, I scatter 15 balls out across the table and easily run out every time. But having all 15 (14) balls on one end of the table is a different game.
 
I believe Stan's book will available at bookstores, or should be. So I doubt he'll have the option of preventing any specific purchases.


I have friends all over the country that would be more than happy to front for me.

I doubt I will have any trouble getting as many copies as I want :-) When it first came out, a few guys were even willing to send me a copy of DVD2 if I'd review it, but I passed.

Lou Figueroa
 
14.1 is an odd game for non-14.1 players. I have a friend that's a solid A player, consistent breaks and runs racks of 8ball and 9ball, but can't run a dozen balls in straight pool without getting in trouble. It takes more focus and determination than any other standard pool game. Being a half-table game only makes it more challenging. I mean, I scatter 15 balls out across the table and easily run out every time. But having all 15 (14) balls on one end of the table is a different game.


I think, like 1pocket, it's a different set of CB movements.

Small precise movements you don't usually need at a rotation game, though they do come in handy at those disciplines too. You also need to know *all* the shots. One slip up and it's Yahtzee.

Lou Figueroa
 
When it first came out, a few guys were even willing to send me a copy of DVD2 if I'd review it, but I passed.

Lou Figueroa

You won't pass up the freebie this time if it's available. It also appeals to your cheapskate ways. Don't you want to purchase it for your monstrous pool library that goes unread like all the other books?
 
I'd say just resell it. Those orders are probably coming in all day and night from all parts of the world and the demand is always leaving you short. :D

That's the beauty of it......I don't sell them. My part of the deal was writing and editing. I'm not a salesman, no garage full of books at my house. Though I do admit to helping it out on bookstore shelves. Lol. When a bookstore puts your "Billiards" books on an obscure bottom shelf with "games", somebody needs to come in and move them to the "Sports" section, and maybe even put one facing out on display. :thumbup:
 
14.1 is an odd game for non-14.1 players. I have a friend that's a solid A player, consistent breaks and runs racks of 8ball and 9ball, but can't run a dozen balls in straight pool without getting in trouble. It takes more focus and determination than any other standard pool game. Being a half-table game only makes it more challenging. I mean, I scatter 15 balls out across the table and easily run out every time. But having all 15 (14) balls on one end of the table is a different game.

I agree with this. Planning for position to get the correct angles to break balls out as well as seeing things which aren't "seeable" to the untrained eye for 14.1 is tough. And in most cases impossible without a lot of hours on the table and instruction from a seasoned pro player/instructor if someone really wants to progress.
 
That's the beauty of it......I don't sell them. My part of the deal was writing and editing. I'm not a salesman, no garage full of books at my house. Though I do admit to helping it out on bookstore shelves. Lol. When a bookstore puts your "Billiards" books on an obscure bottom shelf with "games", somebody needs to come in and move them to the "Sports" section, and maybe even put one facing out on display. :thumbup:

Who takes the orders for the ebook and forwards it to the buyer?

If you need help and don't want to get involved, I'll be the "money man" to take in the credit cards or check payments.:D
 
Who takes the orders for the ebook and forwards it to the buyer?

If you need help and don't want to get involved, I'll be the "money man" to take in the credit cards or check payments.:D

LOL. Good one. The orders are handled through Lulu. They have international distribution services, which included Amazon, Apple, BAM, Barnes n Noble, etc.... Plus I have a direct contract with Books a Million's distributor, though that is taking longer than anticipated to finalize. If you're ever shopping for self-publishing opportunities, check out Lulu or Create Space. Bob Henning steered me toward Create Space, but I found Lulu more appealing and rewarding. Damn, now I do sound like a salesman, for Lulu!
 
You seem to have a good sense of humor, so since I'm such a nice guy...I thought I would post a picture of "Shimmy Shaking Tina from Pasadena" for you.
Not much dignity or looks to her, but she sure can cook...makes great spaghetti and meatballs.
You oughta' see her draw a bead on those meatballs....(uses CTE, for perfect aim on 'em):):):)
Keep on truckin'
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You ruined my entire evening after looking at her dumpy ugly a$$.
 
I laughed so hard at "another stripe for your uniform and rank" that I spit coffee all over my desk!

But honestly I was simply stating true facts. A very out-spoken CTE user has claimed remarkable success in a matter of weeks from only watching Stan's free youtube clips. He has not purchased DVDs or private lessons, and surely won't purchase the book. But that's not my point. My point is that this guy actually started a thread asking how to get the final alignment for CCB. He was not attacked, not belittled, not called a hater. Yet somehow he is having great success with the system, though admitting he has no clue how to get the final CCB "solution", which is my only hang up also. The difference is, when the book comes out I'm going to buy it and he more than likely will not.

Cookie even started a thread about players that keep "wanting the nuts and bolts of cte for free", and I provide a fine example of one of those guys right there in your own camp, and you call ME out. I'm being honest and up front -- I know what the "perceptions" are and how to get them. It's the next part I don't get, and I'm willing to pay the cash for Stan's work in order to hopefully understand what I'm not getting. Will I use it? No. But I have a curious mind and I like learning. I mean, I'm very open minded, but not so much that my brain drops out.
How exactly do you know you will not use it. Other very good players have switched after learning CTE. Are you going in with a closed mind
 
The claims are crazy and none of these guys are putting up video of themselves deploying the system. Wonder why.

I too will be happy to buy the book and peruse it.

Lou Figueroa

Plenty of video's of cte players out there.

PS I'm betting your review of the book is almost finished in advance of release.
 
How exactly do you know you will not use it. Other very good players have switched after learning CTE. Are you going in with a closed mind

No closed mind. I have already spent many hours trying to learn it, from dvd1 several years back to every single youtube clip Stan has online, plus a few other youtube clips from those who claim to know how it works. I only wasted this time because I view it as an unsolved puzzle. I did the same thing with the rubics cube and got to where I could work it within 1.5 minutes using my own logarithmic patterns. It's no world-record time, but I'm content with it. I'm also content with how I play pool and I'm not in the market to change a thing. The same way CTE users feel once they begin to consistently make it work. I'm all for doing what works for you. But also a curious type that enjoys learning.

I'm mainly curious because I don't see anything special about aiming with spheres. We aim using the equators of the balls, circle against circle, regardless of which aiming system or method one uses. These "perceptions" are simply visual relationships between two circles at different perspectives. The "objectivity" of using the system with any accuracy relies on player experience, which means it's not quite objective. But I don't want to start a big mud-slinging battle, so I'll just say maybe the book will prove the system's objectivity, and that would be great. But the system will have a place right there on my shelf alongside all those diamond kicking systems that I just haven't wanted to invest any time into learning.

Regardless, you can use ANY two circular objects (like hockey pucks or poker chips) and get the 15 30 45 "perceptions" and fire them into the holes using cte. Or you could use fractions, Samba, or whatever. They don't have to be spheres.
 
No closed mind. I have already spent many hours trying to learn it, from dvd1 several years back to every single youtube clip Stan has online, plus a few other youtube clips from those who claim to know how it works. I only wasted this time because I view it as an unsolved puzzle. I did the same thing with the rubics cube and got to where I could work it within 1.5 minutes using my own logarithmic patterns. It's no world-record time, but I'm content with it. I'm also content with how I play pool and I'm not in the market to change a thing. The same way CTE users feel once they begin to consistently make it work. I'm all for doing what works for you. But also a curious type that enjoys learning.

I'm mainly curious because I don't see anything special about aiming with spheres. We aim using the equators of the balls, circle against circle, regardless of which aiming system or method one uses. These "perceptions" are simply visual relationships between two circles at different perspectives. The "objectivity" of using the system with any accuracy relies on player experience, which means it's not quite objective. But I don't want to start a big mud-slinging battle, so I'll just say maybe the book will prove the system's objectivity, and that would be great. But the system will have a place right there on my shelf alongside all those diamond kicking systems that I just haven't wanted to invest any time into learning.

Regardless, you can use ANY two circular objects (like hockey pucks or poker chips) and get the 15 30 45 "perceptions" and fire them into the holes using cte. Or you could use fractions, Samba, or whatever. They don't have to be spheres.

You see nothing special about CTE aiming and you never will, the same for Lou and Dan and a few others. I don't give a damn about your opinion.
In a previous post, a few months back, you clearly stated that you did not spend much time at all with CTE.
It will be thousands over time that really look at CTE from a motivated perspective that really matter. The CTE approach is not even remotely close to other systems as you assert.
Again, it's laughable to me how often that you feel the need to go negative against my work when you don't know squat about it.

And furthermore, I can show the specialness of CTE using pucks or circles. A sphere is not a requirement. We use pool balls for pleying/aiming and yes, it's at the equator where the specialness that occurs.

You also keep mentioning perspective as if we all can have slightly different takes on perception.
A zero center to center alignment can be seen and known by most anyone. Everyone can see a zero perception as long as they can get their vision into a specific location in space for the proper c to c perspective. The perceptions of 15 30 and 45 and even 60 can be known just as the zero c to c can be known for traditional aiming. It's all about getting one's into the proper location in space. Since ever shot can engage a 15 30 45, it does not take long for learning how to see the CTE perceptions.

Stan Shuffett
 
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You see nothing special about CTE aiming and you never will, the same for Lou and Dan and a few others. I don't give a damn about your opinion.
In a previous post, a few months back, you clearly stated that you did not spend much time at all with CTE.
It will be thousands over time that really look at CTE from a motivated perspective that really matter. The CTE approach is not even remotely close to other systems as you assert.
Again, it's laughable to me how often that you feel the need to go negative against my work when you don't know squat about it.

And furthermore, I can show the specialness of CTE using pucks or circles. A sphere is not a requirement. We use pool balls for pleying/aiming and yes, it's at the equator where the specialness that occurs.

You also keep mentioning perspective as if we all can have slightly different takes on perception.
A zero center to center alignment can be seen and known by most anyone. Everyone can see a zero perception as long as they can get their vision into a specific location in space for the proper c to c perspective. The perceptions of 15 30 and 45 and even 60 can be known just as the zero c to c can be known for traditional aiming. It's all about getting one's into the proper location in space. Since ever shot can engage a 15 30 45, it does not take long for learning how to see the CTE perceptions.

Stan Shuffett


We all see things differently.

Lou Figueroa
 

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