Jason “Buffalo” Hunt vs Scott Simonetti
- Thread starter FeelDaShot
- Start date
You beat me to it. I mentioned in my thread I did not think it was the 675 from Los Angeles.
I am not sure who who you are talking about and i know most apa players.
You couldn't figure how to find it?...ya just gotta do the math....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjtbEg4HHZw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I think I would have had the guy pay what he was currently down LONG before he owed billions. Maybe he thought the was good for up to 2 billion?
Short Bus Russ
This chart gives the rough equivalence between ratings from various systems including FargoRate and the APA 8 ball and APA 9 ball rating systems. Keep in mind though that is terribly difficult to compare anything to APA since their ratings vary from locale to locale (a 7 in one area would be a 5 or a 6 in another area), and since there is a pretty broad spectrum of player levels for any given rating even within the same area (some 6's can spot other 6's fairly significant weight even in the same city for example).
http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/ratings.html#A-D
Jason Hunt is better than a 590. More like a 650-680 in my opinion.
Not sure if you noticed but the Jason Hunt from Los Angeles with a 675 rating was a starter rating only with zero games in the system. As far as I am aware, for men, 525 is the standard "we have no information whatsoever on this player" starter rating, and if a starter rating above or below that is being used it is the result of their judgement based on how that player did in events that were not tracked by FargoRate, or it is based on that player's "known ability", or both.
Sometimes "shell accounts" are created for people who are anticipated to play an event or league but don't already have an existing FargoRate account that they are aware of, and often or generally in such cases the city and state of the event is what is listed for the location, at least temporarily. So if a player from out of the area signed up to play in an event, but didn't end up playing after all, you could easily end up with a shell account such as this with the "incorrect" location listed for that player. There are also other scenarios that could result in a shell account with the incorrect location listed.
I have no idea if this is the same Jason Hunt they had in mind when the Los Angeles account was set up but I would consider it a possibility since the starter rating is in the general vicinity of his actual speed and since he gets around the country and could easily have signed up for an LA event at some point in time (and he was known to have been in northern California area for a while and perhaps he had planned to travel down to LA for an event like many of the players there do).
Most of what you said is pure conjecture but I will say anything is possible but in this case its a highly unlikely possibility.
Jason " buffalo " hunt idoes have a Fargo rate and tour summation was based on him not having one.
As i stated in the post you partially quoted there were several Jason hunts in the system. I did mention the onw in los Angeles also because I was aware that Jason had lived in California at one time but I later realized that later that the Jason hunt from buffalo n.y. With the 590 rating is the same Jason this thread is about and is called Jason " buffalo " hunt because he is from buffalo.
I have watches some of jasons matches and will have to disagree with your opinion that 675 is Jason " buffalo " hunts real speed but them again he could be one of those that has a tournament speed and an action speed.
Actually, I really didn't say anything that was conjecture. Mostly I was just making you aware that the Los Angeles account wouldn't really have any relevance whether it was him or not since it was just an unused shell account with a guesstimated starter rating and did not have any games played since it seemed you were talking about it as if it would have some significant relevance if it were him. The fact that it is currently just an unused shell account with only a guesstimated starter rating is not conjecture.
To break down the rest of what I said, the fact that starter ratings for men outside of 525 are mostly derived from tournament results and known ability is not conjecture. The fact that it is not unheard of for shell accounts to exist for players who don't live in the city and state listed is not conjecture. The fact that there are several ways this can happen is not conjecture. While I didn't mention it originally, the fact that it is not unusual for the same person to have multiple FargoRate accounts, whether they consist of actual games played, or are just unused "shell" accounts, or both, is also not conjecture. The fact that 675 "is in the general vicinity of his actual speed" is not conjecture. I have played him a ton of times and seen him play a ton more and know exactly how he gambles and plays in tournaments and I can assure you that 675 is in fact in the "general vicinity" of his actual speed and it is certainly a hell of a lot closer to it than 590 is. The fact that the Los Angeles account could possibly also be him is also not conjecture as it is in fact possible. I never said it was him or even likely him and in fact I was crystal clear in saying that I had no idea if it was him or not and only that it was possible that it could be. While we are talking about though I think the chances that it is him are a lot higher than you do though and are probably at least a coin flip IMO.
So as you can see I really didn't say anything at all that was conjecture in the post you quoted so your "most of what you said is pure conjecture" statement was pretty out of line IMO. I think part of your confusion is that you seem to be operating from the assumption that I believe that the Buffalo NY account is not him but the Los Angeles account probably is him and this in incorrect. What I actually believe is that the Buffalo NY account is probably him and the Los Angeles account is a coin flip as to whether it is him or not but it doesn't really much matter one way or the other since that account doesn't have any games played--which is the main point I was trying to make to you to begin with.
Yeah , try him some then !
Let the action go down and do some side bets . I'll take HUNT !
fluffybutt
Registered
I met Jason in Reno late one night at his pool hall a few years ago. He's actually a really nice guy. I gambled with him for awhile. He's at least a 650.
A different take on Jason Hunt....I thought he had found his niche in the game....
...I was happy for him....got away from the life of a desperate pool fanatic....
...going broke in strange places....
..but then the lease ran out...and the landlord had a better offer.
From an AZ member....
---------------------------------------------------------------
Pool - 05-14-2014, 08:36 PM
Best pool hall in Northern Nevada............................................ ..............................................
I have gone in there 4 or 5 different times now, I love the front 4 tables............
One night Jason and I went over to Atlantis to the ToCan Charlie's for the all you could eat sea food.
We Had the table covered with snow crab shrimp and hot butter
It was nothing less then a feast... And had great time talking about pool with him.
If you ever want to be around someone who loves playing pool Jason is that person.
He one big time pool junkie.
The service is fast, and it is enjoyable place to play/
On the 7th of this month I had to go into what the doctors said would be a risky surgery,
7 days later I got out.
Jason shows up while I was in ICU makes damm sure I don't need anything.
Last Night he showed up at the hospital with a bacon chess burger and fries
The man Loves pool and has treated me then nothing less then like we had been best of friends our entire life.
Coming to see me in the hospital went a longs ways in my books .
I go through eye surgery the 27th and after that Jason said he would help me with my game.
I look forward to me improving.....
I have
---------------------------------------------------------------
Scott and Jason have very contrasting styles and personalities, but both can play the game and have a real passion for Pool. I think they would make an excellent and close match-up, the kind I would love to watch. I hope it comes off. :smile:
I agree completely. I would never call him pro speed. He is the better player...that is certain.
I have a lot of respect for any body who steps up and bets high on pool. It takes a person with the right balance of skill, heart and bankroll. You have to have all 3.
I would think Fargo Rating is bumped up living in NYC with more events to be rated in. Hunt isn't as active. Either way they probably never play....so it doesn't matter.
Last edited:
Brian,
Why not offer the two of them an offer they can't refuse to play in your room on your stream? If Jason has the backing, his guy shouldn't care about another five hundred or so dollars to fly to Syracuse. Scott might have lower travel costs but neither have ever played in your room. From the level of interest shown on this thread, a reasonable charge for the stream might be in order.
Lyn
Seriously, how many guys are really betting their own big money? Might be five or even ten major players in the US. The rest gamble on their backers money. JMHO.
Lyn