Quote of the year so far... :thumbup:
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Jayson Shaw victim of cheating
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Quote of the year so far... :thumbup:
The pga also pays the players millions.
If pool paid that they would act better .
a nit plus an asswipe.
The dumbest thing about this exchange is your analogy between pool and golf.
You obviously don't watch the NFL, do you? Lol
Shaw will never be a Souquet. Earl will never be a Kaci.
If your playing in the U$A to make a living, your character will be tested.
I've seen it happened to a few over the years where they were nice in the beginning, but in time they started ''acting out''. Some think it's gonna be easy to make a living playing pool in the states.....NOT.
Like another said, and it's been said MANY times. PGA/Payout/Control/Rules.....once those are in place for pool, the players will be under control, as will the game itself.
If your playing in the U$A to make a living, your character will be tested.
I've seen it happened to a few over the years where they were nice in the beginning, but in time they started ''acting out''. Some think it's gonna be easy to make a living playing pool in the states.....NOT.
Like another said, and it's been said MANY times. PGA/Payout/Control/Rules.....once those are in place for pool, the players will be under control, as will the game itself.
Big bar table tournament
I think that may be an oxymoron, they will use soft break as long as they continue to play 9 ball, players will watch corner ball go like a dear in spotlight. Play Ten ball on a 5x10 (tap balls in an rack for your opponent). Don't be an oxymoron, nine ball diamond shape configuration will be non existent in future top rotation tournaments.
I think that may be an oxymoron, they will use soft break as long as they continue to play 9 ball, players will watch corner ball go like a dear in spotlight. Play Ten ball on a 5x10 (tap balls in an rack for your opponent). Don't be an oxymoron, nine ball diamond shape configuration will be non existent in future top rotation tournaments.
Nope
The whole thing was ugly, no ref at the table and yes there was some inconsistency goin on. First time Earl called numerical origin of ball incorrectly - they ruled it a foul, second time it was different. Since I disagree there was some confusion (including the new neighbors that were moved into the air b&b). It was the ugliest finals of a real pool tournament I ever witnessed, all due to the fact that there was not a ref at the table. Stop calling pro pool players nits due to a disorganized event that persists on not having a ref at the table in the finals of a major event.
No ref at the table = major screwed up event. Period.
The whole thing was ugly, no ref at the table and yes there was some inconsistency goin on. First time Earl called numerical origin of ball incorrectly - they ruled it a foul, second time it was different. Since I disagree there was some confusion (including the new neighbors that were moved into the air b&b). It was the ugliest finals of a real pool tournament I ever witnessed, all due to the fact that there was not a ref at the table. Stop calling pro pool players nits due to a disorganized event that persists on not having a ref at the table in the finals of a major event.
No ref at the table = major screwed up event. Period.
If a player was going for an obvious shot..and called the wrong number, a ref will correct
him.....so Jayson WAS being a nit when Earl made the ball he was CLEARLY playing....
....but called it by another number.
Isn't this brought up year after year, yet, y'all keep going back.....
No refs=more $ in Charlies pocket....JMO
You probly weren't there (imagine that)
Like many people on this forum you were not there - I was. Earl did call the wrong ball and the ref ruled it a foul, then the same scenario came up again later on in the set and ref changed the call saying it was not a foul. I can't believe some of the ignorance here on this forum at times - and just num could indeed be a troll. Bottom line if you understand English is had the ref been at the table then he would have corrected him before Earl made contact. It would have saved all the drama and while I think it could have been handled differently - Jason had every right to be upset. Again no protection for the players as usual, and for me in 2017 I had a strange person they moved into room next to me and I was not able to sleep a wink going into final matches. No protection for the player at the table so I would not expect any while at their air b&b crooked set up.
Like many people on this forum you were not there - I was. Earl did call the wrong ball and the ref ruled it a foul, then the same scenario came up again later on in the set and ref changed the call saying it was not a foul. I can't believe some of the ignorance here on this forum at times - and just num could indeed be a troll. Bottom line if you understand English is had the ref been at the table then he would have corrected him before Earl made contact. It would have saved all the drama and while I think it could have been handled differently - Jason had every right to be upset. Again no protection for the players as usual, and for me in 2017 I had a strange person they moved into room next to me and I was not able to sleep a wink going into final matches. No protection for the player at the table so I would not expect any while at their air b&b crooked set up.
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I agree that all matches should be refereed.
This is not accurate. The guy officiating the match did not walk away, but was there during the incident that resulted in the controversy. He simply wasn't paying attention and had to make the claim that he hadn't heard what ball was called. This is why the tournament director ultimately had to make the decision . Although I think Earl was probably in the wrong here, especially because he'd called the wrong ball once already earlier in the match, the bulk of the blame lies with the referee, who was inside the playing area, who wasn't paying attention.
This is not accurate. This was a semifinal. The tournament was down to four players and all matches from that point on would be contested on the main stream table. Nothing was being set up for the next match. The referee (who was not the tournament director) was not diverted in any way from his duties, but he got caught napping and his failure most likely (but not definitely) cost Jayson the match.
This was not the fault of the tournament director, who ultimately had to make a decision that was certain to infuriate somebody. Had he been referreeing this match, it would have been his fault, but given the absence of any conclusive evidence that Earl called the wrong ball (the sound on the reviewed videotape was not of sufficient quality to determine it) the call had to be made without anything other than hearsay.
A strange person? How so? Was he some kind of pervert? Some kind of registered offender? That must have been terrible for you.
I was there, too, and your account is incorrect. Failure to pocket the called ball in straight pool is not, by rule, a foul and the referee did not call a foul when Earl made this mistake the first time. All he did was turn the table over to Shaw.
So the lack of money means behavior standards are out the window?