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desi2960

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They have been making, plastic, fibreglass, plastic coated, carbon fiber cored, and a zillion other synthetic
shafts for many many years. I believe a pool cue is always going to end up with a wood shaft.

There will be a few that wears a glove, has a vibration damper on their cue, and using $30 chalk. But after playing for 68 years, I'm telling you. You cannot buy a good game. Quit spending ur money on crap and spend it on table time. Practice, practice, practice
 
desi2960 said:
They have been making, plastic, fibreglass, plastic coated, carbon fiber cored, and a zillion other synthetic
shafts for many many years. I believe a pool cue is always going to end up with a wood shaft.

There will be a few that wears a glove, has a vibration damper on their cue, and using $30 chalk. But after playing for 68 years, I'm telling you. You cannot buy a good game. Quit spending ur money on crap and spend it on table time. Practice, practice, practice
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Yep. Same with tennis rackets and golf clubs. They’ll learn soon enough that wood is superior.
 
easy-e said:
Yep. Same with tennis rackets and golf clubs. They’ll learn soon enough that wood is superior.
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I have to say that between a wood racket vs a new one is a HUGE difference in performance, while a modern wood shaft vs any of the man made material ones is not nearly as different in what it can do with a cueball. I don't think we even need to talk about "accuracy" since that is all in how you aim and hit the ball in the first place. I know plenty of players that can't play at all with an LD shaft, so all that "4 times more accurate" sales talk just means that some engineer compared flex or something.

My biggest issue with the fancy pants stuff is the cost. There should not be a world where someone makes a $500 shaft, and where players go "yep, sounds like a deal" LOL
 
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hang-the-9 said:
I have to say that between a wood racket vs a new one is a HUGE difference in performance, while a modern wood shaft vs any of the man made material ones is not nearly as different in what it can do with a cueball. I don't think we even need to talk about "accuracy" since that is all in how you aim and hit the ball in the first place. I know plenty of players that can't play at all with an LD shaft, so all that "4 times more accurate" sales talk just means that some engineer compared flex or something.
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It was a joke. I do, however, believe that everything can and will be improved through innovative new technology.
 
desi2960 said:
They have been making, plastic, fibreglass, plastic coated, carbon fiber cored, and a zillion other synthetic
shafts for many many years. I believe a pool cue is always going to end up with a wood shaft.

There will be a few that wears a glove, has a vibration damper on their cue, and using $30 chalk. But after playing for 68 years, I'm telling you. You cannot buy a good game. Quit spending ur money on crap and spend it on table time. Practice, practice, practice
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So, I'm assuming you use a house cue, with a LePro tip and Pioneer chalk. If not, why not? just curious?
 
hang-the-9 said:
I have to say that between a wood racket vs a new one is a HUGE difference in performance, while a modern wood shaft vs any of the man made material ones is not nearly as different in what it can do with a cueball. I don't think we even need to talk about "accuracy" since that is all in how you aim and hit the ball in the first place. I know plenty of players that can't play at all with an LD shaft, so all that "4 times more accurate" sales talk just means that some engineer compared flex or something.

My biggest issue with the fancy pants stuff is the cost. There should not be a world where someone makes a $500 shaft, and where players go "yep, sounds like a deal" LOL
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Performance will always be subjective when it comes to pool cues. For every great player with wood, another will be found with carbon fiber playing just as well.

However what is not subjective is the resiliency of the material the cue is made of and how it still stand the test of time.

Here is a photo of a cue failure I experienced while executing a draw shot. Longoni S2 shaft.



The fact is this will never happen with carbon fiber. An equipment failure (break, ding, delamination) under playing conditions will never happen with carbon fiber and that does count for something.
 
Aluminum baseball bats made wood bats obsolete in non professional baseball. That's little league all the way up to college level.

Now, that will never happen in pool, because equipment is not as abused as baseball bats and hitting a cue ball 400 feet is not the object.

But, a nice combo of old school and new school can surely exist together, in harmony ;)

Pick the one you like and do it. But, wood is never going away, and metal is here to stay.

I still like wood, but I use LD shafts, so I'm still somewhat of a new tech guy ;) Don't think i'll ever go all the way to metal though... just not my cup of tea, but for those that like it, enjoy the hell out of it.
 
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I don't think the graphite shaft is worth over $500 bucks. It could be said it is the cost of new technology. But given Predators track record, does anyone think the price will come down in the future? I say NOT! AAMOF, a custom cue maker does a lot more work, and uses far more knowledge selecting the proper piece of wood, and manufacturing a wood shaft then Predator does with a graphite one.

Take this for example.... how much does a top of the line graphite golf club shaft cost? Or a high end fishing pole? They have come down in price since inception because of improvements in manufacturing. Do you think Predator will do the same? Or will they lower production costs and increase profits rather then giving the consumer a better deal?

I do have a Predator cue, and I like it, but I never would have obtained one if I hadn't won it in a contest. I don't care for the way they do business. If you do, fine. It's my opinion.
 
buckshotshoey said:
Take this for example.... how much does a top of the line graphite golf club shaft cost?.
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$359.99 - $379.99

There are examples of $1000 + shafts played on the PGA Tour. Weekend players see these shafts being played, want them & buy them even if there is no need.

Perhaps kinda like the Revo.
 
The main difference between the Revo and the synthetic material shafts that have come before, is the prior ones all sucked. They were sticky in your hands. Or made strange sounds hitting. And they were targeted to the low end market, where the players did not know any better.

The Revo actually feels good in your hands. It’s the first one that is good enough for a “player” to want to use.
 
What I find amazing is the dozens of records previously held by the old school masters playing with wood that have been shattered to pieces by dozens of people every week with these modern non-wood shafts. Obviously this is the perfect evidence of the vastness of their superiority. They are so accurate it is hard to miss. Eventually you just have to sleep. This has ruined the whole game IMHO.

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For the life of me I'll never understand what intrigues people to have an opinion on what type of equipment another person buys or uses. Who gives one diddly flyings F if someone wants to spend $500 on the latest and greatest shaft. I guarantee the people that abhor the existence of the REVO are the same people that own $3000 custom cues. Do the customs make more shots than SVB's CueTech? Nope, not a chance, but if it makes you feel better and you have the money, who cares what you spend it on? I say money spent on the pool industry is money well spent.
 
hang-the-9 said:
I have to say that between a wood racket vs a new one is a HUGE difference in performance, while a modern wood shaft vs any of the man made material ones is not nearly as different in what it can do with a cueball. I don't think we even need to talk about "accuracy" since that is all in how you aim and hit the ball in the first place. I know plenty of players that can't play at all with an LD shaft, so all that "4 times more accurate" sales talk just means that some engineer compared flex or something.

My biggest issue with the fancy pants stuff is the cost. There should not be a world where someone makes a $500 shaft, and where players go "yep, sounds like a deal" LOL
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Actually, if you got one for $500 you should feel extremely lucky. People are asking $700+ for them now due to some hording them and raffles now going for $750+. People should be ashamed of themselves.
 
desi2960 said:
They have been making, plastic, fibreglass, plastic coated, carbon fiber cored, and a zillion other synthetic
shafts for many many years. I believe a pool cue is always going to end up with a wood shaft.

There will be a few that wears a glove, has a vibration damper on their cue, and using $30 chalk. But after playing for 68 years, I'm telling you. You cannot buy a good game. Quit spending ur money on crap and spend it on table time. Practice, practice, practice
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I agree. Any good player can fine tune his aiming to adjust to the amount of deflection to allow for, with any cue, with trial and error. A Revo shaft, in my opinion, is not going to significantly help a player who does not have the skill to fine tuned his aim to a high level, when using various amounts of L and R english.
 
ChrisinNC said:
I agree. Any good player can fine tune his aiming to adjust to the amount of deflection to allow for, with any cue, with trial and error. A Revo shaft, in my opinion, is not going to significantly help a player who does not have the skill to fine tuned his aim to a high level, when using various amounts of L and R english.
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And you'd be wrong. Why go thru all the trial and error. On 85% of my shots with English the amount of deflection is so minimal I don't have to compensate for anything. So, thus only 15% of my shots I have to adjust for versus 100%. Yeah, I like those numbers better.

And any good player could easily not adjust using an LD shaft, right?

The problem with your theory is not only GOOD players buy cues. folks that want to play better than can't really adjust well will play better, not great, but certainly better at potting balls. That's a good thing for them and for the sport. They might even come back and join a league, who knows.
 
For all the inquiring minds

I play with a one piece brazilian rosewood butt, and a wood shaft no ferrule.
 
ChicagoRJ said:
And you'd be wrong. Why go thru all the trial and error. On 85% of my shots with English the amount of deflection is so minimal I don't have to compensate for anything. So, thus only 15% of my shots I have to adjust for versus 100%. Yeah, I like those numbers better.

And any good player could easily not adjust using an LD shaft, right?

The problem with your theory is not only GOOD players buy cues. folks that want to play better than can't really adjust well will play better, not great, but certainly better at potting balls. That's a good thing for them and for the sport. They might even come back and join a league, who knows.
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You must be using a different Revo shaft than myself or Brandon Gramse from Select Billiards used when he did his shaft review. Yes, it is much less deflection than most any other shaft, but based on his tests, the Revo shaft still deflects the CB 1/2" on a soft hit, 3/4" on a medium hit, and 7/8" on a firm hit, and that's only with 1 cue tip of english - not even with maxiumum english applied.
 
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