Revo Revo revo

[Chopdoc]

Revo has not made the wooden shaft a dinosaur...yet. I predict the future versions will.
It's not about the amount of deflection. It's about consistency from shot to shot, but more importantly, consistency for various off center hits. The players who will benefit most are players who have the most accurate stroke and want a shaft that gets the most consistent results. There are no surprises, what you see is what you get, time after time.

Instead of arguing, let's come back and read this thread in a few years. By the way, unless a player has tried CF long enough to adapt, how could they form an opinion?

The vast majority are casual players.

Most don't even but a cue. They play off the wall.

And of those that buy a cue, most buy a "budget" cue, hence the huge market in inexpensive cues.

There are already a lot of graphite, fiberglass, and otherwise cues in that market and have been for a long time...yet most are still wood.

Certainly wood will fade and other materials will steadily gain market share.

But for most players the difference in playing characteristics won't matter because they are casual players. And that will remain true for the most part.

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[RADAR]

Well i have tried the shaft and my thoughts are for me is.
1 could not get pass the color of the shaft.
2 The shaft plays well & hits better than any other pervious predator wood shafts.
3 Still nothing special as in feedback. Its not for me and nothing beats good old maple solid hit!
4 I will take a MEZZ & EXCEED cue over any! Superior products!

 

[trob]

They have been making, plastic, fibreglass, plastic coated, carbon fiber cored, and a zillion other synthetic
shafts for many many years. I believe a pool cue is always going to end up with a wood shaft.

There will be a few that wears a glove, has a vibration damper on their cue, and using $30 chalk. But after playing for 68 years, I'm telling you. You cannot buy a good game. Quit spending ur money on crap and spend it on table time. Practice, practice, practice

And your obviously an old man who still doesn’t believe in progress and technology. Tell golfers to go back to wooden clubs instead of using those new fangled one. Lol

 

[poolhustler]

......too many people want to buy something that makes them a better player,instead of practicing to become a better player......

And on what pray tell do you base this ASSumption? First hand experiences?

 

[Cornerman]

Just sayin'...

My custom teenytinyhollowtipped cue squirts less than a Revo, yet I have to adjust for squirt on every side spin shot. But I can see how it might seem otherwise compared to normal squirt cues.

pj
chgo

My 12.4 Revo on regularly used equipment has negative Effective Squirt.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

My 12.4 Revo on regularly used equipment has negative Effective Squirt.

If you mean swerve exceeds squirt, I think there are too many swerve variables to make meaningful comparisons that way. Do you know the "natural" (without swerve) pivot point of your Revo?

pj
chgo

 

[Cornerman]

If you mean swerve exceeds squirt, I think there are too many swerve variables to make meaningful comparisons that way. Do you know the "natural" (without swerve) pivot point of your Revo?

pj
chgo

No, I mean spin induced throw exceeds Squirt. No swerve involved. Standard Aim & Pivot Method for Squirt Compensation, which measures the Effective Squirt Pivot Point, and not the Natural Pivot Point.

I was trying out the OB 2 Plus along side Bob Jewett a few years back when he exclaimed that it had negative Squirt, assuming he meant Effective Squirt, not Pure Squirt (he was shooting into an object ball). This 12.4 Revo has less squirt.

 

[buckshotshoey]

oke:I'll poke a little bit. When is someone going to say...
"It's not the arrow... it's the Indian? oke:

Sorry... couldn't resist.

 

[easy-e]

No, I mean spin induced throw exceeds Squirt. No swerve involved. Standard Aim & Pivot Method for Squirt Compensation, which measures the Effective Squirt Pivot Point, and not the Natural Pivot Point.

I was trying out the OB 2 Plus along side Bob Jewett a few years back when he exclaimed that it had negative Squirt, assuming he meant Effective Squirt, not Pure Squirt (he was shooting into an object ball). This 12.4 Revo has less squirt.

I didn’t know any of these terms existed:scratchhead:

 

[MattPoland]

The way I look at it. I’ve been playing for 20 years with the same $200 cue given to me by my father as an Xmas gift. Now I’m a grown man with a steady income and discretionary spending available to me. Come bonus time in a couple weeks I think it’s time to treat myself. I plan on buying a $1K+ butt just for the looks and putting a 12.4 Revo on it just for the experience of learning a new shaft. I don’t expect it to make me a better player but I do expect it to give me a greater appreciation for the difference in how it plays.


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[KRJ]

No, I mean spin induced throw exceeds Squirt. No swerve involved. Standard Aim & Pivot Method for Squirt Compensation, which measures the Effective Squirt Pivot Point, and not the Natural Pivot Point.

I was trying out the OB 2 Plus along side Bob Jewett a few years back when he exclaimed that it had negative Squirt, assuming he meant Effective Squirt, not Pure Squirt (he was shooting into an object ball). This 12.4 Revo has less squirt.

If is has less than an OB-2, that's pretty fuggin good

 

[garczar]

No, I mean spin induced throw exceeds Squirt. No swerve involved. Standard Aim & Pivot Method for Squirt Compensation, which measures the Effective Squirt Pivot Point, and not the Natural Pivot Point.

I was trying out the OB 2 Plus along side Bob Jewett a few years back when he exclaimed that it had negative Squirt, assuming he meant Effective Squirt, not Pure Squirt (he was shooting into an object ball). This 12.4 Revo has less squirt.

Wow!! Awful lot of squirting here.

 

[desi2960]

Ok ok ok

You people have convinced me, I'm old, unwise, and stuck in the stone age. I am going to swallow my pride, I have ordered some carbon fiber material, I am going to build a couple of these carbon fiber shafts, so i can do some side by side comparisons.

 

[garczar]

You people have convinced me, I'm old, unwise, and stuck in the stone age. I am going to swallow my pride, I have ordered some carbon fiber material, I am going to build a couple of these carbon fiber shafts, so i can do some side by side comparisons.

Curious as to how you plan to make one. You going to make mandrels and lay-up then bake them yourself? A LOT of technology in making CF products. Getting taper and wall thicknesses correct is NOT easy to do. Neither is having access to autoclave unless you work for Boeing maybe.

 

[KRJ]

You people have convinced me, I'm old, unwise, and stuck in the stone age. I am going to swallow my pride, I have ordered some carbon fiber material, I am going to build a couple of these carbon fiber shafts, so i can do some side by side comparisons.

Dude, make what you like. Just cause you like wood better is perfectly fine. And if folks like CF that is fine too. But, there are NOT a lot of CF buyers compared to wood. So, don't see much need in learning a new trick at this point. Build what your good at and what you like

 

[poolhustler]

Curious as to how you plan to make one. You going to make mandrels and lay-up then bake them yourself? A LOT of technology in making CF products. Getting taper and wall thicknesses correct is NOT easy to do. Neither is having access to autoclave unless you work for Boeing maybe.

Most larger glass fabricators have them.... some actually very large!

 

[haystj]

You people have convinced me, I'm old, unwise, and stuck in the stone age. I am going to swallow my pride, I have ordered some carbon fiber material, I am going to build a couple of these carbon fiber shafts, so i can do some side by side comparisons.

You are going to build one of these Cabron shafts yourself?

This is going to be very interesting, please post pictures of your progress.

 

[Chopdoc]

You people have convinced me, I'm old, unwise, and stuck in the stone age. I am going to swallow my pride, I have ordered some carbon fiber material, I am going to build a couple of these carbon fiber shafts, so i can do some side by side comparisons.

Start by wrapping your maple blanks with it.

Then turn down the blank.

They will look like this:

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[desi2960]

Oh I promise

There will be photos, I have nothing to hide.

 

[Chopdoc]

Curious as to how you plan to make one. You going to make mandrels and lay-up then bake them yourself? A LOT of technology in making CF products. Getting taper and wall thicknesses correct is NOT easy to do. Neither is having access to autoclave unless you work for Boeing maybe.

Many cue makers know a lot of machining, CNC, finishing, and more technologies including some chemistry, materials and more. And it is NOT easy to do.

There are already numerous shops that make custom carbon fiber parts for many applications.

Seems to me that if a cue maker wants to learn it, he can. I have a feeling some will....and soon...

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