Originally Posted by jimmyg View Post
Not to mention that this is also a very rare case...she is certainly the exception.
Anyone denying that men and women are generally genetically wired differently each with different strengths, weaknesses, and inherent predispositions, is purely delusional.
I agree 100% that men and women have a great deal of difference across all sorts of categories. I also agree that there are differences between individual women, and between individual men. SIming Chen is rare in so much as she is "the best". However she is not the least bit rare in regard to the fact that she is one of thousands or 10's of thousands of people who have won or lost racks against fargo rated opponents and received a rating accordingly.
WHY and HOW she came by that rating are completely irrelevant to fargo ratings. Fargo predicts performance in terms of liklihood of winning racks against a particular rating. The prediction is based on past performances against that rating and/or is extrapolated from other match ups. The sex, eye color, weight, bench press max number, competitive spirit, etc. all may have contributed to those performances one way or another, but are not predictive of those performances. Are you suggesting otherwise?
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Quote: MattPoland
Of course. There’s a lot of reasons for disparity between men and women. On the average men take more interest in pool than women and produce significantly more top level players.
But when a top level woman does emerge for whatever reason, like Siming, the people denying she is top level or thinking an average man can beat her is even more delusional. And that’s what matches like this demonstrate. And I’d like more matches like this to prove it out for the doubters.
I wasn't
suggesting anything. But, just in case I wasn't as clear as I thought I was, I'll go a little deeper into these shark infested waters.
Even absent strength, which is an enormous factor in most sports, at some point during competitions, more so at the higher levels, skills and knowledge will take a backseat to determination, aggression, and will. Men, via testosterone, are genetically engineered to be dominate in those areas compared to women. With few exceptions that is a fact. Even in pool, where the factor of strength isn't nearly as important as with other sports one can see the usual differences in will and aggression, men are naturally much more intense in these areas. But again, there are always exceptions, perhaps she is one of them and I wish her luck.
As for the "fargogate" rating system, I suppose it's not unlike The Daily Racing Form, The Tale of The Tape, or any other system that gathers and processes past performance data. They do what they do well, but the Vegas bookmakers are still making a fortune. Mike, if I'm wrong, chime in.
Snowflakes: the new generation of people who believe that everyone is different and special, deserves a participation trophy, are easily offended, and expect the fruits of other people's labor. :smile: