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Players that cheat
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Actually Maniac, back when I used to play APA 8 years ago I learned to do that because I saw another player do it and that was before I realized how wrong it was/is. I never said I was perfect and am always trying to improve in pool and in life.
I realize that there in rare situations I would have no other choice but to foul, very very rare situations. I think it makes someone work hard to try and make the impossible situation work for them. I think picking up the cue ball(moving or not) should be loss of game hands down. I love pool and love playing whether I win or lose. I don't need to win every game I play, as long as I played decent its always fun.
Trent from Toledo
"Within the structure of the rules" hmmm, when talking about breaking the rules intentionally, this sounds like a way to tell yourself its ok to cheat....Sociopaths do the same about killing people, they lie to themselves so they can do the terrible things they do!
Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.....
So everyone else has sociopathic tendencies and you’re the only normal one. Yet you’re the one drawing the parallels between intentional fouls and murder. Makes sense. Also neat how you do that while also posting that you’re not here to argue.
I’m pretty sure that would get the tournament directors attention. Doesn’t that fall under the unsportsmanlike conduct umbrella? Clever for sure, but I thought that’s been addressed.
If I was the TD, that move would be a loss-of-game violation. Moving the balls in that manner without involving the cue ball constitutes a concession as far as I'm concerned.
If it happened twice in one match, I'd call loss-of-match.
Maniac
From the WPA rules. See (b), but you have to know that a shot is a tip-to-cue-ball contact with a forward (along the cue stick) motion of the cue.
6.17 Unsportsmanlike Conduct
The normal penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct is the same as for a serious foul, but the
referee may impose a penalty depending on his judgment of the conduct. Among other
penalties possible are a warning; a standard-foul penalty, which will count as part of a threefoul
sequence if applicable; a serious-foul penalty; loss of a rack, set or match; ejection from
the competition possibly with forfeiture of all prizes, trophies and standings points.
Unsportsmanlike conduct is any intentional behavior that brings disrepute to the sport or
which disrupts or changes the game to the extent that it cannot be played fairly. It includes
(a) distracting the opponent;
(b) changing the position of the balls in play other than by a shot;
(c) playing a shot by intentionally miscuing;
(d) continuing to play after a foul has been called or play has been suspended;
(e) practicing during a match;
(f) marking the table;
(g) delay of the game; and
(h) using equipment inappropriately.
The normal penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct is the same as for a serious foul, but the
referee may impose a penalty depending on his judgment of the conduct. Among other
penalties possible are a warning; a standard-foul penalty, which will count as part of a threefoul
sequence if applicable; a serious-foul penalty; loss of a rack, set or match; ejection from
the competition possibly with forfeiture of all prizes, trophies and standings points.
Unsportsmanlike conduct is any intentional behavior that brings disrepute to the sport or
which disrupts or changes the game to the extent that it cannot be played fairly. It includes
(a) distracting the opponent;
(b) changing the position of the balls in play other than by a shot;
(c) playing a shot by intentionally miscuing;
(d) continuing to play after a foul has been called or play has been suspended;
(e) practicing during a match;
(f) marking the table;
(g) delay of the game; and
(h) using equipment inappropriately.
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Yep, One Pocket cheats... grabbing your ball(s) out of the return, "forgetting" to spot up
when he owes one... don't have a coin?.. here's one!
When my opponent makes one in my hole, I immediately put that ball in my rack when I come to the table.. and always stand up to see if he got a rail. Old school 1P players used to put their scored balls in the carry tray on a table. And some would remember every number on the balls they made.
Always know the score
when he owes one... don't have a coin?.. here's one!
When my opponent makes one in my hole, I immediately put that ball in my rack when I come to the table.. and always stand up to see if he got a rail. Old school 1P players used to put their scored balls in the carry tray on a table. And some would remember every number on the balls they made.
Always know the score
Any player that can win knocks the nine ball in....
....if that is cheating where you play....I don’t want to play there.
No brainer - unsportsmanlike foul - automatic loss of game. If they do it again - automatic loss of match.
To clarify, I'm referring to a player that chooses to intentionally hit a ball on the table with his cue tip, other than the cue ball. That is completely different than picking up the cue ball and handing it to their opponent for a ball-in-hand, or intentionally hitting the cue ball in to another ball other than the lowest ball on the table or other than one of their balls if playing 8-ball, in an attempt to rearrange the balls to make it harder for their opponent to run out, which also would also constitute a ball-in-hand.
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Yes, but only if the opponent is knowledgeable enough to call him out and raise a stink. That’s why it fits in the category of cheating. Really all cheating should fall under unsportsmanlike conduct and an interesting factor is whether someone gets away with it.
Respectfully, Matt
(I don’t take myself too seriously. I hope you can return the favor.)
We are adults having a discussion and no one is arguing. I was using analogies to back up my opinions about cheating and never said anyone had sociopathic tendencies, you did that. I also never said I am the only normal one, again, you said that. What I did say was what I thought was cheating, I won't play that way and I don't like to play pool with people who play that way.
Here is another one: If someone doesn't mind cheating at a game they like to play, what other things in life are they willing to do that are wrong???
We are all entitled to our opinions
Trent from Toledo
We are adults having a discussion and no one is arguing. I was using analogies to back up my opinions about cheating and never said anyone had sociopathic tendencies, you did that. I also never said I am the only normal one, again, you said that. What I did say was what I thought was cheating, I won't play that way and I don't like to play pool with people who play that way.
Here is another one: If someone doesn't mind cheating at a game they like to play, what other things in life are they willing to do that are wrong???
We are all entitled to our opinions
Trent from Toledo
My opinion is you enjoy keeping the game as simple as possible so you don’t have to actually use brain cells to figure out the best strategic shot that 99.9% of top players would play.
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We are adults having a discussion and no one is arguing. I was using analogies to back up my opinions about cheating and never said anyone had sociopathic tendencies, you did that. I also never said I am the only normal one, again, you said that. What I did say was what I thought was cheating, I won't play that way and I don't like to play pool with people who play that way.
Here is another one: If someone doesn't mind cheating at a game they like to play, what other things in life are they willing to do that are wrong???
We are all entitled to our opinions
Trent from Toledo
You said that breaking the rules intentionally is something sociopaths do. Everyone around here thinks it’s ok to intentionally foul, therefore, you are implying that we have sociopathic tendencies. Seems pretty clear to me. And since you do not think it’s ok to foul intentionally, it seems as though you do not have those sociopathic tendencies, making you “normal”. I don’t think I made a very far stretch on either of those assumptions.
You’re 100% right that we are all entitled to our opinions, and mine are no more valuable than yours. Just be careful having such a strong opinion, drawing parallels between other people’s opinions and murder, and then saying that you don’t feel like arguing. Seems like classic argument bait.
We are adults having a discussion and no one is arguing. I was using analogies to back up my opinions about cheating and never said anyone had sociopathic tendencies, you did that. I also never said I am the only normal one, again, you said that. What I did say was what I thought was cheating, I won't play that way and I don't like to play pool with people who play that way.
Here is another one: If someone doesn't mind cheating at a game they like to play, what other things in life are they willing to do that are wrong???
We are all entitled to our opinions
Trent from Toledo
I would also like to AGREE with your statement about cheaters being willing to cheat at other things. I hate cheaters. You just happen to be the only one who thinks playing an intentional foul is cheating.
Above is what you said, below is what I said. This proves I did not say what you claim I said in your statement above.
"Within the structure of the rules" hmmm, when talking about breaking the rules intentionally, this sounds like a way to tell yourself its ok to cheat....Sociopaths do the same about killing people, they lie to themselves so they can do the terrible things they do!
Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.....
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Above is what you said, below is what I said. This proves I did not say what you claim I said in your statement above.
"Within the structure of the rules" hmmm, when talking about breaking the rules intentionally, this sounds like a way to tell yourself its ok to cheat....Sociopaths do the same about killing people, they lie to themselves so they can do the terrible things they do!
Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.....
I don't think sociopaths lie to themselves-they truly believe anything they do is right and no one else makes a difference-JMAPO
The way the morals of society are changing....
...I’m. seriously considering becoming a sociopath.....
...( But it’s legal to use this washroom, I identify as a woman.).....
Bigot!! You need to be "gender queer". Watch out folks that one is getting hot!!
Above is what you said, below is what I said. This proves I did not say what you claim I said in your statement above.
"Within the structure of the rules" hmmm, when talking about breaking the rules intentionally, this sounds like a way to tell yourself its ok to cheat....Sociopaths do the same about killing people, they lie to themselves so they can do the terrible things they do!
Intent is the difference between murder and manslaughter.....
Fun way of thinking you have. Idiots think that way. (I’m not calling you an idiot, just saying that’s the way idiots think). Do you see how much sense that makes?
I stand behind all of my statements.
I also stand behind this one:
I am an idiot for getting drawn into an argument with you. That is the truth.
:thumbup:
Trent
I also stand behind this one:
I am an idiot for getting drawn into an argument with you. That is the truth.
:thumbup:
Trent