thanks for the post.
My theory is aiming means nothing...
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thanks for the post.
I agree with a lot of what youve said including your assessment of systems.
I havent seen a system that can calculate tips of English and throw which is why I stand by my methods.
What my methods do is enable you to gain a reference point understanding of what you need to know to be able to make the judgements you need to make which is the beauty of pool. If you have a way to be able to understand what the shot needs to look like at the point the cue ball hits the object ball then that in itself is a really big help.
I think people believe what Im talking about is a system when in fact its nothing like the systems Ive seen but it is visual, it makes visual observations possible and then all you have to learn to do is get the ball to the right place that you now understand how to do.
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You are more than welcome Chris. Always a pleasure to see you compete.
Tennis, Golf, Billiards and many others are just depending on your "Arm-Eye and Brain Computer". Just remembering the correct pic with your brain and *do* it.
When it's happening properly, you don't align the sights, they just become aligned; and the target's incidental.
"... you first empty your cup."
Body alignment, mostly. Just like CTE/ProOne
.At the pro level, most of the time it's not easy to change the direction of the ball. If you watch long cross court rallies carefully, over the course of three or four shots you can often see one player working into a position from which, on a slightly weak return, they can step into their shot a little differently and send the ball down the line. It's easiest to see in slow motion and with women players; the men are strong enough that they can sometimes muscle a shot in a way that most people shouldn't try unless they like losing.
What is the OB's tangent? The only place the OB should be traveling after contact is toward the target and that path should be the same as your three parallel lines coming from the pocket through the OB. The tangent line is the path the CB travels after contact, isn't it? I don't read that instructional material a lot so maybe your terminolgy is what's throwing me here.
tangent line....
The tangent line is a line that is perpendicular to the line going to the pocket...
I'll draw an illustration so you can see what I was describing...
As you can see this method can be cumbersome but it is accurate for finding the initial aim line. In the illustration, the black lines all represent imagined lines that intersect the ob and cue ball on parallel and tangential angles.
The blue line represents the correct initial aim line...
There are much simpler ways of using the parallel shift method, this just seemed to be more accurate as you have to be able to accurately visualize the line and with more reference points, the more accurate your visualization will be...
I called this the parallel railroad track method...or intersecting the square...
Jaden
The tangent line is a line that is perpendicular to the line going to the pocket...
I'll draw an illustration so you can see what I was describing...
As you can see this method can be cumbersome but it is accurate for finding the initial aim line. In the illustration, the black lines all represent imagined lines that intersect the ob and cue ball on parallel and tangential angles.
The blue line represents the correct initial aim line...
There are much simpler ways of using the parallel shift method, this just seemed to be more accurate as you have to be able to accurately visualize the line and with more reference points, the more accurate your visualization will be...
I called this the parallel railroad track method...or intersecting the square...
Jaden
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John, I sense that you were high when you wrote this.
That one is definitely a feel.
It really depends on what you mean by aim. If you want to identify it, objectively it is a neurological process involving your sight, your muscle coordination.
So what you're really saying is that you think aiming is looking, but aiming (for me and in pool) means being able to intend your body to align along your sight. What that further extrapolates to is being able to essentially look at a point, know that you're vertically aligned on that line to that point, and having the form where if you stroke, you irrevocably hit straight on that line and only that line.
If you don't have that last part down, of course you won't think aiming matters. It means you have a disconnect between your form and your sight. And if it's not form or sight, then you are just finding the wrong point.
So what you're really saying is that you think aiming is looking, but aiming (for me and in pool) means being able to intend your body to align along your sight. What that further extrapolates to is being able to essentially look at a point, know that you're vertically aligned on that line to that point, and having the form where if you stroke, you irrevocably hit straight on that line and only that line.
If you don't have that last part down, of course you won't think aiming matters. It means you have a disconnect between your form and your sight. And if it's not form or sight, then you are just finding the wrong point.
Here is my theory...
If you knew EXACTLY where to hit to make a shot, for every shot, you would not play any better than your current level. My contention is that there is SO MUCH to this game, that the theoretical aiming point, line, ball, whatever, is an almost insignificant portion of your overall performance as a player.
How can we prove (or disprove) this theory?
1. Place one of Joe Tuckers ghost ball training aidsunder every single ball in a rack of 9 ball. This will tell you the perfect "ghost ball" location for each ball.
2. See if you can run the rack.
3. Repeat 50 racks, keeping score of how many balls you ran each rack.
4. Repeat 50 more racks, without the aid, and keep score.
5. Compare your results.
I see someone decided to dig up a 7 year old theread.
Yep, knowing WHERE to hit the ball means nothing. Actually being able to hit there is everything. Any beginner can be shown the contact point and would be able to point it out to you in 2 minutes.
Well, except for the fact that the contact point changes according to the spin on the cue ball, and even if the cue ball has no sidespin, draw/stun/follow will change the contact point.
Ha ha, what are the odds he is a banned member? I'll bet 20:1.
Well, that's not a good bet to set. The question is what is the over/under for current length of stay. I'll guess a week, but anyone who might bet can influence the result.
Speaking of banned, it's interesting in threads like this to scan back and see who in them got banned. How did "duckie" qualify for the apparently permanent axe? I thought he was a little hard-headed but not total ban material like some posters.
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That is a bit further down the line for shot making though, and still needs the ability to hit where you want to. There are a lot of * to aiming and anything in pool LOL. Well you bank by going to the same angle the other way, except you adjust for type of rails, type of cloth, newness of cloth, humidity, temperature, speed of the hit, spin on the cueball, which hemisphere you are on, how dirty the balls are, if you had a heavy or light lunch, account for deflection and tip type, if the sun is in your eyes, how much you are playing for... LOL
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I peeked on the account, there is one in the welcome new members thread, doubt it's a banned member, likely a newer player looking for resources and did not check the date on a search.
But...you dont know why a given member is in a band. Do you?!
I think half the shots I miss are due to difficulty aiming, half due to delivery.
Shots I miss due to delivery are usually shots where I have to do one or more of the following: Hit extremely hard, use extreme sidespin, shoot from off of a rail or over a ball, or shoot from a long distance.
Shots I miss due to faulty aim tend to be one of these: Combinations, banks, blind pocket back cuts, caroms, thin cuts, and shots where the object ball is a long way from the pocket reducing the margin of error.
Sometimes I might make both mistakes in the same shot.
Personally for me I have a pretty good stroke and tend to focus more on the aiming. The reason why is that when I measure my game against the top pros the areas I come up short tend to be more on the second group of shots I described rather than the first. Possibly this is because I have a really strong cue ball. I rarely have difficult off angle shots, so when they come up I don't have the same confidence in my visualization that I did when I was 17. Meanwhile my stroke has improved quite a bit.
I agree that each of us should use our practice time wisely and prioritize the areas that will make the biggest positive impact, and certainly delivery can be the top priority for many and can never be over developed. It really does depend on the player though.
Shots I miss due to delivery are usually shots where I have to do one or more of the following: Hit extremely hard, use extreme sidespin, shoot from off of a rail or over a ball, or shoot from a long distance.
Shots I miss due to faulty aim tend to be one of these: Combinations, banks, blind pocket back cuts, caroms, thin cuts, and shots where the object ball is a long way from the pocket reducing the margin of error.
Sometimes I might make both mistakes in the same shot.
Personally for me I have a pretty good stroke and tend to focus more on the aiming. The reason why is that when I measure my game against the top pros the areas I come up short tend to be more on the second group of shots I described rather than the first. Possibly this is because I have a really strong cue ball. I rarely have difficult off angle shots, so when they come up I don't have the same confidence in my visualization that I did when I was 17. Meanwhile my stroke has improved quite a bit.
I agree that each of us should use our practice time wisely and prioritize the areas that will make the biggest positive impact, and certainly delivery can be the top priority for many and can never be over developed. It really does depend on the player though.
I think most shots are missed by many players because they don't know their stroke nor the shot.
You have to know your set up and stroke are going to do what they're going to do. And then you need to know whatsagonnahappen when you shoot a shot at a certain speed, with a certain spin, using a certain bridge.
Lou Figueroa
no one said
it was going to
be easy
You have to know your set up and stroke are going to do what they're going to do. And then you need to know whatsagonnahappen when you shoot a shot at a certain speed, with a certain spin, using a certain bridge.
Lou Figueroa
no one said
it was going to
be easy