WE LIVE ON A PLANET: YES, this is pool related

garczar said:
... the moon and sun are only 3000 miles up ...
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If they did the triangulation correctly, they should have gotten a distance equal to what the Round Earthers say is the radius of the Earth, which is about 4000 miles. The stars have to be about the same distance away and so are all very, very small. And Mars is about half a mile across -- you can measure the angular diameter of Mars with a relatively small telescope, if you believe in telescopes and don't think they are simply radio-controlled TV screens.

One problem with claiming that the Moon is so close: you can bounce radio waves off the Moon and measure the round trip time. You can independently measure the speed of radio waves (which is equal to the speed of light, since radio is just a low-frequency kind of light). With those two measurements, you figure the distance to the Moon. (This technique is called "radar".)

Another problem: if you measure the diameter of the Moon when it is straight overhead and then again when it is nearly setting, it is very, very close to the same. This is hard to explain in the FE universe because in the second case it is much farther away.
 
Bob Jewett said:
If they did the triangulation correctly, they should have gotten a distance equal to what the Round Earthers say is the radius of the Earth, which is about 4000 miles. The stars have to be about the same distance away and so are all very, very small. And Mars is about half a mile across -- you can measure the angular diameter of Mars with a relatively small telescope, if you believe in telescopes and don't think they are simply radio-controlled TV screens.

One problem with claiming that the Moon is so close: you can bounce radio waves off the Moon and measure the round trip time. You can independently measure the speed of radio waves (which is equal to the speed of light, since radio is just a low-frequency kind of light). With those two measurements, you figure the distance to the Moon. (This technique is called "radar".)

Another problem: if you measure the diameter of the Moon when it is straight overhead and then again when it is nearly setting, it is very, very close to the same. This is hard to explain in the FE universe because in the second case it is much farther away.
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You "smart" people all say the same things. That's how we know there's a worldwide conspiracy against the rest of us.

pj <- now who's dumb?
chgo
 
How about a sun dial? Doesn't the movement of the shadow over time illustrate orbit?

There is an ancient tool called spirograph that might might be a good mid-step.

And the compass? What is inside...coz I guess it is full of shit?

These FE people cant even get their doo-doo-brown together in a manner that would sent somebody around the earth with one?
 
Black-Balled said:
How about a sun dial?
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History of....

indian sundial

One day, a cowboy was crossing the desert to do some trading and came upon an Indian. The Indian was laying on his back and had an erection that stuck straight up in the air.

The cowboy asked the Indian what he was doing.

The Indian replied, "Me telling time." This made sense to the cowboy, he was using his penis as a sundial.

A few days later, after completing his trading, the cowboy came across the same Indian. This time the Indian was laying on his back vigorously masturbating.

The cowboy asked what he was doing this time.

The Indian said, "Me winding clock."
 
Bob Jewett said:
If they did the triangulation correctly, they should have gotten a distance equal to what the Round Earthers say is the radius of the Earth, which is about 4000 miles. The stars have to be about the same distance away and so are all very, very small. And Mars is about half a mile across -- you can measure the angular diameter of Mars with a relatively small telescope, if you believe in telescopes and don't think they are simply radio-controlled TV screens.

One problem with claiming that the Moon is so close: you can bounce radio waves off the Moon and measure the round trip time. You can independently measure the speed of radio waves (which is equal to the speed of light, since radio is just a low-frequency kind of light). With those two measurements, you figure the distance to the Moon. (This technique is called "radar".)

Another problem: if you measure the diameter of the Moon when it is straight overhead and then again when it is nearly setting, it is very, very close to the same. This is hard to explain in the FE universe because in the second case it is much farther away.
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Could you interview Max and post it here? Might be the post of the Millenia. ;)
 
What a cock.

GoldCrown said:
History of....

indian sundial

One day, a cowboy was crossing the desert to do some trading and came upon an Indian. The Indian was laying on his back and had an erection that stuck straight up in the air.

The cowboy asked the Indian what he was doing.

The Indian replied, "Me telling time." This made sense to the cowboy, he was using his penis as a sundial.

A few days later, after completing his trading, the cowboy came across the same Indian. This time the Indian was laying on his back vigorously masturbating.

The cowboy asked what he was doing this time.

The Indian said, "Me winding clock."
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Oh wow. Somebody finally understood everything I discovered back in the late 70's. Flat earth, space trips, remote viewing - yeah, I even experienced remote hearing and remote farting. How I did it? Remember Yellow Sunshines? If you don't know what I am talking about - you are not one of the chosen few :-)

Back to serious arguments. If the military can do all this remote viewing stuff, why do they still get their asses kicked all the time? Why didn't they remote view Saddam or the other evil-doers, send a Cruise Missile (or better 3 or 5 at a time) right to that place where they remote viewed him?

Take another tiny example of my own philosophy: take at a look at a larger puddle of dirty water somewhere. Take a microscope. Find those tiny amoeba and other tiny living beings in there. Now imagine what those beings of a total length of a few microns believe the world - or rather the universe - to be. Yep, their galaxies, universes and so on are restricted to the very edges of this very puddle of water - if they ever got to all of the "ends of their world". You can take this further and question what the meaning of time might be for them.

So - there is an analogy there. Human beings in "their own little universe". How terribly stupid must they be when they can't even travel much farther than the moon, let alone the next galaxy. And now you tell me that those little amoeba (or less than that in universe or universes) go ahead and tell me they understand God? And there are endless forms of these amoeba tinkering with their different forms of God, Gods, Angels and so on. Some of them even believe that flying planes into the WTC will award them with 77 virgins someplace! Some of them even believe that killing is evil but they think it is alright to kill abortion doctors, believers in other gods, philosophies and what-not.

And then there are those who believe that there are super-intelligent beings in outer space that constantly return to this planet of dummies, crash their advanced spacecraft here to let us reverse engineer their stuff so we could one day start to travel in space to destroy everything around us? Like we always want to teach animals and amoeba how to make simple weapons to beat us up?

Yep, I think human beings are incredibly dumb when seen from a higher intelligence vantage point. And I don't believe for a second that truly intelligent beings - who can travel those enormous distances- would see more than ants or amoeba in us. They would either crush us or not be interested at all. So, even if some spaceship from outer space ever landed on earth our planet surely is not interesting enough for constant visits. Else they would have kicked our a***s and removed whatever they might have found of value on this planet.

But I know, this is all VR and the moon is just 3000 miles away. ROTFLMAO.
 
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Meucciplayer said:
Oh wow. Somebody finally understood everything I discovered back in the late 70's. Flat earth, space trips, remote viewing - yeah, I even experienced remote hearing and remote farting. How I did it? Remember Yellow Sunshines? If you don't know what I am talking about - you are not one of the chosen few :-)

Back to serious arguments. If the military can do all this remote viewing stuff, why do they still get their asses kicked all the time? Why didn't they remote view Saddam or the other evil-doers, send a Cruise Missile (or better 3 or 5 at a time) right to that place where they remote viewed him?

Take another tiny example of my own philosophy: take at a look at a larger puddle of dirty water somewhere. Take a microscope. Find those tiny amoeba and other tiny living beings in there. Now imagine what those beings of a total length of a few microns believe the world - or rather the universe - to be. Yep, their galaxies, universes and so on are restricted to the very edges of this very puddle of water - if they ever got to all of the "ends of their world". You can take this further and question what the meaning of time might be for them.

So - there is an analogy there. Human beings in "their own little universe". How terribly stupid must they be when they can't even travel much farther than the moon, let alone the next galaxy. And now you tell me that those little amoeba (or less than that in universe or universes) go ahead and tell me they understand God? And there are endless forms of these amoeba tinkering with their different forms of God, Gods, Angels and so on. Some of them even believe that flying planes into the WTC will award them with 77 virgins someplace! Some of them even believe that killing is evil but they think it is alright to kill abortion doctors, believers in other gods, philosophies and what-not.

And then there are those who believe that there are super-intelligent beings in outer space that constantly return to this planet of dummies, crash their advanced spacecraft here to let us reverse engineer their stuff so we could one day start to travel in space to destroy everything around us? Like we always want to teach animals and amoeba how to make simple weapons to beat us up?

Yep, I think human beings are incredibly dumb when seen from a higher intelligence vantage point. And I don't believe for a second that truly intelligent beings - who can travel those enormous distances- would see more than ants or amoeba in us. They would either crush us or not be interested at all. So, even if some spaceship from outer space ever landed on earth our planet surely is not interesting enough for constant visits. Else they would have kicked our a***s and removed whatever they might have found of value on this planet.

But I know, this is all VR and the moon is just 3000 miles away. ROTFLMAO.
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I tend to agree with you, especially the last full paragraph. Homo Sapiens are relatively new to this 4-5 billion year old planet. We are the new kids on the block! Whether we will last as long as the dinosaurs did (30-40 million years) is open to question. We are not that highly evolved yet, being very clever but uncivilized creatures, focused on finding better ways to kill each other. I would say that our direction is more towards extinction in another million years or less. Then the next great race will inherit this Earth, because it's not going anywhere for a very long time!

Our abilities are far too limited to ever reach other similar planets outside of this solar system and survive there. We may one day have outposts on the Moon and Mars, but they are both very inhospitable places for human habitation.
 
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jay helfert said:
Whether we will last as long as the dinosaurs did (30-40 million years) is open to question. We are not that highly evolved yet, being very clever but uncivilized creatures, focused on finding better ways to kill each other. I would say that our direction is more towards extinction in another million years or less. Then the next great race will inherit this Earth, because it's not going anywhere for a very long time!
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I seriously doubt that we will last another 500 years, let alone a million. Actually, there is a pretty good chance we won't last another 50 years. We were great in developing all the tools to finish ourselves off. And more and more stupid dictators are acquiring those means. Which does not mean that the current owners are much smarter. They almost finished the human race at least 2 or 3 times already.

There is some great reading on how a Soviet submarine commander once saved us from WW3 and that was pure luck - I would not have bet on 90% of the other nuclear sub commanders, American, Soviet, French or whoever owned nukes on subs back then. People like McArthur wanted to nuke North Korea. The president back then was smart enough not to allow it. Would you bet on the current president in such a scenario, for example? I don't think we can count on this kind of luck in the future at all times.

You could argue that a few people might survive somewhere in Antarctica or New Zealand etc. Possible. But how long would it take those few to either die from radiation, a surrounding ecological system that does not sufficiently support them any more or another bout of aggression?

Just seen it - agree with Patrick Johnson. I sure hope Patrick and I are wrong.
 
Meucciplayer said:
I seriously doubt that we will last another 500 years, let alone a million. Actually, there is a pretty good chance we won't last another 50 years. We were great in developing all the tools to finish ourselves off. And more and more stupid dictators are acquiring those means. Which does not mean that the current owners are much smarter. They almost finished the human race at least 2 or 3 times already.

There is some great reading on how a Soviet submarine commander once saved us from WW3 and that was pure luck - I would not have bet on 90% of the other nuclear sub commanders, American, Soviet, French or whoever owned nukes on subs back then. People like McArthur wanted to nuke North Korea. The president back then was smart enough not to allow it. Would you bet on the current president in such a scenario, for example? I don't think we can count on this kind of luck in the future at all times.

You could argue that a few people might survive somewhere in Antarctica or New Zealand etc. Possible. But how long would it take those few to either die from radiation, a surrounding ecological system that does not sufficiently support them any more or another bout of aggression?

Just seen it - agree with Patrick Johnson. I sure hope Patrick and I are wrong.
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I give it about 500 years. One nuclear war to wipe out most technology. Then a couple of plagues and ecological disasters and we're done. We've got the very best people in charge now, to make sure that nothing is done about global warming or climate change, if you prefer. Just full throttle on the Humvees and spewing out plastic until the point of no return is reached. Then the wars for the remaining resources begin. A nuke here, a nuke there, then a thermonuclear holocaust. Survivors will be back in the middle ages again. Thanks to the good folks in India not wanting to defecate indoors or clean anything, the plague and other such bacteria have been kept alive and well. It will make its rounds. With no more medicine to help us, the results will be like in the dark ages. Of course other viruses and bacteria will take over, and now there is no unpolluted ground on which to rebuild and much less genetic diversity (because of the wars), so less chance to have people with resistance. We won't last until the ground is once again clear of radiation. Exit mankind. Good riddance.I sure hope the next race that takes over is smarter and better than us.
 
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Meucciplayer said:
Oh wow. Somebody finally understood everything I discovered back in the late 70's. Flat earth, space trips, remote viewing - yeah, I even experienced remote hearing and remote farting. How I did it? Remember Yellow Sunshines? If you don't know what I am talking about - you are not one of the chosen few :-)

Back to serious arguments. If the military can do all this remote viewing stuff, why do they still get their asses kicked all the time? Why didn't they remote view Saddam or the other evil-doers, send a Cruise Missile (or better 3 or 5 at a time) right to that place where they remote viewed him?
Actually, the military remote viewers have said that they Remote Influenced Saddam. Remote Influencing is a similar process to remote viewing, except you focus on the target's emotional state and you can communicate with their sub-conscious to manipulate them into doing things that you want them to do. I've heard that all US Presidents have a remote viewer assigned to them to head-off any remote influencing that other country's remote viewing teams might try against our own presidents.
Other countries, like Russia, China, and Israel have their own remote viewing teams. Remote viewing is not the holy grail, but it can definitely provide intelligence that cannot be obtained from any other intel methods.
Here is a vid of a military remote viewer that describes some of the work they did for the military

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER5SKo3XawM

Take another tiny example of my own philosophy: take at a look at a larger puddle of dirty water somewhere. Take a microscope. Find those tiny amoeba and other tiny living beings in there. Now imagine what those beings of a total length of a few microns believe the world - or rather the universe - to be. Yep, their galaxies, universes and so on are restricted to the very edges of this very puddle of water - if they ever got to all of the "ends of their world". You can take this further and question what the meaning of time might be for them.
All living things in the universe appear to be "connected" to each other. But more importantly, since this is a virtual reality, everything is RECORDED. Some call this the akashic records or the book of life. But I believe that this is what allows remote viewing to work. We can use our own higher-self, soul, or consciousness to focus on something and tap into the saved records and receive perceptions about the selected target anytime in the past or in the present.

So - there is an analogy there. Human beings in "their own little universe". How terribly stupid must they be when they can't even travel much farther than the moon, let alone the next galaxy. And now you tell me that those little amoeba (or less than that in universe or universes) go ahead and tell me they understand God? And there are endless forms of these amoeba tinkering with their different forms of God, Gods, Angels and so on. Some of them even believe that flying planes into the WTC will award them with 77 virgins someplace! Some of them even believe that killing is evil but they think it is alright to kill abortion doctors, believers in other gods, philosophies and what-not.
Going by the Bible, nobody has seen God the Father. God is like the "Force" from Star Wars that permeates everything and sustains it. My take on it is that God uses other beings -- angels/aliens to actually interact with us. Which is why he sent Jesus into this virtual reality to basically live a life in this matrix without sinning as an example for us. And since He was successful, we just need to recognize and use His death as a means to take us to the next level. I believe that Jesus is like the "Easter egg" that many programmers put into video games to find, and once found, give us a chance to fulfill our ultimate potential.

Again, the Bible says that ONLY God is "good". It's telling us that we need to turn to Jesus as our representative, since all other men have sinned and have fallen short. It makes sense to me that God sent His Son, Jesus, to live a life in this matrix with no sin, since we can't do it.

And finally, man cannot know what "good" is, unless there is also evil there as a contrast. Which is why there will always be evil men on earth that carry out terrorist events, etc.

And then there are those who believe that there are super-intelligent beings in outer space that constantly return to this planet of dummies, crash their advanced spacecraft here to let us reverse engineer their stuff so we could one day start to travel in space to destroy everything around us? Like we always want to teach animals and amoeba how to make simple weapons to beat us up?
I believe that the aliens and their craft are described in the Bible and that they are the angels that have come to earth and interacted with mankind throughout our entire history on earth. The Bible describes fallen angels that rebelled against God and were forced down to earth. They gave mankind a lot of forbidden technology, and even genetically altered man to create their own offspring = the giants described in the Bible.

Yep, I think human beings are incredibly dumb when seen from a higher intelligence vantage point. And I don't believe for a second that truly intelligent beings - who can travel those enormous distances- would see more than ants or amoeba in us. They would either crush us or not be interested at all. So, even if some spaceship from outer space ever landed on earth our planet surely is not interesting enough for constant visits. Else they would have kicked our a***s and removed whatever they might have found of value on this planet.
Again, going by what the Bible indicates, man was created by God (most likely through his angels) to have a unique place in the universe. If you read the Testament of Solomon, you will see how many different types, shapes, and appearances of the different types of angels and beings there are. All of the different beings created have different abilities. Some are very telepathic and some are not. Some have lots of emotions, like humans, and some have very little emotions. But God created man on earth to be a little LOWER than the angels. However, we were created with the potential to be LIKE GOD and to rule with him, if we find Jesus and accept that He sacrificed His life for us (the Easter egg we're supposed to find in this virtual reality).

But I know, this is all VR and the moon is just 3000 miles away. ROTFLMAO.
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I will try my best to answer your questions -- above in Blue type.
 
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Get_A_Grip said:
Actually, the military remote viewers have said that they Remote Influenced Saddam. Remote Influencing is a similar process to remote viewing, except you focus on the target's emotional state and you can communicate with their sub-conscious to manipulate them into doing things that you want them to do. I've heard that all US Presidents have a remote viewer assigned to them to head-off any remote influencing that other country's remote viewing teams might try against our own presidents.
Other countries, like Russia, China, and Israel have their own remote viewing teams. Remote viewing is not the holy grail, but it can definitely provide intelligence that cannot be obtained from any other intel methods.
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They sure must have done a fine job on Saddam. How come they had a high six-figure number of deaths in that war? No need to discuss numbers themselves. If those remote viewers were so great, why not just figure out where he hides and bomb him and a few of his cronies to Kingdom Come? And let everybody else live, including lost US personnel? (Not that I think this war was justified in any way - I don't miss Saddam either, but once you believe it was necessary to take him out you would also have to take out a lot of "friendly" dictators and other scumbags world-wide)

Sorry, but this whole remote viewing thingy would be great - if it existed. Or maybe not. Because you could use it for horrible things also. Which is more likely. The way the human race appears to me, anyhow.

I would love to see a credible experiment where remote viewing is proven. And it wouldn't have to be very sophisticated either.

Example: Just some pool player on this forum meeting one of these remote viewers and let him describe what kind of game I play downstairs and how many balls I made. Then let the pool player post the remote viewer's findings on this forum. I could have another person of your choice downstairs with me, without any immediate communication means like smart phones. After your viewer has seen my game or at least my room and posted it here on the forum, your trusted person over here would post pics or describe the balls I made (or did not make). Then we would easily see how close he got to reality. BTW, I live in Germany since 1976, but that should not be a problem for remote viewers ... :-) Stuff like that would convice me but I am sure a real study like the $ 1M offer's parameters would convince more people - you could still bribe me, right?! Oh, such a bribe would be really costly :-)

All of the other stuff you wrote: I don't argue with you there because I respect other people's religious beliefs. Even if I find them really strange because they contradict logic and science in many ways.

One last thing though: Your belief is one of thousands or hundreds of thousands of differing beliefs that exist on this planet. Maybe even more. So: how do you come to assume that YOUR belief is the only correct one. And not the belief of the Muslim next door. Or the Jew a mile away. Or the Buddhist ...., the Agnostic, the Atheist?

If I assume there is such a thing/being called God. Isn't it highly presumptuous to assume that such a "low-life" with very limited brains on a tiny speck in universe(s) such as I am is the only one or one of just a few who know the whole truth?

I personally am much more modest and I don't assume I understood much. I know my little amoeba puddle some - which would be the few laws of physics, technology and extent of space known to me and so on. Those are "apparently" true for me personally. Everything beyond that is like the stuff experienced on Yellow Sunshines many years ago for me - surely some altered state of mind/reality but with no significance for anyone else but me, personally.

I hope we can agree that - hopefully - over 90% of all sane people agree that the laws of physics as taught in school apply to pool, for example.

The Yellow Sunshine stuff, specific religious beliefs, philosophies are personal beliefs/experiences valid for just a tiny part of the earth's population. And the earth is just a tiny puddle with a high probability that way out there there are smarter beings than we are.

So I would never assume that too many others should share my convictions. Rather, many might consider some parts of them really crazy. Because there are no real proofs for or against them. Just assumptions on my part.
 
Meucciplayer said:
They sure must have done a fine job on Saddam. How come they had a high six-figure number of deaths in that war? No need to discuss numbers themselves. If those remote viewers were so great, why not just figure out where he hides and bomb him and a few of his cronies to Kingdom Come? And let everybody else live, including lost US personnel? (Not that I think this war was justified in any way - I don't miss Saddam either, but once you believe it was necessary to take him out you would also have to take out a lot of "friendly" dictators and other scumbags world-wide)

Sorry, but this whole remote viewing thingy would be great - if it existed. Or maybe not. Because you could use it for horrible things also. Which is more likely. The way the human race appears to me, anyhow.

I would love to see a credible experiment where remote viewing is proven. And it wouldn't have to be very sophisticated either.

Example: Just some pool player on this forum meeting one of these remote viewers and let him describe what kind of game I play downstairs and how many balls I made. Then let the pool player post the remote viewer's findings on this forum. I could have another person of your choice downstairs with me, without any immediate communication means like smart phones. After your viewer has seen my game or at least my room and posted it here on the forum, your trusted person over here would post pics or describe the balls I made (or did not make). Then we would easily see how close he got to reality. BTW, I live in Germany since 1976, but that should not be a problem for remote viewers ... :-) Stuff like that would convice me but I am sure a real study like the $ 1M offer's parameters would convince more people - you could still bribe me, right?! Oh, such a bribe would be really costly :-)

All of the other stuff you wrote: I don't argue with you there because I respect other people's religious beliefs. Even if I find them really strange because they contradict logic and science in many ways.

One last thing though: Your belief is one of thousands or hundreds of thousands of differing beliefs that exist on this planet. Maybe even more. So: how do you come to assume that YOUR belief is the only correct one. And not the belief of the Muslim next door. Or the Jew a mile away. Or the Buddhist ...., the Agnostic, the Atheist?

If I assume there is such a thing/being called God. Isn't it highly presumptuous to assume that such a "low-life" with very limited brains on a tiny speck in universe(s) such as I am is the only one or one of just a few who know the whole truth?

I personally am much more modest and I don't assume I understood much. I know my little amoeba puddle some - which would be the few laws of physics, technology and extent of space known to me and so on. Those are "apparently" true for me personally. Everything beyond that is like the stuff experienced on Yellow Sunshines many years ago for me - surely some altered state of mind/reality but with no significance for anyone else but me, personally.

I hope we can agree that - hopefully - over 90% of all sane people agree that the laws of physics as taught in school apply to pool, for example.

The Yellow Sunshine stuff, specific religious beliefs, philosophies are personal beliefs/experiences valid for just a tiny part of the earth's population. And the earth is just a tiny puddle with a high probability that way out there there are smarter beings than we are.

So I would never assume that too many others should share my convictions. Rather, many might consider some parts of them really crazy. Because there are no real proofs for or against them. Just assumptions on my part.
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The best way to prove to yourself that remote viewing works, is to learn it and try it yourself. Anyone can do it. But only 1 in 200 are really, really good at it. Go to farsight.org. They have training videos and practice targets.

There is a way to "prove" that the Biblical God and Jesus is the appropriate religion to follow. As the Bible indicates, 1 Corinthians 4:20 "For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power." Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"

Well, can we find any proof that the name of Jesus has any "power" and that all beings, in heaven, earth, and under the earth will bow or submit to the name of Jesus? Well, it just so happens that a man that was an atheist, that became a UFO Researcher at Mufon, after many years in the field discovered that the ONLY way to stop an "alien" abduction, was to call on the name of Jesus. Check out the story in the link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tStmPk9IuQk
 
Meucciplayer said:
They sure must have done a fine job on Saddam. How come they had a high six-figure number of deaths in that war? No need to discuss numbers themselves. If those remote viewers were so great, why not just figure out where he hides and bomb him and a few of his cronies to Kingdom Come? And let everybody else live, including lost US personnel? (Not that I think this war was justified in any way - I don't miss Saddam either, but once you believe it was necessary to take him out you would also have to take out a lot of "friendly" dictators and other scumbags world-wide)
Remote viewing does have limitations. Some of the big projects that were done, like on 9/11, the Pyramids of Giza, etc., take up to a full YEAR to complete! Because they use multiple viewers and conduct many, many sessions each.

A remote viewer might take an hour to determine someone's location, but the military virtually NEVER uses a single intel source to make a bombing decision or to make many other types of decisions. Very sensitive decisions, especially regarding bombing something, definitely needs more than one corroborating intel source before they would use it to bomb something.

Sorry, but this whole remote viewing thingy would be great - if it existed. Or maybe not. Because you could use it for horrible things also. Which is more likely. The way the human race appears to me, anyhow.

I would love to see a credible experiment where remote viewing is proven. And it wouldn't have to be very sophisticated either.
The military has tracked the results of their RV work in exhaustive detail. They know how accurate it is. But different people have different accuracy rates, and different people can be better at RV'ing different things too. Like one person might pick up colors extremely well, and some people might pick up energetic sources (like nukes) better than others. The Gov has declassified much of the RV data. Here is a link to some of it. Have at it...
https://archive.org/download/STARGATEDataset


Example: Just some pool player on this forum meeting one of these remote viewers and let him describe what kind of game I play downstairs and how many balls I made. Then let the pool player post the remote viewer's findings on this forum. I could have another person of your choice downstairs with me, without any immediate communication means like smart phones. After your viewer has seen my game or at least my room and posted it here on the forum, your trusted person over here would post pics or describe the balls I made (or did not make). Then we would easily see how close he got to reality. BTW, I live in Germany since 1976, but that should not be a problem for remote viewers ... :-) Stuff like that would convice me but I am sure a real study like the $ 1M offer's parameters would convince more people - you could still bribe me, right?! Oh, such a bribe would be really costly :-)
Like I said, RV has it's limitations. For example, seeing numbers is very rare. Also, dates and times are not obtainable. So if the military sees a big terrorist event in the future, they need to RV the series of other events in time that occur before the terrorist event to be able to get a handle on when the event might happen. When they see the precursor events starting to happen, and then the event happens that was just prior to the terrorist event -- then they know that the terrorist event is about to happen soon. RV is outside of time.

All of the other stuff you wrote: I don't argue with you there because I respect other people's religious beliefs. Even if I find them really strange because they contradict logic and science in many ways.

One last thing though: Your belief is one of thousands or hundreds of thousands of differing beliefs that exist on this planet. Maybe even more. So: how do you come to assume that YOUR belief is the only correct one. And not the belief of the Muslim next door. Or the Jew a mile away. Or the Buddhist ...., the Agnostic, the Atheist?

If I assume there is such a thing/being called God. Isn't it highly presumptuous to assume that such a "low-life" with very limited brains on a tiny speck in universe(s) such as I am is the only one or one of just a few who know the whole truth?

I personally am much more modest and I don't assume I understood much. I know my little amoeba puddle some - which would be the few laws of physics, technology and extent of space known to me and so on. Those are "apparently" true for me personally. Everything beyond that is like the stuff experienced on Yellow Sunshines many years ago for me - surely some altered state of mind/reality but with no significance for anyone else but me, personally.

I hope we can agree that - hopefully - over 90% of all sane people agree that the laws of physics as taught in school apply to pool, for example.

The Yellow Sunshine stuff, specific religious beliefs, philosophies are personal beliefs/experiences valid for just a tiny part of the earth's population. And the earth is just a tiny puddle with a high probability that way out there there are smarter beings than we are.

So I would never assume that too many others should share my convictions. Rather, many might consider some parts of them really crazy. Because there are no real proofs for or against them. Just assumptions on my part.
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See answers to new questions in Blue. I answered the religious question in a separate post.
 
Get_A_Grip said:
The best way to prove to yourself that remote viewing works, is to learn it and try it yourself. Anyone can do it. But only 1 in 200 are really, really good at it. Go to farsight.org. They have training videos and practice targets.
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Sorry, my lifetime is too short for such a thing. If they want to convince me, take up the $1M offer to prove it. Under scientifically sound procedures. Else I won't even waste another second on it. There are zillions of such theories and every time they are challenged by scientists they back off.

There is a way to "prove" that the Biblical God and Jesus is the appropriate religion to follow. As the Bible indicates, 1 Corinthians 4:20 "For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power." Philippians 2:10 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;"

Well, can we find any proof that the name of Jesus has any "power" and that all beings, in heaven, earth, and under the earth will bow or submit to the name of Jesus? Well, it just so happens that a man that was an atheist, that became a UFO Researcher at Mufon, after many years in the field discovered that the ONLY way to stop an "alien" abduction, was to call on the name of Jesus. Check out the story in the link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tStmPk9IuQk
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Yep. So, what does that prove? The book which is the basis of the religion is the proof? I bet the Quran, Torah and many other holy books would claim the same.

Or have at look at it in another way. What would have happened if you had been born 2100 years ago. You could not have been a Christian, right? So, you would have probably been either a follower of Judaism, Zoroastrianism or maybe a believer in Roman or Viking gods, right? And you would have told me back then that the belief you held was the only right and true one.

And sorry, a UFO researcher does not make anything more credible. On the contrary.

Please, don't feel offended. I don't want to smear your beliefs. But please do not claim they are the only valid ones. Everyone has their own beliefs. Mine are based on what science currently states and I do know that science is not even in it's infancy yet, compared to what might be discovered. But some basic principles of science held for thousands of years and make sense insofar as they can be applied to my daily needs - like playing pool :-)
 
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