And how about hanger bolts?
Hanger bolts? Never heard that term explain this for Ed please sir so he can file that
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And how about hanger bolts?
And how about hanger bolts?
greyghost;6283703....floaters were never were never to my tastes but superb work and original designs none the less [/QUOTE said:I have enough floaters in my eyes.
Don't need any on my pool cues.
I never was a fan of floating points, either.
This matter was explained by Thomas Wayne.
Bushka used phenolic in the " A-joint" and used that screw b/c his lathes' spindle were not big enough to hold the butts inside .
So, he used a steady rest and used that phenolic "buzz" ring as necessity to enforce the joint with that double screw which he found at a local hardware store.
There are so many legends and myths in cue making, I think.
And I saw that lineage chart years ago.
And somehow I ended up under two makers in the chart. Both my late mentors ended up in the chart .
One was under Tad and one was under Bert Schrager . Both Tad and Bert were under Martin's lineage.
I think that chart should stop after Tad and Schrager .
I have enough floaters in my eyes.
Don't need any on my pool cues.
I never was a fan of floating points, either.
I think he gets that recognition from the informed, but I know what you mean. I do remember a time when folks spoke of joes work sort of how we hear them speak on searing for example these days.....extremely precise work and very clean.....floaters were never were never to my tastes but superb work and original designs none the less
I think that kind of thing would be a subcategory tho
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I’ve been lucky to have been able to measure examine and even x-ray quite a few old school builders cues.
I have only owned two cues made by Chicago cue builder Eddie Laube.
I re-tipped all three of the original Laube shafts myself. Each shaft was center drilled and foam filled to reduce end mass.
Essentially the same technique that Predator cues used 30 or so years later.
Laube placed his brass pin in the shaft, similar to many early Brunswick models.
I think Laube was an innovator in attempting to reduce shaft end mass.
Eddie
Some who are more knowledgeable than I, have taken issue with that tree. You might want to contact the living cuemakers to ask their opinions.
Type79, is right - Some who are more knowledgeable than I, have taken issue with that tree. But it was a start and always changing!
Here a link to 13 pages on the "cuemaker tree" of H. Martin and its discussion https://forums.azbilliards.com/threadloom.php?query="cuemaker tree"&tab=540
Again anyone and all have my permission to use this tree.
Bob Watson AZ Member billiardshot
Type79, is right - Some who are more knowledgeable than I, have taken issue with that tree. But it was a start and always changing!
Here a link to 13 pages on the "cuemaker tree" of H. Martin and its discussion https://forums.azbilliards.com/threadloom.php?query="cuemaker tree"&tab=540
Again anyone and all have my permission to use this tree.
Bob Watson AZ Member billiardshot
Hello all,
Been think about how we got to where we currently are with cue design.
To my knowledge there are two different styles of cues;
1) Balabushka style
2) DPK style
I’m sure there are other cue styles, but those two stand out as vastly different in most ways.
Does anyone have a graph on who learned from who?
Though it would be cool to discuss the different cue types we have available to us today and how we got to this point.
JCM
I don’t mean to pooh pooh the hard work, but because there are errors in these trees, a lot of people will go forward and spread the untruth like wildfire. And I don’t think that’s good for cuemaking.
Just one man’s opinion.
Freddie <~~~ Can’t see the trees through the forest
I'd say Martin/Rambow leading to West coast/East coast, with some crossover, of course.
Its rapidly approaching.... the misinformation is an assassination on accurate history and integrity. The "facts" I have seen posted are an abomination.
JV
I'd call them inlays rather than points, imho
Jason
Floating points are just that. Like triangle style, they convey movement towards the tip of the cue. An aesthetic element that "point" forward conveying a promise of force and shot direction.
Whether spliced or inlaid they are both for the same purpose and are both points.
That said there are cues that are inlaid in the forearm that I agree are not points but just a different look.