When I messaged Leon Sly about it - he said he wasn't going to gratify it with an answer...
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What is he going to say? Wanted to put out more cues? Harris made him an offer he cant refuse?
Wanna buy a cnc?
When I messaged Leon Sly about it - he said he wasn't going to gratify it with an answer...
Hey folks, this could quickly turn into cuemaking's "Grassy Knoll". Does anyone know FOR SURE what arrangement Sly/Harris did or didn't have? Throwing out wild guesses on this is waaaay past counter-productive. This Harris dude sounds to have gone completely off-the-air and should be treated as such. Just ignore the guy.
When I messaged Leon Sly about it - he said he wasn't going to gratify it with an answer...
Harris probably made a batch of template cues. Maybe a bunch of 4 pointed cues with veneers that's why he claims he hasn't been paid. So with the Harris batch...Sly can easily add a few things here and there and inscribe his name on the cues. Selling it as his own.
Wasn't Balabushka and company using blanks from others?
This is the 21st century so cue makers are using more than blanks. The 4 point veneers are the new blanks of today.
Your account is oddly specific.
What made you think it was a single batch? What made you think it was unfinished cues? What made you think it was limited to a single style?
Would anyone pay the same price for a Rembrandt that was painted by someone other than Rembrandt? I hope not.
In most industries that is called fraud or counterfeiting, if I'm not mistaken some people here are saying that in pool it's standard business practice. And before I'm accused of it, I'm not saying the same is true if a production cue moves it's production to Japan.
Personally speaking, I'd have to be an absolute fool to buy one of these subbed out cues for anything near the price of an original, if I buy it at all.
Would anyone pay the same price for a Rembrandt that was painted by someone other than Rembrandt? I hope not.
In most industries that is called fraud or counterfeiting, if I'm not mistaken some people here are saying that in pool it's standard business practice. And before I'm accused of it, I'm not saying the same is true if a production cue moves it's production to Japan.
Personally speaking, I'd have to be an absolute fool to buy one of these subbed out cues for anything near the price of an original, if I buy it at all.
Originally Posted by jimmyg View Post
Would anyone pay the same price for a Rembrandt that was painted by someone other than Rembrandt? I hope not.
In most industries that is called fraud or counterfeiting, if I'm not mistaken some people here are saying that in pool it's standard business practice. And before I'm accused of it, I'm not saying the same is true if a production cue moves it's production to Japan.
Personally speaking, I'd have to be an absolute fool to buy one of these subbed out cues for anything near the price of an original, if I buy it at all.
I think that perspective- fraud- is a cop out.
Many cuemakers use others to get their products out there.it doesn't come to light with the drama seen here,
I will give you that.
Call it as you wish...Does misrepresentation sound better?
Seriously, if the cues are of equal quality and value, then why not be honest and state who the true builder actually is? If they are of different quality and value, what then is the purpose of misrepresenting the maker other than trying to get a higher price for the lesser quality cue? Unless of course, Szamboti is building cues for a lower end builder, which I doubt, then the customer is being treated more than fairly and all is well in the universe.
Otherwise something smells.
Call it as you wish...Does misrepresentation sound better?
Seriously, if the cues are of equal quality and value, then why not be honest and state who the true builder actually is? If they are of different quality and value, what then is the purpose of misrepresenting the maker other than trying to get a higher price for the lesser quality cue? Unless of course, Szamboti is building cues for a lower end builder, which I doubt, then the customer is being treated more than fairly and all is well in the universe.
Otherwise something smells.
Originally Posted by jimmyg View Post
Call it as you wish...Does misrepresentation sound better?
Seriously, if the cues are of equal quality and value, then why not be honest and state who the true builder actually is? If they are of different quality and value, what then is the purpose of misrepresenting the maker other than trying to get a higher price for the lesser quality cue? Unless of course, Szamboti is building cues for a lower end builder, which I doubt, then the customer is being treated more than fairly and all is well in the universe.
Otherwise something smells.
Hey Jimmy, Gus built and sold blanks to GB and what we would consider lesser cue makers in his day.
Would anyone pay the same price for a Rembrandt that was painted by someone other than Rembrandt? I hope not.
In most industries that is called fraud or counterfeiting, if I'm not mistaken some people here are saying that in pool it's standard business practice. And before I'm accused of it, I'm not saying the same is true if a production cue moves it's production to Japan.
Personally speaking, I'd have to be an absolute fool to buy one of these subbed out cues for anything near the price of an original, if I buy it at all.