Diamond versus Brunswick
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And the rest of the GC I design was not done by a pool player. It was done by some idiot modern furniture designer.
The GC V is better because they have copied some of the Diamond design, such as the flush pocket liners.
The GC III was a total disaster quality-wise around the time it came out. Broken pockets, warping and un-pinned slates, the standard gooey pocket liners, drop pockets that spit the balls back onto the table. All of that prompted one room owner to go to the BCA Trade Show to seek some help which ended in a screaming match between him and the Brunswick droids. No guarantee on commercially-used tables.
Whether the GC V has solved all of the problems of that period of the GC IIIs, I have no idea, but I would not trust Brunswick to do the right thing.
The flush pockets started with the GC IV.
In regards to solving all the problems...it depends on what you consider a problem. I think the GCV was the best table yet. However they still have manufacturing problems. I could tell you stories of my GC V purchase if you wanted to hear them. Regardless I am still very happy with my purchase and wouldn’t go back and purchase anything else.
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In regards to solving all the problems...it depends on what you consider a problem. I think the GCV was the best table yet. However they still have manufacturing problems. I could tell you stories of my GC V purchase if you wanted to hear them. Regardless I am still very happy with my purchase and wouldn’t go back and purchase anything else.
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In a perfect world I would keep my 9' GCI and replace my 7' Valley with a 7' Diamond. As soon as I have the room to do so that is exactly my intention. that slight bit bigger that a Diamond bar box is makes that virtually impossible for me at the moment.
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Hi, what year was the GC V released?
I am thinking it was 2007. I bought my GCIV at Christmas of 2002 with a early January 2003 delivery.
I've owned both and I prefer the Diamond over the GCIII. Both are good tables assuming they are set up correctly. The biggest difference to me was when I owned the GCIII and I went somewhere that had Diamonds I really struggled. Now I own a Diamond Pro Am and playing on a GC is easy.
Pretty close call between the Diamond Pro Am Blue Label and the Gold Crown V. Both are very good pool tables and have their pluses and minuses. I currently have the Diamond but previously had a GCV. Main reason being that the Diamond is the more popular tournament table in use today. All things being equal I would have been just as happy to keep my GC. I liked the GCV the best of the GC series, beautiful table and it played great (when set-up properly).
I am of the understanding that Brunswick did fix the problems they had
They hired Mark gregory to make the corrections necessary
Now the table does play better and can be bought with 4.5 or 5 inch pockets
I believe Mark told me that the Gold Crown is a far superior table to the Diamond
Don't ask me to explain it,i always preferred Gpld Crown ,in fact the diamonds play so funny to me that when the only action spot in dallas had diamonds,I did quit playing
the room did shut down and gold Crowns are the tables of choice in Dallas
I am personally installing a Gold Crown 5 in my house on Jan .8
I think the only advantage i can think of for having a diamond table is that it might be better to practice on the tables that you have to play on in the tournaments or your local pool room
From discussions with Mark, I got the idea that he did not think diamonds were good tables construction wise
They hired Mark gregory to make the corrections necessary
Now the table does play better and can be bought with 4.5 or 5 inch pockets
I believe Mark told me that the Gold Crown is a far superior table to the Diamond
Don't ask me to explain it,i always preferred Gpld Crown ,in fact the diamonds play so funny to me that when the only action spot in dallas had diamonds,I did quit playing
the room did shut down and gold Crowns are the tables of choice in Dallas
I am personally installing a Gold Crown 5 in my house on Jan .8
I think the only advantage i can think of for having a diamond table is that it might be better to practice on the tables that you have to play on in the tournaments or your local pool room
From discussions with Mark, I got the idea that he did not think diamonds were good tables construction wise
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Maybe intended to be flush -- but the steel components still do not tend to sit flush, in the new GC's I have seen around me. Poor machining details between the rails and steel parts -- who knows -- possibly not even made in the same country, let alone the same plant!
Diamonds always flush and soft on your cue.
Also, regarding Diamonds "banking short" -- they are designed to be able to manipulate your banks -- so you can hit with speed and bank really short, or you can slow roll and add a touch of english and bank wide. YOU control whether they bank short or not. That is a feature, as I understand it, that Greg Sullivan specifically wanted because he likes Banks, and wanted to give the tools to the bankers to hit them however they need to! But if you hit too hard -- yup, you will come up short
Here's some info for you. Read through this. I finally decided to stick with the GCIV.
r/DCP
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=480377
r/DCP
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=480377
Here are the facts of the matter concerning the Brunswick Gold Crown 5:
The only thing I will say about the manual is that I do not agree with the cloth installation method and it should show the Simonis Installation pattern of installation.
Trent from Toledo
Here are the facts of the matter concerning the Brunswick Gold Crown 5:
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The only thing I will say about the manual is that I do not agree with the cloth installation method and it should show the Simonis Installation pattern of installation.
Trent from Toledo
Here are the facts of the matter concerning the Brunswick Gold Crown 5:
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