Best Arrangement For 9-ball rack?

[AuntyDan]

When there is one or two balls being spotted you should usually always rack them immediately behind the 1 Ball. The two balls behind the 1 are the least likely to be made on a normal 9 Ball break. You also want to be sure do this receiving the spot as well as when you are giving it, as you don't want your opponent making the spot balls on the break and denying you a shot at them. ( unless you have specified the spot balls must be called or are spotted up if made on the break etc.)

Another little trick that is useful if you are giving up a spot in 9 Ball is, if the table it laying right, make the spot ball from a push-out even if you have an open shot at the 1 ball. This is perfectly legal unless your opponent was smart enough to specify otherwise when you negotiated the spot. (You can always choose to push out even if you can see the 1 ball.)

If you are racking for yourself and receiving a spot put the spot ball(s) in the wing ball position (Outside balls of the third row). However if your opponent is good enough to be spotting you balls they are likely to be smart enough to not let you rack for yourself.

2 great 9 Ball books with detailed chapters on breaking are "Play Your Best 9 Ball" (Full of excellent real-life examples of gameplay) and "Upscale 9 Ball" (Very dry but some really detailed research.)

 

[Snapshot9]

Racking ...

You don't put low number balls as wing balls because
if balls are tied up, you want them to be low
number balls and stop the run sooner than
being high number balls and giving a shooter
time to break them out. If you are playing
someone good, it doesn't matter if the balls
are downtable or not, they can get there.

 

[Egg McDogit]

good luck getting all this infor free

VAP

lol oh yeah faskmikie you can rig the rack to make the spot balls, but you wouldn't want to know how to do that right?

 

[FastMikie]

lol oh yeah faskmikie you can rig the rack to make the spot balls, but you wouldn't want to know how to do that right?

Not sure I catch your drift, Egg... clarification, please?

 

[Snapshot9]

Ya know ...

This has been worked on by every single person
that has ever played 9 ball, and noone has a
patented system for racking 9 ball yet.

As soon as you 'think' you have it down,
you will end up playing someone that will
make all the balls on the break they shouldn't,
and not make the balls on the break that
you think they should ...

me, I just like to rack them where they don't
make a damn ball at all, depending on how they
are breaking and legally, of course .... lol

You know, when you are watching 2 top notch
players playing a money match of 9 ball, most
of the time you don't really see the best player,
you see the best 'racker' and 'breaker'.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

This has been worked on by every single person
that has ever played 9 ball, and noone has a
patented system for racking 9 ball yet.

As soon as you 'think' you have it down,
you will end up playing someone that will
make all the balls on the break they shouldn't,
and not make the balls on the break that
you think they should ...

me, I just like to rack them where they don't
make a damn ball at all, depending on how they
are breaking and legally, of course .... lol

You know, when you are watching 2 top notch
players playing a money match of 9 ball, most
of the time you don't really see the best player,
you see the best 'racker' and 'breaker'.

When you’re racking for the dough
and you need to change the flow
just stick that nine-ball up your ass

If you want to show a trick
that your opponent cannot kick
just stick that nine-ball up your ass

Up your ass
Up your ass
Just take that nine-ball up your ass

Do whatever you need to do
Just don’t ever let him shoot
that nine-ball up your ass.


Thank you. I'm here all week.

 

[hustlefinger]

When you’re racking for the dough
and you need to change the flow
just stick that nine-ball up your ass

If you want to show a trick
that your opponent cannot kick
just stick that nine-ball up your ass

Up your ass
Up your ass
Just take that nine-ball up your ass

Do whatever you need to do
Just don’t ever let him shoot
that nine-ball up your ass.


Thank you. I'm here all week.

LOL, very funny.

But if I had a choice of taking it or sticking it, ……….I’d prefer to stick it.

Rick

 

[Egg McDogit]

Not sure I catch your drift, Egg... clarification, please?

you can rig the rack to make one of the balls under the 1

 

[jviss]

I know this is an old thread, but can anyone verify or refute the statement below?

Joe Tuckers book is a great book.... If you can't find a copy of Joe's book, it's been incorporated into a new book by Charley Bond, "The Great Break Shot".

Thanks.

 

[Runner]

When you’re racking for the dough
and you need to change the flow
just stick that nine-ball up your ass

If you want to show a trick
that your opponent cannot kick
just stick that nine-ball up your ass

Up your ass
Up your ass
Just take that nine-ball up your ass

Do whatever you need to do
Just don’t ever let him shoot
that nine-ball up your ass.


Thank you. I'm here all week.

Catchy... when's the album dropping?

 

[ChopStick]

I may have this backwards. It's been years since I played 9 ball. In addition to the above, the 2 ball goes on the opposite side from the side you opponent is breaking from. The 1 ball will tend to go back to the side the balls are being broken from. You want the 2 where they will have to cross the table to get to it. Lots of chances for happy accidents along the way.

 

[Bob Jewett]

I know this is an old thread, but can anyone verify or refute the statement below? ...

Joe Tucker's info in fact is in "The Great Break Shot". If you want the original, I have some extra copies:



Joe also has a couple of DVDs about racking.

There is also an extensive section on the rack in the DVD set I did with Dr. Dave on 9- and 10-ball. See "The Video Encyclopedia of 9-Ball and 10-Ball" at https://drdavebilliards.com/vent/ .

 

[RiverCity]

Back from the dead :grin-square:

Notice the breakers side. Reverse the balls if breaking from the other side

3-8-2 opposite the breaker, 6-5-4 on the other side, with the 7 in the back. :thumbup:

 

[jrctherake]

I've read a lot of books on pool, but it seems nowhere is there a suggested optimum way to rack for 9 ball so that it presents the toughest runout for your opponent.

Does such a thing exist? Would you tell me if you knew it?

;o)

It's called pattern racking.

It's very useful for practice and it will really, really teach you a lot about your break / control.

I would never use it 8n competition but it sure is nice to know "how" to do it ....... that way you "know" when someone else is doing it ..... and how they are doing it.

BTW, you may, like myself..... catch a lot of crap for even bringing it up. If so, ignore it and learn all you can about it so to more knowledgeable and a le to know when it's being used AGAINST YOU!!!!

 

[Black-Balled]

And I'd add that pattern racking really cannot be prevented. given the predictability of balls that go on the break, the progression can be maintained with different ball values.

 

[dr_dave]

I've read a lot of books on pool, but it seems nowhere is there a suggested optimum way to rack for 9 ball so that it presents the toughest runout for your opponent.

Does such a thing exist?

Check out the videos on the pattern racking resource page.

Enjoy,
Dave

 

[sjm]

The best racking configuration is nine on the spot.

 

[jviss]

The best racking configuration is nine on the spot.

Well, there you go, we could have saved a lot of time and effort if you had only told us earlier!

 

[jviss]

What I find kind of interesting are all the rules variations that have been variously implemented, like 9 on the spot, a break box, 3 above the head string; yet I've never heard of a rule requiring the cue to placed on the head spot for the break. Wouldn't that solve a lot of the issues?

 

[RiverCity]

What I find kind of interesting are all the rules variations that have been variously implemented, like 9 on the spot, a break box, 3 above the head string; yet I've never heard of a rule requiring the cue to placed on the head spot for the break. Wouldn't that solve a lot of the issues?

What issues would it solve?

Parica came up with the cut break in the 90s to beat the box, pretty sure it would defeat the headspot too.

I dont remember these issues before Simonis became the cloth of choice, maybe it is selective memory, but I just dont remember the wing balls being a problem on Stevens or Mali.