Shaw/ Bergman- OFF
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First time I saw Shane play.....when he was still the KID in South Dakota Kid....
...he was playing 8-ball on a Valley with Cliff Joiner....race to 25...
...when I walked, Shane was at 12.....I never saw Cliff shoot...
That was kinda exciting....well, maybe not for Cliff
First time I saw Shane play.....when he was still the KID in South Dakota Kid....
...he was playing 8-ball on a Valley with Cliff Joiner....race to 25...
...when I walked, Shane was at 12.....I never saw Cliff shoot...
That was kinda exciting....well, maybe not for Cliff
Was this at QMaster in VA?
Eric >saw that too?
Yes.....2006?....if not, 2002
First time I saw Shane play.....when he was still the KID in South Dakota Kid....
...he was playing 8-ball on a Valley with Cliff Joiner....race to 25...
...when I walked, Shane was at 12.....I never saw Cliff shoot...
That was kinda exciting....well, maybe not for Cliff
Not on a Diamond playing take what you make.
2006 sounds about right. SVB won the Open in 2007.
You might have to PM me your name. Do we know each other?
Eric
I’m thinking it’s close....running racks on Valleys and Diamonds.
Pockets tend to be bigger on a Valley.......but....
......rails are mostly inconsistent
.....cloth tends to be crappy
.....lotta the cue balls belong in a horror movie
(If I had to play on a Valley for serious $...I’d want the over size ball...it’s consistent)
True, the Diamonds tend to have tighter pockets.....but....
.....the rails tend to be consistent
.....cloth tends to be tournament grade
.....the red dot smart cue ball tends to be the best cue ball in the room
So I feel the Diamond favors the better player
Personally, I won’t play “take what you make”......
.....I consider that rule a devolution...
...if you want more luck in the game, try flipping a coin to see who shoots every shot...
For all those "relatively" high placings in One Pocket and Banks, I'd be willing to bet there are at least 5 American players who would literally swim a river of feces to play him in either of those games in a gambling match. Add another 20 or so international players? And those Duerne City Classic matches are all from a European event that zero of the top players in One Pocket or Banks actually plays in, right?
I will give you the Chinese 8 ball event. That's a real accomplishment, to go and play with those monsters and come out anywhere close to the top. But again, it's a game that rewards marksmanship above all other things. Jason's position play is not anywhere close to that of a lot of the top Filipinos, and on tight equipment, that comes to the forefront. He IS literally dead money against any top international player with a break anywhere near as good as his, in any decent length gambling match.
I'll say it right here and now.. Jason Shaw is the benificiary of the modern propensity to play all major events on looser pockets, with brand new cloth. His run and gun style plays well on this sort of equipment, but as evidenced by his performance against Aranas, the second he stops getting a straight in shot on the 1 or 2, he gets drilled. As opposed to Efren in his prime.. Efren was most dangerous when there was a little play in most racks.
Awe, you can’t let that ruin your sweet and sunny disposition bud.
“Relatively” hahaha he’s done pretty well with “thinking” games in the past few years of plying them. No, he’s not an elite 1pocket player... who cares. But he can hold his own in any game. Calling him one dimensional is silly.
How many straight in shots did he have when he beat you at Derby in the first round? Probably a lot. #stillsalty
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"incomplete player"
"dead money"
"one-dimensional"
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Oh, I didn't like him much before we played, but for the record, since you asked....
He generally plowed through the middle of the rack on the cut break, hitting 2-3 balls in the rack area, and managed to get a straight in shot at the 1 or 2 a combined total of 6 times for simple runouts. When I finally caught a break and he left the 1 ball in the center of the top rail, forcing him to play safe... I kicked it good, kicking it (intentionally) towards a corner that was blocked by the 5/9. The 1/5 was so close together and offangle he lined up to hit the 1-5 carom off the back of the 9, since it laid natural.
He hit it so bad he overcut the 1 ball by a half ball and accidentally made the 9.
I don't mind being beat by a champion at all. It's the GAME that's broke. I came up in the game where no matter who you were, you had to come up to the breakshot, knock the shit out of them, WITH CONTROL, if you were gonna run racks. It pretty much doesn't matter where you rack the 9 ball, the template racks on slick cloth mean a ball is going in automatically, somewhere, if the rack is hit atthe proper angle. Template racks have ruined 9 ball as an effective challenge.
Shaw is one of the baddest mofos out ther right now.
I really don't see how anyone could claim otherwise.
I really don't see how anyone could claim otherwise.
PT - Update? Rex snap it off?
He never recovered after missing when he was up 6-2 in game 5. Great set.