That is a neat story. I love both, but that Paradise buttsleeve is the nuts!
Historic Cues. Do you have any?
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That is a neat story. I love both, but that Paradise buttsleeve is the nuts!
I have one of the first cues made by Richard Black. A friend who passed away sold Richard insurance prior to Richard building cues. Richard was a stockbroker and sold my friend stock.
Richard bought forearms from Gus Szamboti. My friend selected a rosewood/rosewood forearm for his cue. It has 4 maple windows in the butt. Flat faced stainless steel joint. Came with two original shafts which have micarta ferrules. Later two longer shafts were added. One with ivory ferrule and one that is LBM. All 4 shafts have matching ringwork.
When Richard started signing cues, my friend took it back to him to add his signature. He refinished the butt and added "Richard Black 1975" in one of the maple windows.
I have another Richard black which has a piloted ivory joint and it was later signed "R. Black 1976. It is a rosewood merry widow with 3 small ivory diamonds in the forearm and 3 larger diamonds in the butt.
I am unable to post pics here but have some pics on facebook.
Richard bought forearms from Gus Szamboti. My friend selected a rosewood/rosewood forearm for his cue. It has 4 maple windows in the butt. Flat faced stainless steel joint. Came with two original shafts which have micarta ferrules. Later two longer shafts were added. One with ivory ferrule and one that is LBM. All 4 shafts have matching ringwork.
When Richard started signing cues, my friend took it back to him to add his signature. He refinished the butt and added "Richard Black 1975" in one of the maple windows.
I have another Richard black which has a piloted ivory joint and it was later signed "R. Black 1976. It is a rosewood merry widow with 3 small ivory diamonds in the forearm and 3 larger diamonds in the butt.
I am unable to post pics here but have some pics on facebook.
Nothing necessarily historic; however, nonetheless, some nice oldie's but goodies cue candy 
JW, Joss, Gus, Joss, Horn & Scruggs
JW, Joss, Gus, Joss, Horn & Scruggs
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Here is some History --- 3 greats --- Mosconi, Szamboti & Palmer Cues.
Palmer Cue with Szamboti forearm ordered by Willie Mosconi from Palmer. Mosconi would get these cues from Palmer and give them out when he did exhibitions. In the mid 70's he was in Seattle doing exhibition and gave this one to the owner of the place he was playing - The Owner didn't want it (Can you believe that) so sold it to local player that used it for close to 30 Years. Local cue maker Roger Pettit refinished the cue with period correct irish linen. I have owned the cue for 9 year and still in the Seattle area.
Palmer Cue with Szamboti forearm ordered by Willie Mosconi from Palmer. Mosconi would get these cues from Palmer and give them out when he did exhibitions. In the mid 70's he was in Seattle doing exhibition and gave this one to the owner of the place he was playing - The Owner didn't want it (Can you believe that) so sold it to local player that used it for close to 30 Years. Local cue maker Roger Pettit refinished the cue with period correct irish linen. I have owned the cue for 9 year and still in the Seattle area.
I have the cue Bob vanover won 10 or so Texas Opens with
The cue he ran the set 9Racks against Lizard
bert schrager cue and Fellini Fancy case made for Bob with his name engraved
Bob was the best player in the world who held a full time job,never a road player but
generally recognized as one of the greats
Many in Dallas thought he could beat anyone in the area including CJ
I saw him play a set with Buddy Hall and to my surprise many locals took Bob
to win even money
Bob won countless tournaments with this cue beating great players including Keith Mc Credie
and other great players
I just bought the cue yesterday to sell to someone who loved Bob or famous players
historical cues
After his playing days bob loaned the cue to Jack Potter who won many the dollar and loved the cue
dean
The cue he ran the set 9Racks against Lizard
bert schrager cue and Fellini Fancy case made for Bob with his name engraved
Bob was the best player in the world who held a full time job,never a road player but
generally recognized as one of the greats
Many in Dallas thought he could beat anyone in the area including CJ
I saw him play a set with Buddy Hall and to my surprise many locals took Bob
to win even money
Bob won countless tournaments with this cue beating great players including Keith Mc Credie
and other great players
I just bought the cue yesterday to sell to someone who loved Bob or famous players
historical cues
After his playing days bob loaned the cue to Jack Potter who won many the dollar and loved the cue
dean
This is one of the few threads, I wished you would/could post pics. I bet you have had more gems than most.
I actually hit a few balls with that cue..
Jimmy is from my hometown Scranton ,Pa.
I am guessing it was around 1980.
HE came into Idle hour lanes to practice and called me over to see his cue.
I asked to hit a few with it and he handed it to me..
I knew him pretty well so its not like he handed it to anybody..
just a little FYI on History of it.....
Jimmy is from my hometown Scranton ,Pa.
I am guessing it was around 1980.
HE came into Idle hour lanes to practice and called me over to see his cue.
I asked to hit a few with it and he handed it to me..
I knew him pretty well so its not like he handed it to anybody..
just a little FYI on History of it.....
I've been playing with this cue for the last 3 or 4 times I've played and it plays well. Maybe not as well for me as it did CJ, but whose counting balls?
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Thanks Doc, and nice wedge style cue you posted. I don't bump old threads I started, but glad you continue to show interest in this one. My one suggestion to anyone who wants to show some historic cues, is don't use third party photo apps such as Photobucket, Imgur, or any of the others. They all expire and either delete the pictures or blur them. Take the picture yourself, any smartphone can do it. Best to transfer it to your computer if too difficult to resize on your camera or smartphone. Resize it if it won't fit and show it.
All the best,
WW
I don't think I posted this here before.
I will add a cue made by HARRY SIMS, USBA NATIONAL CHAMPION
Yes, I chalked and played it, of course.
Legend says Harry ran 11 racks of 9-ball before he became a
serious 3-Cushion player and quit the game of pool, earning 2 National Championships and
1 2nd place as well as earning the title of Grand Master. He said he switched from pool to 3-Cushion because there was no
more challenge left for him in pool.
Sadly, we lost him in 2006. https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/sad-news-harry-sims-3-cushion-champ.46931/
I had the privilege of speaking to someone that knew him closely.
I think I did post somewhere in the forums about this cue. But now it's here, resized, uploaded to AZB, and it will not be lost.
I will add a cue made by HARRY SIMS, USBA NATIONAL CHAMPION
Yes, I chalked and played it, of course.
Legend says Harry ran 11 racks of 9-ball before he became a
serious 3-Cushion player and quit the game of pool, earning 2 National Championships and
1 2nd place as well as earning the title of Grand Master. He said he switched from pool to 3-Cushion because there was no
more challenge left for him in pool.
Sadly, we lost him in 2006. https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/sad-news-harry-sims-3-cushion-champ.46931/
I had the privilege of speaking to someone that knew him closely.
I think I did post somewhere in the forums about this cue. But now it's here, resized, uploaded to AZB, and it will not be lost.
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Thanks to @Chopdoc for reviving this thread. I can't believe it's been nine years since I started it. A lot of great cues have been shown here, with pieces of historical significance. I started it off with a Joss cue, only historic because it had six veneered points. Between myself and a few other aficionados, we figure there were only a few made in their early days. I acquired another one way later, and it's so early a Joss that I figured it deserved a spot here. Definitely during the Bill Stroud era of Janes and Stroud. There weren't models back then. They were all custom. This was a typical style though, a windows butt sleeve with inlays inside, a ring above the wrap with inlays, and inlays inside the points. Thick veneers too. In those days, it took about $300 to $350 to buy this cue. Shows how times have changed.
If you missed this thread the first time around, and have some cues that have some historical significance, feel free to put them up. But don't use third party photo apps like Photobucket and the like, or they'll disappear at some point.
All the best,
WW
If you missed this thread the first time around, and have some cues that have some historical significance, feel free to put them up. But don't use third party photo apps like Photobucket and the like, or they'll disappear at some point.
All the best,
WW
