Willy Mosconi never won a world 9 ball championship, Earl Strickland won it 6 times, shouldn't the cup be the "Strickland Cup" of 9 ball?
For me, Competitive sports accomplishments are Everything. Competition adds an element to sports achievement that nothing else can compare. I know that John talked about feeling the most pressure of his life running those last balls closing in on 526- but in a competitive 14.1 World Event you have that pressure on every shot, in a sense, because the person in the seat can get up and run 150 anytime- that is how all the 14.1 greats viewed the game- you did everything to keep the other guy from the table with an open shot; so to me; doing that for an entire tournament against the very best in the world is a greater accomplishment.
Good post.Competition achievements > exhibition achievements
Willie’s 526 was the cherry on his legendary career. John’s 626 is a better cherry and worthy of celebration and accolades. But Mosconi had a better career and maintains his legend.
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Just a correction - Earl won WPA World 9b Championships "only" 3 times (1990, 1991 and 2002)![]()
Despite all the debate, I can't get past the fact that 526 on an 8 footer is probably one of Mosconi's somewhat lesser achievements.Which do you think is a larger accomplishment: JS's running 625 to beat WM by 100 or Thorsten's 5 World titles? Just curious. I have my opinion on this and would like to hear other's takes.
No comparison. A single world championship is a bigger achievement than a record run. A record run is a unique achievement and It doesn’t take too much to both respect it as a special achievement and recognise the weight of a world championship.
No comparison. A single world championship is a bigger achievement than a record run. A record run is a unique achievement and It doesn’t take too much to both respect it as a special achievement and recognise the weight of a world championship.
I’d say the record is definitely bigger than a single world championship. There is a world champion every year (every year a championship event is held) but a massive record like this may happen once in a decade, generation, or century. Trying to compare it to the impressiveness of 5, or any number, of world championships is a little trickier. I guess it depends on who’s doing the apppreciating.
And to whoever that was a few pages ago: who cares if mosconi didn’t care about running a bunch of balls? He did it and set the bar for the outlying high run of an extremely good player, and people have been trying to beat that high run for years and now someone finally has. No need to get all crazy over it. Straight pool is about running balls after all. It’s the whole point. The safety aspect is only there to prevent your opponent from running out on you, and hopefully get you a shot to run out on him..and if you can run out for 100’s when you get to the table you should be good to go. There. Some straight pool 101 for yous.
Oh but he locked himself in a room with ideal conditions! Or did he go to a pool hall with people watching and taping and play on a 5” pocket table. An easy table by my incredible pool standards but not some kind of gaff contraption where you can’t miss.
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Lou
Thats just like, your opinion man
One pocket: a game of controlled aggression
CTE haters, how can they wake up every day like that (paraphrased)
Who witnessed your 311, a plant in the corner?
All they want to do is sit and watch, while you run out (something similar)
There’s a pocket imprinted on the back of every ball
Such and such custome cues
Lionize your game
I respect all pool games, but bar rules are my jam (paraphrased)
Let the trolls hate or some such
If this is directed at me I will need a translator.
Lou Figueroa
No no I was just feeling frisky because of the nice weather and decided to add the signatures of anyone I could remember off the top of my head. My mind gets going sometimes
If this is directed at me I will need a translator.
Lou Figueroa
Or at least the same plant material. :thumbup:
Or at least the same plant material. :thumbup:
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.lol.
Quick funny story: Gail and I were in Amsterdam a couple of years ago and towards the end of our trip I tell her that I wanted to sample a local "coffee" shop. She's like, "OK." But can tell she's not wild about the idea.
Anywhos, we swing a dead cat and hit a coffee shop, go upstairs, and share one of the Netherland's finest. A little while later we go out into the Dutch sun, hit a famous landmark bar, and sit down to enjoy a beer.
Shortly thereafter, Gail turns to me and says, "I think... I've forgotten... how to walk" and starts giggling.
I start laughing my ass off and then she very earnestly looks me in the eye and says to me, like out of an old WWII movie, "Please... don't leave me behind."
I laugh some more and get us safely back to our hotel.
Lou Figueroa
If you had a year and you had to either 1) run 626 or 2) win a world championship, which would you pick? They would obviously both be long shots, but which would be your best bet?
I'd go with the WC. With outstanding play, a lucky draw, and some good rolls, it is at least possible that I could get a WC thanks to the potential for my opponents making blunders. There is simply no chance I could run 626. For this reason I think the WC isn't as difficult.
But I get where sjm is coming from and am not trying to elevate JS over guys that have devoted decades of their life to actual competition and gotten the job done. Just thinking of this question from another angle.
Yeah but his greatest run was the 87 he ran in Okmulgee,Ok. to get out of jail.Nuff said.