Mr 600

Of course he's going to release video -- he wants to make money off the run, duh.

Now whether it'll be edited or unedited remains to be seen. Regardless, the truth of the matter is that as far as percentages go, the greatest percentage dan't care about a 14.1 run anywhichway. Even for those that care the moment has passed and interest dropped. I hope he sells a million of them but I kinda doubt it.

Lou Figueroa
 
You make perfect sense.
However, in this silly game of pool, there exists god worshipers. And when the god gets toppled the worshipers go batcrazy.
That's the way it is with the Mosconi worshipers. Willie Mosconi is their god and "how dare someone beat his record".
I don't believe Mosconi ran 526 either. I think it was all lies by a bunch of drunks at some obscure pool room somewhere. Never happened....no movie film of it has ever been produced as evidence.
Merely some signed paper by a bunch of drunk ass pool players. And some comments from a book about the master liar himself...the one who claims to have run 526 balls. Doesn't mean a thing.

In all fairness, these “god worshipers” don’t exist only in Pool. I remember hearing that when Roger Maris broke Babe Ruth’s single season HR record, there was significant pushback because the season contained 162 vs. 154 games. And for many years, there was an asterisk placed next to Maris’ record (I believe it was later removed). We grow up with our sports idols as superheroes don’t want to see them turn human.
 
The BCA advised, that "After reviewing the unedited video they are proud to announce John Schmidt's 626 run as the new 14.1 exhibition high run?


Yeah, it's over. But, by all means, the folks nobody heard of and never won a thing in pool, keep arguing to protect Mosconi's legacy... because even that doesn't need protecting with his dozen or so world championships, and one of the best, if not the best, to ever play the game.

carry on. I"m sure the only 1% can't wait to hear what you have to say next.

:dance::kiss::smash:
 
The BCA advised, that "After reviewing the unedited video they are proud to announce John Schmidt's 626 run as the new 14.1 exhibition high run?


Yeah, it's over. But, by all means, the folks nobody heard of and never won a thing in pool, keep arguing to protect Mosconi's legacy... because even that doesn't need protecting with his dozen or so world championships, and one of the best, if not the best, to ever play the game.

carry on. I"m sure the only 1% can't wait to hear what you have to say next.

:dance::kiss::smash:

But, but, but, they're in cahoots with JS.
 
JS wouldn't give any of you the time of day unless you were to pay homage.

Records are not based on if we like JS or not. I never met the guy. Heck, he might not like me ;)

So, facts are facts, they don't change because you have an ax to grind.

There are a few pool players I don't care for much, but I don't make a history of chasing them around and telling them what they did wrong, and telling them they are not champs when they win. But, enjoy, I'm sure JS will walk away from the record he set if there are just a few more posts. You're getting so close, don't stop now boys !!
 
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Learn to use the quote function. I don't want my name on your drivel.

Palsy Walsy ???? WTF. What year is this, 1932?

So now it's the end of the table he used is it? What other nuggets are in your back pocket. He wore shorts you know...better look into that advantage.



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So now it's the end of the table he used is it? What other nuggets are in your back pocket. He wore shorts you know...better look into that advantage.

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Don't be so quick to dismiss this -- I think it falls into a category not unlike "wind assistance" in sprint races.

Look up something like "diagram" or "layout of a pool table" and you'll get results that clearly show what end of the table the balls are supposed to be racked at. Why would you go to the opposite end if it wasn't strictly to gain an advantage that others have not enjoyed? If you think it makes no difference, consider the next big 10ball tournament when one player suddenly decides he wants the balls racked at the head of the table, lol.

Lou Figueroa
 
Don't be so quick to dismiss this -- I think it falls into a category not unlike "wind assistance" in sprint races.

Look up something like "diagram" or "layout of a pool table" and you'll get results that clearly show what end of the table the balls are supposed to be racked at. Why would you go to the opposite end if it wasn't strictly to gain an advantage that others have not enjoyed? If you think it makes no difference, consider the next big 10ball tournament when one player suddenly decides he wants the balls racked at the head of the table, lol.

Lou Figueroa
Of course it makes a difference, why else would he switch? I think the wind direction comparison is a bit of a stretch but yes, he did it obviously because he liked that end better. Is it any different than if they had put new cloth on or even new cushions on the night before. As far as I know the ends of a pool table are technically the same and if I recall when I had an older drop pocket Brunswick the only difference was one end had a (in the case of my table...missing) nameplate.

Maybe he went to barboxrules.com and got confused about which end to use.

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Of course it makes a difference, why else would he switch? I think the wind direction comparison is a bit of a stretch but yes, he did it obviously because he liked that end better. Is it any different than if they had put new cloth on or even new cushions on the night before. As far as I know the ends of a pool table are technically the same and if I recall when I had an older drop pocket Brunswick the only difference was one end had a (in the case of my table...missing) nameplate.

Maybe he went to barboxrules.com and got confused about which end to use.

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JS said he moved to that end because it broke out the balls better ,


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You still got it wrong radar.

It's just one click, it's as easy as making balls in big pockets


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Of course it makes a difference, why else would he switch? I think the wind direction comparison is a bit of a stretch but yes, he did it obviously because he liked that end better. Is it any different than if they had put new cloth on or even new cushions on the night before. As far as I know the ends of a pool table are technically the same and if I recall when I had an older drop pocket Brunswick the only difference was one end had a (in the case of my table...missing) nameplate.

Maybe he went to barboxrules.com and got confused about which end to use.

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I don't think you can simplify it to liking one end better than the other.

I think it was said somewhere that there was a noticeable difference in how the balls broke open at one end v the other on that particular table. And honestly, that would be true of almost any table. Consider that on virtually any table, from a Diamond to an old Brunswick, over time the breaking end of the table gets a bit lumpy with the balls being repeatedly racked and broken at that end mit the occasional idiot that pounds the balls in the rack area to make them behave.

So everyone, including Mosconi, was playing with the balls racked at the foot of the table and now one guy in the history of pool racks them the other end and runs a bunch.

I'm not so sure the wind assist comparison is that far off.

Lou Figueroa
 
Hey, I just noticed were over 30,000 views on this thread.

If JS had the same attitude as JB he'd be thanking us all for the great publicity, lol.

Lou Figueroa
just sayin'
 
Hey, I just noticed were over 30,000 views on this thread.

If JS had the same attitude as JB he'd be thanking us all for the great publicity, lol.

Lou Figueroa
just sayin'

The problem is that it's a fraction of that in actual body count ,


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I'm not so sure the wind assist comparison is that far off.



Lou Figueroa

If he had put bricks under the feet at one end so the balls went in the pockets by themselves I'd agree.

So far, nobody has suggested bricks were used.

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If he had put bricks under the feet at one end so the balls went in the pockets by themselves I'd agree.

So far, nobody has suggested bricks were used.

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Well.... we haven't seen the tape yet have we.

Lou Figueroa
I kid, I kid
 
Well.... we haven't seen the tape yet have we.

Lou Figueroa
I kid, I kid

And given this amount of time to edit with today's editing apps who knows , why did it take so long for the BCA to get a copy, that should have been sent the next day in original form , it takes seconds ok minutes to copy it and send it for verification and you still have a copy to use for production,
You would have to be a complete idiot not to know it was going to be questioned ,


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In golf, every course is different - length, trees, water, rough, traps, even Par. Yet we still recognize the 3 golfers who shot 59 in a PGA round.

In football, playing conditions differ in every stadium, dome vs outdoors, grass vs. turf, altitude vs. sea level, etc... Yet, we still keep and recognize records.

In baseball, every field is different, dimensions, altitude, etc... Yet, we still keep and recognize records.

In fact, there was a very interesting TED talk by David Epstein where he attributes nearly all of the historical improvement in 100m dash times to improvements in track surfaces, shoes, etc ...

Conditions change in EVERY sport. But that doesn’t reduce or minimize the significance of record setting accomplishments of today, the past, or the future.

Sorry, but yours is not even close to a reasonable comparison, the situations are entirely dissimilar and you're picking the points that support your argument while ignoring those that do not.

Yes, golf courses have different configurations but the playing and equipment rules remain the same on all courses.

Almost the same with baseball fields, although the outfields differ, the infields, playing and equipment rules are totally uniform. No pine tar bats or spit balls.

With football, the fields, playing and equipment rules are all uniform. When playing in the elements, the weather can never be controlled and made uniform.

The same applies to the NBA, the game is played uniformly regardless of the venue, ball and hoop size and height aren't adjusted for the sake of records.

Of course, over time, rules and playing field changes have taken place, I believe that the NBA hoop height has been changed and the baseball has been rumored to have been "juiced". But at any given point in time the playing and equipment rules, and most field sizes remain uniform throughout the sport. Yet, even with that uniformity, records have, and will, be argued forever, some for valid reasons like longer and shorter seasons, and others emotionally. Such is the nature of man.

I can go on with professional sport after professional sport, and my arguments remain virtually the same until we come to "professional" pool, which, because of the lack of a national sanctioning and governing organization, remains the wild west. Therefore, without standardized rules and organizational oversight, one has to expect rule creativity and the resultant controversy.
 
And given this amount of time to edit with today's editing apps who knows , why did it take so long for the BCA to get a copy, that should have been sent the next day in original form , it takes seconds ok minutes to copy it and send it for verification and you still have a copy to use for production,
You would have to be a complete idiot not to know it was going to be questioned ,


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When was it sent?
 
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