Mr 600

lfigueroa

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Man this is still going on lol...

Lou - have you ever seen John polish balls during a run? You have mentioned it many times now and have intimated that he polishes them in a machine before every break shot so they will spread better, thus cheating. I’ve never seen him do it or heard of it from anyone but you, who has been proven to be a non objective participant in this situation lol.

Xradarx - are you claiming to be Frank Alamanza? Also...can you actually play pool at all?




You know he played on a table with big 5” pockets?


I have not intimated anything that I recall.

In fact, just a bit back in this thread, I said something to the effect that I had absolutely no idea if there was any ball polishing going on during the 626. My recollection is that the issue was brought to a head by one stroke who specifically asked me about ball polishing but just as a general topic for discussion. Have I seen JS polish them up "often" during a run? Yes, and I seem to recall he and I had some interesting repartee about the subject back when it happened. Was it going on during the 626? No idea.

Lou Figueroa
 

Black-Balled

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I have not intimated anything that I recall.

In fact, just a bit back in this thread, I said something to the effect that I had absolutely no idea if there was any ball polishing going on during the 626. My recollection is that the issue was brought to a head by one stroke who specifically asked me about ball polishing but just as a general topic for discussion. Have I seen JS polish them up "often" during a run? Yes, and I seem to recall he and I had some interesting repartee about the subject back when it happened. Was it going on during the 626? No idea.

Lou Figueroa

And we also really have no idea about cleaning of the balls during the 526 either.
 

JazzyJeff87

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I have not intimated anything that I recall.

In fact, just a bit back in this thread, I said something to the effect that I had absolutely no idea if there was any ball polishing going on during the 626. My recollection is that the issue was brought to a head by one stroke who specifically asked me about ball polishing but just as a general topic for discussion. Have I seen JS polish them up "often" during a run? Yes, and I seem to recall he and I had some interesting repartee about the subject back when it happened. Was it going on during the 626? No idea.

Lou Figueroa

Bringing it up in every thread that has to do with this run counts in my book, PR techniques. Casting shadows.

Which reminds me. Eyedea - even shadows have shadows. A very good song.

Do you consider wiping them down with a rag to be polishing? I guess technically he could have something on the rag though :yikes: and we’d never know,
 

lfigueroa

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Bringing it up in every thread that has to do with this run counts in my book, PR techniques. Casting shadows.

Which reminds me. Eyedea - even shadows have shadows. A very good song.

Do you consider wiping them down with a rag to be polishing? I guess technically he could have something on the rag though :yikes: and we’d never know,


Well, like I said, I was responding to a query from one stroke.

If you want to talk about PR front loading we could try talking about press releases, BCA certification, congratulations from other pros, and a promo video before seeing the actual run. Personally, I'd like to watch the movie itself before voting it an Oscar for best picture.

As you've point out, wiping them down with a rag is problematic because there's no way of knowing what's on the rag. I know DH has voiced a problem with opponents using a rag.

Lou Figueroa
 

xradarx

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JS626 polish balls

Doug Desmond's gloves. He touched every ball racked from start to finish. Just another innocent bystander, not. I didn't see his gloves listed in the sponsor's list.
 

JazzyJeff87

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Well, like I said, I was responding to a query from one stroke.

If you want to talk about PR front loading we could try talking about press releases, BCA certification, congratulations from other pros, and a promo video before seeing the actual run. Personally, I'd like to watch the movie itself before voting it an Oscar for best picture.

As you've point out, wiping them down with a rag is problematic because there's no way of knowing what's on the rag. I know DH has voiced a problem with opponents using a rag.

Lou Figueroa


Fair enough. I’d also like to see. If we say it often, and loudly enough, it just might happen.

Doug Desmond's gloves. He touched every ball racked from start to finish. Just another innocent bystander, not. I didn't see his gloves listed in the sponsor's list.

Lol...what up Balls?
 

logical

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He ran the 526 in just over two hours, around four balls a minute -- no time to polish the balls ;-)



Lou Figueroa
I thought that 2 hour-ish time was the portion after the exhibition match ended and he was already at 150 or 200.

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lfigueroa

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I thought that 2 hour-ish time was the portion after the exhibition match ended and he was already at 150 or 200.

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No, according to his autobiography: "I was playing a two-hundred-point match against an amateur by the name of Earl Bruney in the East High Billiard Club. He made three balls off the break, them I ran two hundred and just kept going. The run took two hours and ten minutes, which means that over that span I averaged four balls a minute."

If you figure in time to collect the balls and rack them almost 40 times he might have been closer to five balls a minute.

Lou Figueroa
 

DynoDan

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We really should look into the whole cloth color aspect of this next. Even if they were both green were they the same shade of green?

And if 626 was on blue I suspect the whole thing is null and void.

Actually, there may be something to that. The common cliche ‘color blind’, is a much more complicated/multi-faceted array of specific vision impairments than is generally appreciated.
The way a ball’s color may merge with it’s cloth background might possible effect a shooter’s skill/ability & results (?).
 

BJTyler

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which is precisely why I think the 526 is BS too. I have the record for most consecutive made 3 pointers from NBA range in history...oh I mean the hoop was bigger, but thats cool right? Gtfo. In NO other sport would we think this was okay.

In golf, every course is different - length, trees, water, rough, traps, even Par. Yet we still recognize the 3 golfers who shot 59 in a PGA round.

In football, playing conditions differ in every stadium, dome vs outdoors, grass vs. turf, altitude vs. sea level, etc... Yet, we still keep and recognize records.

In baseball, every field is different, dimensions, altitude, etc... Yet, we still keep and recognize records.

In fact, there was a very interesting TED talk by David Epstein where he attributes nearly all of the historical improvement in 100m dash times to improvements in track surfaces, shoes, etc ...

Conditions change in EVERY sport. But that doesn’t reduce or minimize the significance of record setting accomplishments of today, the past, or the future.
 

wayne

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Fair enough. I’d also like to see. If we say it often, and loudly enough, it just might happen.



Lol...what up Balls?

John Schmidt quote on facebook "I'm tempted to never release the 626 just to piss off the haters."

This would leave one poster like Jack Nicholson in the Shining, typing over and over for years on end: WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?WHERE IS THE VIDEO?
 

DynoDan

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We really should look into the whole cloth color aspect of this next. Even if they were both green were they the same shade of green?
And if 626 was on blue I suspect the whole thing is null and void.

The reported specs. of John’s equip./cloth is ‘Tournament Green’ (as retailers like to label what the manufacturer calls ‘Simonis Green’), and looks pretty much the same color as what I learned to play on, and what every pre-60s room I was ever in used to cover their tables, so I doubt it could be a real issue.

While beside the point of this thread, I would just like to touch on the ‘color’ issue in general: (there is an entire scientific category of study related to ‘color’, and it's effect on human emotion & personality).
Likely it’s merely environmental conditioning, but to me, there is just something WRONG about ‘Tournament Blue’ cloth! I know room owners only order whatever color is most popular with customers & local competing rooms, but I just can’t seem to get in ‘the zone’ playing on it. Something subconsciously disconcerting that I can’t put my finger on. Or, maybe I am only unknowingly associating it’s (increasingly) more common popularity with my aging/declining playing skills (?). Go figure.
 

pt109

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John Schmidt quote on facebook "I'm tempted to never release the 626 just to piss off the haters."

That would be unwise of John to the point of childishness.....
...I don’t know about the general social media...but it probably resembles AZ.

If all the posters on the 626 threads were totalled up......
...and counted like election votes....
...JOHN SCHMIDT WINS BY A LANDSLIDE!

What does he want?....100% acclamation?
Aint gonna happen...but he’s very popular
 

wayne

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That would be unwise of John to the point of childishness.....
...I don’t know about the general social media...but it probably resembles AZ.

If all the posters on the 626 threads were totalled up......
...and counted like election votes....
...JOHN SCHMIDT WINS BY A LANDSLIDE!

What does he want?....100% acclamation?
Aint gonna happen...but he’s very popular

Yes he was joking and he said he would never withhold it because 99 percent support him (1 percent vocal haters)
 
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