Cool aiming vid............

BC21 said:
I can make shots with manual pivoting, the ones that just happen to work, the exact same shots Stan shoots under the curtains, plus straight ins using a 15 outside.
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That's the allure to newbies. There have been one or two new players in this forum over the last year who try it and say, "Hey, this seems to work"! Then they tell you that their success rate is like 50%.

They don't have the experience to realize that some shots naturally go with Stan's system but some fudging away from the defined system is the only way all the other shots work. The problem is that they blame themselves when those shots don't go, which is counter productive to their progress, IMO.
 
Low500 said:
This is one of the reasons you get taken to task so much with your bombastic claims.(refer to what is in red).
How could you possibly know what is the mind of a bigtime pro player and then declare "I guarantee you they were 100% sure about the aiming"..??????
You are just a rank amateur....you can't know that. It is merely a supposition.
By the way, I checked the entries at the big amateur event in Florida and I don't see one single "red hot" from this aiming forum signed up anywhere. Why aren't you there?
I don't see Brian Crist, Patrick Johnson, Boxcar, Joey Bautista, Dan White...why not?
I can guarantee this....after I've had a good many more hours with this Pro One, I am going to enter (if I am still alive) that tournament next year and I sincerely hope YOU show up with your poolology fractions.
We'll see what is what. Write that down in your book, young man....you can take a shot at my old ass right there under the lights.
You better bring your lunch.
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This post shows you still have quite a bit to learn. You don't just pay an entry fee and play in the US Amateur. You have to win a local qualifier for an entry. Cookie did it and congrats to him.

Personally I have no interest in playing in the US Amateur. I might be able to win a local qualifier if I entered. There are probably a dozen players here who can win a local qualifier on any given day in my area.

Say I win the qualifier. I believe room and entry are paid for but then I would have to fly to Florida. I am not looking to spend that kind of money to play an amateur tournament for no real prize unless I win the whole thing. The chances of winning the US Amateur for me are basically zero with guys like Parks and Schaad playing. I may beat them with some good rolls and playing my top speed but on average I would get smoked. There are players here who could win if they entered but it isn't worth their time to play a week long tournament without prize money.
 
Dan White said:
That's the allure to newbies. There have been one or two new players in this forum over the last year who try it and say, "Hey, this seems to work"! Then they tell you that their success rate is like 50%.

They don't have the experience to realize that some shots naturally go with Stan's system but some fudging away from the defined system is the only way all the other shots work. The problem is that they blame themselves when those shots don't go, which is counter productive to their progress, IMO.
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Glad to see you back.:smile:
 
BC21 said:
Glad to see you back.:smile:
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Thanks, Brian! Some of the crank snowflakes around here have a hair trigger finger with that report button so I have to watch what I say. I always try to stick to the facts the way you do, but on occasion they get my goat and then I get bounced, lol. C'est la vie.
 
The bell may toll for you also....

nine_ball6970 said:
The chances of winning the US Amateur for me are basically zero with guys like Parks and Schaad playing. I may beat them with some good rolls and playing my top speed but on average I would get smoked. There are players here who could win if they entered but it isn't worth their time to play a week long tournament without prize money.
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Your post shows YOU still have quite a bit to learn as well.
BRIAN PARKS USES CTE AND IS A CERTIFIED CTE INSTRUCTOR. HE'S FLOWN FROM CA TO KY A NUMBER OF TIMES TO GET LESSONS FROM STAN.
He has the best record over a period of years in the history of the US AM in pool.
2018 - 4th
2017 - 1st
2016 - 1st
2014 - 4th
2013 - 1st
2012 - 1st
2010 - 3rd
2009 - 1st
2008 - 3rd
2006 - 4th
Why don't you point out that Mr. Parks is a Certified CTE Instructor?
Maybe you could sign up and get lessons.
 
Low500 said:
Your post shows YOU still have quite a bit to learn as well.
BRIAN PARKS USES CTE AND IS A CERTIFIED CTE INSTRUCTOR. HE'S FLOWN FROM CA TO KY A NUMBER OF TIMES TO GET LESSONS FROM STAN.
He has the best record over a period of years in the history of the US AM in pool.
2018 - 4th
2017 - 1st
2016 - 1st
2014 - 4th
2013 - 1st
2012 - 1st
2010 - 3rd
2009 - 1st
2008 - 3rd
2006 - 4th
Why don't you point out that Mr. Parks is a Certified CTE Instructor?
Maybe you could sign up and get lessons.
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Brian Parks is a great player. He must've been using CTE half a dozen years before Stan even put out the DVDs, or several years before actually going to Stan to become a certified CTE instructor. That's impressive. No wonder he's so good.. .he's a time traveler!
 
Low500 said:
Your post shows YOU still have quite a bit to learn as well.
BRIAN PARKS USES CTE AND IS A CERTIFIED CTE INSTRUCTOR. HE'S FLOWN FROM CA TO KY A NUMBER OF TIMES TO GET LESSONS FROM STAN.
He has the best record over a period of years in the history of the US AM in pool.
2018 - 4th
2017 - 1st
2016 - 1st
2014 - 4th
2013 - 1st
2012 - 1st
2010 - 3rd
2009 - 1st
2008 - 3rd
2006 - 4th
Why don't you point out that Mr. Parks is a Certified CTE Instructor?
Maybe you could sign up and get lessons.
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I like the fact that out of my entire post the only thing you respond to is my mention of Brian Parks and absolutely nothing else.

I have known Brian for longer than your results go back. I was not aware of the fact that he is a CTE instructor. Maybe I will talk to him about it sometime.

I have gotten lessons from many well known instructors. I have owned both of the CTE dvds. My playing ability or lack thereof I attribute more to mental issues rather than how I aim. I am not clueless at the table by any means. I was a grandmaster in NAPA when I played that league. I have strong cue ball control but sometimes struggle with ball pocketing. I can run multiple racks easily or miss a couple shots in the same game.

Anywho, I am glad CTE works so well for you but does anybody know how well you play? Just curious.
 
nine_ball6970 said:
I like the fact that out of my entire post the only thing you respond to is my mention of Brian Parks and absolutely nothing else.
I have known Brian for longer than your results go back. I was not aware of the fact that he is a CTE instructor. Maybe I will talk to him about it sometime.
I have gotten lessons from many well known instructors. I have owned both of the CTE dvds. My playing ability or lack thereof I attribute more to mental issues rather than how I aim. I am not clueless at the table by any means. I was a grandmaster in NAPA when I played that league. I have strong cue ball control but sometimes struggle with ball pocketing. I can run multiple racks easily or miss a couple shots in the same game.<====get some lessons from Mr. Parks and cure all that.
Anywho, I am glad CTE works so well for you but does anybody know how well you play? Just curious.
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I play terrible...but better than BC-21...you know him, "Mister Poolology"
(which I will prove when I find him in West Virginia)
 
Low500 said:
I play terrible...but better than BC-21...you know him, "Mister Poolology"
(which I will prove when I find him in West Virginia)
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That's good to hear. Maybe I'll finally get some weight instead of dishing it out. You just let me know when you can make it up here to the 21 Poolroom in Charleston WV. We have a few 9ft diamonds, 7ft diamonds, and a Valley barbox. Your choice. I'll take the wild 7.

There are plenty of chairs, and I'll make sure yours is padded. :thumbup:
 
Save that Confederate money, gents..the Rebs are on the way to W. Virginia

BC21 said:
That's good to hear. Maybe I'll finally get some weight instead of dishing it out. You just let me know when you can make it up here to the 21 Poolroom in Charleston WV. We have a few 9ft diamonds, 7ft diamonds, and a Valley barbox. Your choice. I'll take the wild 7.
There are plenty of chairs, and I'll make sure yours is padded. :thumbup:
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YOU...the "expert on anything and everything" wants a spot?
Mister BC-21, the All-Knowing, All wise Counselor to the World, wants a spot from an old worn out bum like ME..?????
Why don't you just use that phony ass book of yours, proceed to "never miss a ball again", and beat the daylights out of old me ?
You're going down.
 
Low500 said:
YOU...the "expert on anything and everything" wants a spot?
Mister BC-21, the All-Knowing, All wise Counselor to the World, wants a spot from an old worn out bum like ME..?????
Why don't you just use that phony ass book of yours, proceed to "never miss a ball again", and beat the daylights out of old me ?
You're going down.
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Why don't you guys just play a 10 ahead, loser has to leave AZ forever set??? Stream it for all to sweat.
 
garczar said:
Why don't you guys just play a 10 ahead, loser has to leave AZ forever set??? Stream it for all to sweat.
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Because we will never play. He will never be any better than he is right now, and he's probably smart enough to realize that's not even close to being good enough to compete with me. But if it makes him feel better to dream that someday he'll be good enough, let him dream. It doesn't bother me a bit.
 
BC21 said:
Because we will never play. He will never be any better than he is right now, and he's probably smart enough to realize that's not even close to being good enough to compete with me. But if it makes him feel better to dream that someday he'll be good enough, let him dream. It doesn't bother me a bit.
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I dunno, Brian. He's been slammin' home the money ball and takin' all the cash since learning CTE, donchaknow. I have some funny screen shots of old posts, but I have to be on good behavior as the cult wants me banned permanently and will report me. You know, the kind of guys who go around calling everybody a dog! :rolleyes:
 
Dan White said:
I dunno, Brian. He's been slammin' home the money ball and takin' all the cash since learning CTE, donchaknow. I have some funny screen shots of old posts, but I have to be on good behavior as the cult wants me banned permanently and will report me. You know, the kind of guys who go around calling everybody a dog! :rolleyes:
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You want to call CTE players a derogatory thing, yes i consider cult derogatory, but don't want to be reported. That's real nice.
 
The reason why the quarter system is so useful in snooker is that the balls are respotted on exact spots. It's easy then to memorize angles off that spot, much like spot shots are useful to "memorize" if you play straight pool or one pocket. In 9 ball you have the 9 in the rack area, that, even if it's not an exact spot, gives you a small range you can memorize. Pool also has more pottable rail shots. Rail shots are the easiest to memorize as you have a definitive reference, the rail, to help you work out the angle. When I first started out in pool, I always played the rail shots better than any other, for that reason. Brians book does also give you an excellent tool to work on your problem shots and identify angles.

I have worked some with the quarter system through the years, and I do think it's value is the best when confined to quarters or maybe eights. You use the half or quarter mark only as a known reference to work out the potting angle. Trying to work out even 16ths is quite tough at a distance. Forget about 32ths and 64ths. It's just not happening with normal vision, at least. Sure, If I gave you a picture you could point those marks out, maybe, but our eyes are not perfectly still and focused like that. Yet, we can hit the ball much more accurately than this. Your subconscious is doing the work and the conscious mind only gives it clues with which to work.

I would rather enjoy if someone like Dr. Dave could device an experiment to see just how accurately someone could in fact pick out the quarter ball mark on a ball (not from a picture). Don't know how it would be done, maybe with some kind of laser or CTE like triangulation? Anyhow, I think maybe people are not quite as accurate in this regard as they'd like to think.
 
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