Shame... I never get own that way. Migh be doing a job near the end of the year in Alabama. That would be the closest I've been to Florida since I was really young
GOOD NEWS FOR THE "LURKERS" ABOUT CTE AIMING!
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You know this is absolutely wrong. It’s completely discussed in the other thread about the pre nisl placement of my cue. This is purposefully disingenuous. Dissected and debunked. See other thread “CTE shot to try”
This is an old comment. I am trying to withhold judgment and not assume anything until I can replicate what you are doing. So I will make a temporary, at least, retraction of that comment. You are being up front spending time answering my questions and I should return the favor by not sabotaging the discussion. At the same time, nothing has been dissected and debunked, IMO, but that is for the other thread.
I do have a concern that this will be a one way street, as I said earlier. I believe you are wrong but am putting that aside until I really understand the new CTE. Maybe I will be surprised at what I learn. At the same time I expect that you will also consider logic and reason if such arguments can be made convincingly, and not simply revert back to "I don't know, it just works."
Fair enough. I think your hangup is that you can't believe it can possibly work as described if nobody can explain in scientific detail the connection of the perception process to the pocket. Until someone can do that, you will find reasons why I must be wrong. What I'm hoping is you can reach a point where you can make the process work they way other CTE users are making it work, then make your analysis from there.
My issue is not just that nobody can explain it. It is also that the explanations given thus far do not hold up to scrutiny.
The idea is to find the truth, not figure out how you must be wrong. My concern is that you have already accepted your hypothesis as being true and what you are doing is looking for evidence to support that. Nothing wrong with that as part of an investigation, but this kind of thinking allows you to avoid the other possibilities. This is not the way science works.
I can make it work right now, but to do so I have to move away from the CTE instructions. If I get down on the shot using CTE then look at the ob and think "pocket the ball" then I can make it work by pivoting the cue to where I think it needs to be while shooting.
The only thing significantly 'open' about you is your mouth.
Your brain certainly isn't.
Right on good talk.... Things have changed, well at least I made an attempt at changing them since my comment was made back on May 10th.
Ya bored...?
Put two jellybeans in your left pocket and shoot balls until they start going in. It's the jellybeans that made that happen. Do you deny the jellybean system works? You bought a slick book sold by a very credible instructor. You haven't hit a single shot with the system but you think it works? OK, just get back to us with your review after you put a cue in your hand. Thanks in advance.
lol
Since players that are in the top 10 in the world don't use or need to use CTE to become the best in the world, it obviously isn't needed for anyone in the game of pool. Whether the system helps players align to the shot and give them a preliminary aiming reference, it certainly ISN'T NEEDED at all in the game of pool. That's the big takeaway for me with all of these aiming systems.
If you're someone who enjoys utilizing analytical mind tools when playing pool to figure out where to hit each ball you shoot at, knock yourself out. But that type of system is not needed at all to become one of the best in the world. To each his own. I don't enjoy thinking at that level when playing pool to aim a shot. It seems like wasted effort and I enjoy pool as more of a flowing art form.
And on top of all of that, the fact that throw is in play and how hard you hit the shot changes how much you cut an object ball, IMO you still have to rely upon your subconscious to do the final "aiming" to make each shot with different english applied and a different hardness of the shot. I have no idea why I feel the need to chime in occassionally in these aiming threads, but after reading so many of them, I just need to state the obvious every once in a while.
If you're someone who enjoys utilizing analytical mind tools when playing pool to figure out where to hit each ball you shoot at, knock yourself out. But that type of system is not needed at all to become one of the best in the world. To each his own. I don't enjoy thinking at that level when playing pool to aim a shot. It seems like wasted effort and I enjoy pool as more of a flowing art form.
And on top of all of that, the fact that throw is in play and how hard you hit the shot changes how much you cut an object ball, IMO you still have to rely upon your subconscious to do the final "aiming" to make each shot with different english applied and a different hardness of the shot. I have no idea why I feel the need to chime in occassionally in these aiming threads, but after reading so many of them, I just need to state the obvious every once in a while.
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Curious, should everyone then use shaft aiming like SVB? And arguably the top amateur in the USA uses CTE, should he not be using it? Just simple questions
I'm a minimalist. I think you should use the easiest, most straightforward method that works. I use the tip of my cue to aim with like a gun (along with other mental sighting techniques). But CTE is WAY more complex and involved than what I do to play well. So I would consider it moving backwards to add more complexity to my aiming technique.
That's fine. CTE is really not complicated though once you become proficient with it. And I'll freely admit it takes a while. At this point i just look at the same thing over and over. What could be easier then that, not looking at anything I suppose lol
Once you are down to shoot, you shouldn't be moving your elbow away from the natural stroke.
No way average players can shoot consistently straight by going down then pivoting with that fancy system.
I agree in keeping it simple.
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You were doing pretty good there with your "to each his own"concept….(which is all we CTE users have ever advocated). Then you fell apart in your last paragraph when you started editorializing about "what someone has to do with throw, English, and the same old shucking and jiving that's been yip-yapped about in here for many years.
A player can aim a pool shot with his "you know what" if he wants to do so. We just realize there is a better way and enjoy telling people about it. If they accept it... fine, if they don't that's fine too.
We've just been kicked in the teeth, figuratively speaking, for so long we don't put up with any bullfeathers anymore.
Furthermore, Stan Shuffett is a personal friend of ours, is as honest as he can be, and we're not going to just sit here and allow 'French Poodles' and the like, to beat up on him at will without them getting back a full tilt boogie of what they dish out.
If this angers you, PUH-LEEEEEEZE use the "ignore feature" on me and keep me out of your sight here whenever you visit.
Thank you.
And whatever you use to aim pool shots. I hope you rob everybody you play. (unless it's me)
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Wanna bet on that?
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Does it matter what brand, flavor or color the jelly beans are? Will this work with both jeans and shorts? Can I keep the jelly beans in a plastic bag so they don't get sticky in my pocket? I'm very intrigued about this idea.
I posted this almost a month ago, how did you miss it then, and please don't drag me back into this, I've moved on and maybe it's time you did too.
It's all clearly explained in the book I'm writing. Working title is "No, those are jelly beans in my pocket: But I really am excited to see you. Rack 'em"
Writing a book. Hmmm. When did you start. How long do you think it will take. Is it out yet. Who is the publisher. LMAO Sorry couldn't resist. Questions are for my Sunday morning chuckle only.
With my system, as long as I don't shoot too hard or too soft (or extreme english or throw from really dirty balls) the cue ball hits the exact spot on the object ball that I've chosen to hit and I make the ball. But I figured out quickly that simply shooting really hard throws everything off. I don't care what system you are using to aim, if you fire a ball in, you're going to miss if you aim at the object ball the same way that you do if you shoot soft. Throw from dirty balls and extreme english have similar effects that you need to compensate for and aim at a different spot. Because that's the case, CTE as well as my own system gets you "close", but you still need to make changes on the fly if you shoot really hard or soft, or you're going to miss. I can't make my point more clearly than that. If you don't agree, that's fine.