CF shafts and spin

Been playing with two custom made wooden LD shafts now, for about a yr, still don't have cue ball/obj. ball feel that I had for decades.

I've chosen to get two new maple shafts made, then sell both my wooden LD 5/16 14 pin shafts as soon as I get the two new shafts finished.
It also took me a little time to remember that the 4 ball is no longer PURPLE in some of the newer ball sets.
If anyone wants to purchase my Carmelli Cue custom made shafts, they will be for sale soon.
Only catch, you have to buy both at the same time.
Total $620 and I'll pay the shipping.
PM me if there's interest.

bm

Who is making your new shafts?
 
Every one i've tried so far has been lower than maple, some much lower in deflection. The newer 11.8mm shafts are as close to zero as physically possible. Some people just hate them. They are neither gimmicks or a fad. They are the future.
Is it possible, that as a base building material Carbon Fiber can allow manufacturers more freedom in constructing. Such as a Revo in a full size shaft diameter, while offering lower deflection comparable to the Z?
 
Is it possible, that as a base building material Carbon Fiber can allow manufacturers more freedom in constructing. Such as a Revo in a full size shaft diameter, while offering lower deflection comparable to the Z?

Yes. But not all manufacturers are created equal. One has to know the characteristics of the material and shape of the final product in order to attain the desired outcome. Then cost comes in to play. For example, 120 Ton carbon may be the lightest material for a shaft. But how much will it retail for and will it have the feel that most people want, while giving the lowest possible deflection.
 
Is it possible, that as a base building material Carbon Fiber can allow manufacturers more freedom in constructing. Such as a Revo in a full size shaft diameter, while offering lower deflection comparable to the Z?
What's wrong with the 12.9Revo? I'd call that full size. It already has thinner walls than the 12.4 to get the mass down. Don't know how thin you could go before durability becomes a problem. I don't see Z-type deflection in a 12.75-13mm cf shaft happening. 12.2-12.5 is probably as close as you'll see.
 
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There is a guy (who you've linked to) who appears to be implying that shaft stiffness is a major component of shaft deflection (lots of people say lots of things, including that the earth is flat). Dr. Dave (among a ton of others of the most intelligent among us) says that the shaft stiffness is of relatively little significance to shaft deflection. Which to believe?

Well aside from their track records (one has an unbelievable and substantial record of being right, don't know about the other guy), and their qualifications (one guy has a doctorate in and was a professor of engineering with a strong background in mathematics and is obviously and proven through time exceptionally intelligent, no idea about the other guy's background or intelligence), aside from those things we actually have something much better in this case that can be used to determine which one is right. We are able to do tests for ourselves to find out with significantly more confidence, and Dr. Dave has outlined the ways that it can be objectively tested. Have you done those tests? If so, please report your methods and results. If not, probably time to do that as there is no sense in relying on theory and speculation and intuition and perception when there exists an easy way to find out with significantly more certainty.
 
There is a guy (who you've linked to) who appears to be implying that shaft stiffness is a major component of shaft deflection (lots of people say lots of things, including that the earth is flat). Dr. Dave (among a ton of others of the most intelligent among us) says that the shaft stiffness is of relatively little significance to shaft deflection. Which to believe?

Well aside from their track records (one has an unbelievable and substantial record of being right, don't know about the other guy), and their qualifications (one guy has a doctorate in and was a professor of engineering with a strong background in mathematics and is obviously and proven through time exceptionally intelligent, no idea about the other guy's background or intelligence), aside from those things we actually have something much better in this case that can be used to determine which one is right. We are able to do tests for ourselves to find out with significantly more confidence, and Dr. Dave has outlined the ways that it can be objectively tested. Have you done those tests? If so, please report your methods and results. If not, probably time to do that as there is no sense in relying on theory and speculation and intuition and perception when there exists an easy way to find out with significantly more certainty.
There’s no point trying to reason it out with him. Not when he’s dug into an opinion (that CF has more deflection) given that there is ample resources out there measuring CF vs. wood deflection and verifying through observation that it has less deflection.
 
There's quite a bit of misinformation on that site.

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More misinformation than good information actually, most of it not just being wrong, but ludicrously wrong. To give people an idea of this guy's level of pool knowledge, in his rave review of a Sears type no slate (playing surface is 3/4" thick "laminate felt") pool table made of fiberboard construction, he goes on and on about how sturdy and rugged and solid it is, how great the "wood bumpers" are, and how the table would be an "impressive kit for professionals". His suggestion for best cue available, not best value, but best cue, is a $30 Aska cue. It is clear the guy is a very beginner and hasn't spent much time around pool and doesn't know anything about anything, much less deflection.

He also claims to be a professional pool player and a pool instructor for around 20 years now (name is Tony Logan). Aside from it being glaringly obvious he is at best a rank beginner, I will save anyone else the time of looking up his Fargo, don't bother, he doesn't have one, which isn't surprising since he may not have ever played a game of pool in his life, literally. I am starting to seriously consider that we are just being trolled lol. Good one whammo57, got to give you credit.
 
There's quite a bit of misinformation on that site. ...
It appears to be entirely misinformation right down to the photo of the owner which is a standard public-domain image of a "man in front of a brick wall". The man appears to be about 18 and the owner claims to have been playing pool for 20 years. Now there's dedication.
 
That is one generic looking site, I've seen tons of them for all sorts of products that just search for top sellers on Amazon, rip off the text from the description as a "review" and use a bot to do the site formatting.
I guess such sites make money by all the ads on the site.
 
Are you a flat earther? Asking for a friend...
Max Eberle IS a FE'r and even he knows what's up with lo-deflect. shafts. Some are just luddites that fear/hate anything new or outside what they are familiar with.
 
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