SVB can afford to pick-n-choose his spots. He is a RARE case. Most 'pros', those that derive the lion's share of their $$ from pool, are so fkng broke they will go anywhere and play any format. I hope the ProSeries prospers but i'll never stop saying the format is a joke. MIGHT be ok for a local/regional deal but not if you're touting it as world-class pool. Just my $.02 on this.
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Great! Do you which Facebook page that was?
Yes I would like to read the whole thing too. Could be interesting.
And, like others have said, Shane is in a category by himself. After all, when they put him up against this guy, he has to be good.
I got to play a little in his new room last August. It's really nice. I hope he gets it open soon.
Shane may be the exception and not the rule but at the end of the day, it is the format holding him (and others) back from playing. I'm pretty sure Shane would still like to cash in but all things considered, he feels it's not worth the time and financial investment to participate. I'm sure if given a choice the players that do play in the events would prefer a Race to 9. I appreciate what Predator and CSI are trying to do and certainly appreciate the free stream. It is formatted in a way (on purpose, I'm sure) so it could translate to television. Again, bravo! Perhaps this is the thinking behind the format as well but we had the Camel Pro Tour televised on ESPN and those events were longer races. They really had a good thing going until the players got in the way. Hopefully they grow it to a point where it garners huge sponsorship dollars that will force those not playing to participate. If not, they may have to change to a more popular format to increase participation.
Hate to have to point this out, but the screenshot that was posted was from 10 weeks ago. BEFORE he played the event in Vegas.
One of Corey's posts (attached). He complains about many things. I'm glad Predator posts the matches for free at least.
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I posted this on a different thread but I'll post it again here...
Mark Wilson said in one of his videos pool is not run on money... It is run on passion. We all agree and disagree on many things. But the one thing we all have in common is a passion for the game. Even if I disagree with you, I would love to play a game of pool with each and every one of you.
Mark Wilson said in one of his videos pool is not run on money... It is run on passion. We all agree and disagree on many things. But the one thing we all have in common is a passion for the game. Even if I disagree with you, I would love to play a game of pool with each and every one of you.
Agree with those that say this format doesn't mean we should expect lots of upsets between players of very different skill levels. I also agree in principle that the cream will rise to the top in any format over time in pro pool, for history has proven this time and time again.
It is in matchups of similarly skilled players that I don't like this format. Ten ball is a test of skills in breaking, offensive shot selection, offensive shot execution, defensive shot selection, defensive shot execution, and general tactical play. Why should a match be decided by a test in just one of these six foundational skills (offensive execution)? Two players may have exactly equal skills on balance, but the better ball pocketer becomes the favorite in this format, in which equally matched players will reach a tiebreaker about half the time. That's not as it should be. A race to two tiebreaker (lag for break, alternate break) in ten ball would continue to test all the skills of the players while offering a similarly dramatic finish.
It seems simple enough. A ten ball tourney should be decided by playing ten ball. Spot shot contests are great at carnivals, but not so much at pro events.
It is in matchups of similarly skilled players that I don't like this format. Ten ball is a test of skills in breaking, offensive shot selection, offensive shot execution, defensive shot selection, defensive shot execution, and general tactical play. Why should a match be decided by a test in just one of these six foundational skills (offensive execution)? Two players may have exactly equal skills on balance, but the better ball pocketer becomes the favorite in this format, in which equally matched players will reach a tiebreaker about half the time. That's not as it should be. A race to two tiebreaker (lag for break, alternate break) in ten ball would continue to test all the skills of the players while offering a similarly dramatic finish.
It seems simple enough. A ten ball tourney should be decided by playing ten ball. Spot shot contests are great at carnivals, but not so much at pro events.
I wondered if that post and comments were the ones from months ago.
That could end up being real drama if you had two players alternating BNR for a while during the tie breaker. Once you got to four a piece butts would be sliding toward chair edges.
Maybe if no one gets up by 2 after a certain amount of OT games you could do a spot shot deal but that’s more of old school television thinking. These days there’s no reason to have to cut off something exciting like that.
Maybe if no one gets up by 2 after a certain amount of OT games you could do a spot shot deal but that’s more of old school television thinking. These days there’s no reason to have to cut off something exciting like that.
I think there's room for both this format, and the one you described. Why not? Mix it up a little bit. Something a little different.
Let the people who are putting up the money decide. And we can also have a format with what you described. Somebody just needs to put up the money and they will come.
Unless you (anyone) are willing to put up the time, the effort, the money, and put up with the criticism of what you've done, let the people who are actually putting it together decide that. If no one shows up, they'll change it. But I don't see that being a problem for the time being.
Let's ask ourselves the question of why professional pool took a nosedive to begin with. It's because of the lack of money. And the lack of money is because advertisers stop sponsoring. Advertisers stop sponsoring because no one was interested. And no one was interested because of boredom.
Now we're not talking about the hardcore pool players like on azbilliards. We're talking about Regular Joe Schmo sitting in front of his TV drinking a beer. He's not watching anymore. So Budweiser stopped advertising. Is trying something new, at the very least, worth the effort?
Wouldn't it be great if we could make pool so interesting the even Tampax tampons would want to sponsor it? Boy, I dont know if I would anyone to give me a "spot" In that one!
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LOL. Talk to some privately, they aren't going to come out and say it publicly, unless they're Doucheaine and you saw what happened with him... Burning bridges and all...
Jaden
My mistake. His opinion was formed after the first event had been held in AZ July 28-31. To Shane's credit, he gave it a shot and apparently realized it wasn't for him.
You do realize that if it was in one of those posts that CSI or the owner of the page CAN delete it and it would be in their best interest to do so.
Jaden
It's the start of a good idea, with a few tweaks it could be awesome.
So think of this format. 3 races to 5. First set lag for break, second set other player breaks first, winner break first two sets. If third set needs to be played, lag again, alternate break, win by 2 games.
I think that THAT could be the ultimate format.
Match doesn't have to be long, gives both players opportunities at the table, first two sets allows for each player to run out the set.
Imagine a match where both players bnr their starting set, then they trade racks till someone finally breaks dry... Perfect play the whole way through.
Jaden
That could work but I still prefer a winner break long race. It seemed to work pretty good at the US Open.
What would be wrong with the US amateur type format? Where the players are playing both 8-ball and 9-ball?