Maybe somebody with a book will tell me if the word "offset" is still being used.
Unable to See Center Ball
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What would be your guess lmao
They need to make a clear cue ball, like this, with a colored spot int the center, for those that can’t find center ball. 
Wow - an actual Q Ball. I thought that was a conspiracy theory.They need to make a clear cue ball, like this, with a colored spot int the center, for those that can’t find center ball.
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The perceived center of the cue ball changes with your eye position. Stan teaches this explicitly in his CTE teaching. Line up your right eye right down the cue with the cue touching center cue ball. The one singe eye lines that up perfectly (shut out the other eye). Holding that position, shift both eyes to the left or right edge of the cue ball. You will notice that the cue is no longer in the center of the cue ball as perceived by both eyes. You have defined a new center in the cue ball just by shifting your eyes. This is also called "stepping the cue ball" and defines the new center of the cue ball to pocket the ball.
Bottom line is that the center is determined by your vision. There is only one center per vision perspective. And the single eye can line that up every time. Much harder using both eyes together to find it. At least that's how it is with me.
Bottom line is that the center is determined by your vision. There is only one center per vision perspective. And the single eye can line that up every time. Much harder using both eyes together to find it. At least that's how it is with me.
Parallax is nothing new and it certainly is not a magic wand that puts you on the correct shot line. Stan showed how this shift of the eyes amounts to about a quarter inch over about two feet. I did the math once and the eye shift, or "stepping," amounts to about a half a degree change between looking at center ball and looking at the edge and imagining the new center line. If you are averting your eyes a half ball every time (center to edge of the cue ball) then this will cause the same half degree shift in perception. That won't cause balls to be pocketed no matter where they are.
Look, I don't want to burst your bubble but the whole thing is speculative at best. Stan spends a lot of time talking about stepping the cue ball but he never actually says how it works. I don't believe Stan is a con man but I do believe he is fooling himself. He uses con man tactics. For instance, he describes stepping in such detail and with such conviction yet he never says how the stepping puts you on the shot line. A new person learning this will not know how this works and will assume they missed something because of the intensity of the instruction, the website, a huge book, lots of followers, a neat logo.... so it has to work, right? Nevermind how.
Stan has described stepping in great detail. New year and you still have no clue what you are talking about.
You know, if you and PJ ever stop and actually take the time to do what stan explains, the way he explains it you will find nothing less than the fact that it works. So many of your responses scream that you clearly have no understanding at all about his method, yet daily you declare that it cannot work. It can for the ones who do it as taught, it cannot for those who will not.
I've done what Stan explains for a long time now. In fact, I did what Hal explained to me 20 years ago before Stan even knew what CTE was. It doesn't work for me and for countless others over the years. The one common thread about all of Stan's various incarnations of CTE is that none of them actually explain why it "works." Everything he says is merely step by step instruction, not explanation. Logic says if you provide instructions for perceptions that differ significantly from each other, yet it still "works" that should be all you need to understand that it is the player himself that makes it work.
Yours screams that you have no understanding of our responses. I’ve never seen a CTE user who did.
This is the usual comment showing lack of understanding. It obviously “works” for you - your (Stan’s) “explanations” of how it works are nonsensical (and largely incomprehensible). It’s a “reference” system like many others - its unusual features are that it’s overcomplicated by Stan and misunderstood by it’s users.
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So let me get this straight. In your opinion thousands of new and experienced users, who by the way are having great success, totally misunderstand CTE but you the one that has never bothered to learn CTE is the one we should listen to because low and behold you actually understand CTE completely. What a crock of shit PJ. That goes for the person above you whose posts are totally idiotic. Not that I’m actually calling Dan an idiot it’s just that he posts like one concerning CTE.
If this has been mentioned, excuse me.
Have you had your eyes checked by an Ophthalmologist lately? Putting your equipment into order is Step One.
Jeff Livingston
The critiques of CTE seem to be equally misunderstood, although at times that seems like a willing misunderstanding.
Yes, that's about it. The mind is a powerful thing. Scientists have grappled for centuries with how to eliminate bias from their experiments, particularly in the social sciences and studies involving human activity. Stan has no understanding of how to do an experiment and it shows. His students also don't seem to understand, hence PJ's comment.
The problem isn't with CTE's critics. It is with the supporter's inability to reason and come to rational conclusions. Anyone who tries seems to get short circuited back into "well it works for me and that's all I care about."
cookie man I think your an OK guy so you can call me an idiot if you want to. It's only pool.
Never called you an idiot, I just said you post like one. I found out that if you word it like that the mods don’t care. The rest of your post was deleted cause it’s just your same old bullshit that has no relevance in the discussioncookie man I think your an OK guy so you can call me an idiot if you want to. It's only pool.
My bad. I wasn't implying that you called me an idiot although I see that's how it comes across.
Other than that, my same old BS would go away if there were an actual answer to a reasonable question other than all the histrionics we get here. How about answering this with a straight answer: How does stepping put you on the shot line? Don't tell me "how" to step the cue ball. Tell me why it matters a damn.
It matters because it’s a part of the instructions that make CTE what it is. Success with things comes from completing all of the steps in the instructions. Do you think CTE can be performed correctly without stepping?
Please be real though, the bullshit from your side will never go away.
Are you saying all the instructions for all the years before "stepping" came along weren't correct?
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Nope, just saying the final version that actually describes stepping is amazing. Stepping in fact, although that is not what HH called it, is what led to CTE when he discovered it. If you know the barn story then you know what I’m talking about
Notice you didn’t answer my question though lol. Nothing unusual about that
True, stepping was occurring way back in Stans 1st explanations with the 1/2 tip pivot, as well as the inside and outside sweeps in pro one and are key to making CTE work, otherwise it would just be another fractional ball aiming method. I have a video online I did like 7 years ago shooting Centenial balls on a 10 foot snooker table with 3 3/8" pockets with snooker bends on them, and it's quite obvious I was using the 1/2 tip pivot on several of the shots. The new method in the book is awkward to me at this point so I generally use Pro One, because I'm used to it, though I can't say any of the 4 methods I know of are any better or worse than the other. I've tried them all and they all have worked for me.
